SirSmUgly Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Why the Ascension has the little guy throwing a shitty back elbow and the big guy doing the leg sweep when the big guy should obviously be doing a lariat and the little guy should be doing the leg sweep is beyond me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Look, if you throw away whatever hatred you have for Roman, we had this: 1) The Final Four was The Corporate Oldhead Goons vs. The Remnants of The Shield. (And the breakup of The Shield was more-or-less the story from a little after last WrestleMania). The powerhouse of The Shield beat The Corporation, just like he beat so many others in his short tenure. To get to this: 2) Now to become the man, he has to beat the man his legendary uncle couldn't topple at the biggest stage of them all. Narratively, there's nothing wrong with that. It's actually a really well-built, well thought-out story arc that's been in the works for a really long time. I don't see the problem in that. At all. The problem is that everyone hates Reigns. And that's fine. He got booed out of the building. He's "not ready" for his push. His uncle wasn't ready for his push, either, and ended up as the biggest star in wrestling history. I'm not saying Roman's on that trajectory, but he's one Superman punch to his uncle or -- even better -- one spear to Daniel Bryan away from being the biggest heel in years. The thing is for me that all these things you point out are there in that they are all true statements about these guys, and you can meld them into a narrative if you try. But I don't think that they are actually "there" in the sense that the story they actually are telling does not flow from these things and doesn't really do much to remind us of them. Like, they mentioned the Shield when Roman and Dean were in there. But it was a bit of historical trivia. There is no chemistry left for real between them, nor tension, nor any reason to call that part of a narrative. Their characters have been reduced to "pretty guy who is cool" and "Weird guy who dumps mustard on people and loses." Anything else has to be projected into it by the viewer with a lot of effort and patience. That's usually not a good recipe for holding an audience. And the family vengeance on Brock thing. All true. But it's...well is there something less visible and real that "subtext"? Supersubcutaneous text? You can enjoy that story. But it's not really "there" for anyone else and they aren't going to put one bit of thought or effort into making it real. Winner winner chicken dinner. This my favorite piranesi post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Fuck it, arguing over the Samoan family tree is better than talking about that Rumble match. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Angel Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Goddamn. I really have to learn to stop throwing my money away. Fuck that rumble. Fuck this company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the record, Rock isn't actually related to Reigns. That blood brother shit doesn't count. Do you even genetics? you tell Samoans who they can and can't consider relatives. Good luck! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfaloaf Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 So what's going to be main event of the next ppv if brocks advertised. Seth cashes in on that or mania?IMO, this is how it plays out--A.) Reigns beats Lesnar at WM B.) Rollins cashes in on Raw against a battle-scarred Reigns and wins the belt C.) Reigns chases after Rollins until SummerSlam. Possibility of dual turns is strong. So what's the next ppv rock n reigns v show n kane,setting up cena rusev, then other stuff with ambrose,Bryan,wyatt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Also I spent half the show lifting my arms up quickly so I could find myself on the hard camera on the tron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila The Hut Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 There was one point in my Twitter feed saying that perhaps Natalya should have a stable modeled after Jem & the Holograms https://twitter.com/prowresonly/status/559527120305545218 I was thinking this stable should ben Nattie, Paige, Alicia Fox, and Becky Lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranesi Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For all of WWE's faults, the people in charge aren't dumb or deaf. It's clear they knew they would get a reaction like this which is why they had Bryan eliminated early, in a vain hope that they could win the crowd back as the rumble went along. It failed, just like anyone with half a brain could have guessed. I was thinking that, but then the people they had come in right after he was thrown out were so lame, it was like guaranteed to keep the crowd fuming with nothing th distract them. Wasn't it, like Big E. right arfter and then they had a chance with Mzidow, but they kind of fucked that up real quick. And then Swags???? People were just stewing by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the record, Rock isn't actually related to Reigns. That blood brother shit doesn't count. Do you even genetics? Uhm, yes they are. They're cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 There's a rumor going around on Twitter and Reddit that the fans at the arena are blocking the talents' cars from leaving the arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 