Uncle Coaster Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Not sure what the plan was, but sure sounded like they'd be coming in. Perhaps a deal was in the works or this was Vince trying to force Fritz's hand. Not sure. Either way, here is the update... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8l6en_wwf-update-von-erich-family_sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The VEs were also featured in one of the first couple of Victory magazines, which replaced the color programs and later morphed into the WWF/E magazine. I figured that their appearance was akin to the usage of the territory big guns on local house shows, but maybe Mr. McMahon saw something more in them? - RAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 The VEs were also featured in one of the first couple of Victory magazines, which replaced the color programs and later morphed into the WWF/E magazine. I figured that their appearance was akin to the usage of the territory big guns on local house shows, but maybe Mr. McMahon saw something more in them? - RAF Vince always played nice with Fritz, he even let Ricky Steamboat work one of the Cotton Bowl shows. The story I always heard was that Vince wanted some sorta working relationship with World Class but Fritz never pulled the trigger on it. Maybe he was leery after what happened when Vince "bought" Stampede from Stu Hart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Of course Hogan would not do what's good for business, especially 20 years ago. Hell, he is still indulging his ego in TNA. Also, Bret Hart's career survived just fine without that. However, the business would have clearly been better for Hulk putting Bret over and passing the torch to the new star of his generation. When has Hogan done anything that was purely for the good of business? I'm really drawing a blank here and I'm sure it's something obvious but....either he got lucky (being vinces guy) or he politicized into situations where it only looks like what he did was best for business (nwo). He dropped belts to go promote Hogan the brand, he made no one in his career, and was in some way responsible for the demise of two wrestling organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebreaker Chip Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'unno I guess he made Goldberg, but you could argue he was also then involved in backstage stuff that permanently tarnished Goldberg in WCW later on Speaking of Hogan, I assume when he and Warrior did the respect embrace at WM VI they were actually muttering all sorts of insults at each other - are there any other good examples of moving post-match respect handshake situations where both guys actually legit hated each other's guts but the fans at the time bought it as sincere? (I guess a lot of them are probably Hogan) There would probably have been a classic one at WM12 if Shawn hadn't had Hebner tell Hart to just leave; still kind of suspect the 2010 reconciliation stuff between Shawn and Bret still had at least a bit of needle to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam O'Rourke Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Yeah, didn't Hogan originally lose to Goldie on the provision he be the first to beat him in the end? Obviously never turned out that way, but it's fairly typical Hogan behaviour - only give something with the intent of getting it back, or taking something bigger in the end, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Think this fits in here but if not delete or move please. Which current WWE booking being so heavy on 50/50 booking for fueds...could the WWE actually get over a Dreamer/Raven style fued where one guy can't beat another guy for YEARS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Of course not. Aside from 50/50 booking making that impossible, WWE can't hold off on a hot angle for a few months, let alone years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 They just did. It just required one guy to leave for nearly a decade and the other to be a semi retired part timer by the time the first one got back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 On the 1996 Slammy Awards (stay with me), the Best Threads award was presented by Mr TV Trivia & Fatale. Who were these people??? I've never seen it but didn't they do a TV Trivia segment with Billionaire Ted? Maybe it was the guy from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 They just did. It just required one guy to leave for nearly a decade and the other to be a semi retired part timer by the time the first one got back. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Must... resist... making... Jim Neidhart joke.... Anyway, he's talking about Brock and Taker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Wasn't Lesnar due to be fed to Taker before he left in 04? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Like I said, it just took one guy leaving for nearly a decade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Swagger/Rusev is probably the closest to a Dreamer/Raven-type feud anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buy Me a Burrito Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Think this fits in here but if not delete or move please. Which current WWE booking being so heavy on 50/50 booking for fueds...could the WWE actually get over a Dreamer/Raven style fued where one guy can't beat another guy for YEARS? Zany/Owens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarChief EagleDemon Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Watching old USWA I recorded on WJYS (yes) back in the day. I'm sure anyone who's watched any Memphis has heard the announcement at the very end of the show about the announcers being paid for by the promotion and not the TV station. Anyone know the reason why they had to say that? It may be something about TV rules and regulations, of which I know very little about.. Or could it be to enhance the "sports" presentation possibly? In a similar vein, I vaguely remember Gorilla Monsoon doing the "strictly prohibited" spiel about the imposition of a charge, like they did during baseball games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Dunno about in the US but in the UK most, if not all, sports announcers work for the station, not the league. I guess it was to prevent bringing the station into disrepute by implying that their trusted announcers pretending wrestling was real. But I know some wrestling announcers in the US did work for the station and not the promotion. Ed Whalen for one. I think Lance Russell might be a borderline case as I think he was on the payroll both at WMC as a programming director and for the Jarretts as a wrestling announcer. I know here in Britain Kent Walton worked for LWT or whichever ITV station was responsible for World of Sport, not Joint Promotions, which is why he announced for All-Star when they got a share of the TV slot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Dunno about in the US but in the UK most, if not all, sports announcers work for the station, not the league. I guess it was to prevent bringing the station into disrepute by implying that their trusted announcers pretending wrestling was real. But I know some wrestling announcers in the US did work for the station and not the promotion. Ed Whalen for one. I think Lance Russell might be a borderline case as I think he was on the payroll both at WMC as a programming director and for the Jarretts as a wrestling announcer. I know here in Britain Kent Walton worked for LWT or whichever ITV station was responsible for World of Sport, not Joint Promotions, which is why he announced for All-Star when they got a share of the TV slot. All sports announcers in the US work for the station. I can't think of one instance where the league directly employs announcers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 What about games on the NFL network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 my guess would be that its a "the views expressed are of the individual and do not represent the station" kinda deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Dunno about in the US but in the UK most, if not all, sports announcers work for the station, not the league. I guess it was to prevent bringing the station into disrepute by implying that their trusted announcers pretending wrestling was real. But I know some wrestling announcers in the US did work for the station and not the promotion. Ed Whalen for one. I think Lance Russell might be a borderline case as I think he was on the payroll both at WMC as a programming director and for the Jarretts as a wrestling announcer. I know here in Britain Kent Walton worked for LWT or whichever ITV station was responsible for World of Sport, not Joint Promotions, which is why he announced for All-Star when they got a share of the TV slot. All sports announcers in the US work for the station. I can't think of one instance where the league directly employs announcers. UFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Dunno about in the US but in the UK most, if not all, sports announcers work for the station, not the league. I guess it was to prevent bringing the station into disrepute by implying that their trusted announcers pretending wrestling was real. But I know some wrestling announcers in the US did work for the station and not the promotion. Ed Whalen for one. I think Lance Russell might be a borderline case as I think he was on the payroll both at WMC as a programming director and for the Jarretts as a wrestling announcer. I know here in Britain Kent Walton worked for LWT or whichever ITV station was responsible for World of Sport, not Joint Promotions, which is why he announced for All-Star when they got a share of the TV slot. All sports announcers in the US work for the station. I can't think of one instance where the league directly employs announcers. UFC? UFC seems to run on a pro wrestling model in a lot of ways. That is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Not sure this goes here, but was George "The Animal" Steele any good at any point? All I can recall of him was him eating turnbuckles with a green tongue in the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) I suppose that depends how you define "any good." He worked as an amateur wrestling coach so obviously he knew how to wrestle, but like Gorilla Monsoon his character just didn't call for that. He mainly worked for the WW(W)F, which wasn't exactly known for workrate, so he was fine for that but I suspect he wouldn't have done nearly as well in, say, Mid-Atlantic. (Not for any length of time, anyway.) ETA: He did work an All Japan tour in 1974, so I'm guessing he could go when he had to. Edited September 4, 2015 by cool arrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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