My question is this: if you know this will be the reaction, why not just put Bryan in the title match and make it a four way? You can still have him jump through the same hoops and he doesn't have to be involved in the finish at all. If they had done that, I actually think the Rumble would have gone over pretty well. As it stands, it comes across as completely tone deaf. no. Because they would have spent the entire Rumble pouting if Bryan didn't win the Title. You'd need to put the Rumble on first in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Incidentally, why is Nattie a face when she wrestles but a de facto heel when she's with Kiddsaro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 If true, those fans are idiots even by Philly standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHFP Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Look, if you throw away whatever hatred you have for Roman, we had this: 1) The Final Four was The Corporate Oldhead Goons vs. The Remnants of The Shield. (And the breakup of The Shield was more-or-less the story from a little after last WrestleMania). The powerhouse of The Shield beat The Corporation, just like he beat so many others in his short tenure. To get to this: 2) Now to become the man, he has to beat the man his legendary uncle couldn't topple at the biggest stage of them all. Narratively, there's nothing wrong with that. It's actually a really well-built, well thought-out story arc that's been in the works for a really long time. I don't see the problem in that. At all. The problem is that everyone hates Reigns. And that's fine. He got booed out of the building. He's "not ready" for his push. His uncle wasn't ready for his push, either, and ended up as the biggest star in wrestling history. I'm not saying Roman's on that trajectory, but he's one Superman punch to his uncle or -- even better -- one spear to Daniel Bryan away from being the biggest heel in years. 1. The ring has been the most important part of pro wrestling for over a century. 2. Vince McMahon has hated wrestling fans ever since buying the WWF 35 years ago. This has been heavily established both on WWE TV and outside interviews. 3. So when Vince McMahon dropped his pants and literally took a shit in the middle of the ring at Wrestlemania 31, it was the culmination of 35 years of booking, combining both storyline and shoot elements and included over 100 years of history. Narratively, there's nothing wrong with that. It's actually a really well-built, well thought-out story arc that's been in the works for a really long time. I don't see the problem in that. At all. - Greggulator in the future 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Surprised we didn't get any "deflated balls" jokes from The Rock on the post show. I guess there's always Raw for that to happen, presumably after the roster gets snowed in and he's one of five to make it on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfaloaf Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 There's a rumor going around on Twitter and Reddit that the fans at the arena are blocking the talents' cars from leaving the arena. Didn't jericho deck someone for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 There's a rumor going around on Twitter and Reddit that the fans at the arena are blocking the talents' cars from leaving the arena.Didn't jericho deck someone for that? Yeah, it was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 The page on the Network site to cancel your subscription has crashed. And this is the consequences of running on a company plan that is now completely reliant on the fanbase's interest in the promotion, and then saying "Na, fuck it, we know better then them" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_MJ_ Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the record, Ken Shamrock was not related to Ryan Shamrock. They just happen to have the same last name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the record, Rock isn't actually related to Reigns. That blood brother shit doesn't count. Do you even genetics? Uhm, yes they are. They're cousins. Not in the genetic sense. Peter Maivia was blood brothers with Amituanai Anoa'i. That's the only connection the two families have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 finally, the promised rioting. Hopefully the WWE Superstars put their cars in the FAST LANNNNNNNNNNNE, live on the WWE Network, February 22nd in Memphis! I remember something happening in Memphis last March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the record, Ken Shamrock was not related to Ryan Shamrock. They just happen to have the same last name. also not related to Frank Shamrock, Bob Shamrock or Shane Shamrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J. Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I for one, am happy they're pushing someone not named Batista/Cena/Orton. This is the WWE, a company that historically has pushed talent down our throat. Reigns has been in the WWE for a year and a half. Let's see how next couple of weeks leading up till 'Mania go before we write this guy off as a bust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila The Hut Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Does anybody else have the feeling that last year's Rumble match was better than this year's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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