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Stefanie Sparkleface

Stefanie Sparkleface

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13 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

We've got Dish; Max isn't even an option on here. We did subscribe to a Cinemax package once upon a time but now it isn't even showing up in the full, uncut channel guide.

I just checked. If you have HBO through Dish, you should be able to connect your Dish credentials and sign into Max. Go to max.com, click sign in, then choose Connect Your Provider. Dish is third on the left.

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Johnny Sorrow

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2 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said:

It’s gonna suck when the payoff to this is Curt finding out that Many Saints is mid. 

I was gonna just flat out say it stinks, but as a completist.....

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SirSmUgly

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On 1/23/2024 at 4:13 PM, Raziel said:

It may not be a boom, but we are indeed likely in the hottest Era of pro-wrestling since the Monday Night War, and by far the most accessible. 

I can believe that, certainly. 

On 1/23/2024 at 4:18 PM, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

But I would say that if everything else on TV is drowning but TV products like pro wrestling are getting Big Four sports level rights fees and their gates are near or at record levels? We're probably in a boom.

I think this is a fair argument, though I tend to think that live sports and sports-adjacent programming is still going through a cost-inflation period and that the bubble is going to pop for everyone but the NFL, English Premier League, and maybe the NBA. Netflix was wise to leave themselves an out in five years.

 

On 1/23/2024 at 5:18 PM, Matt D said:

I was going on the crazy sell outs everywhere.

I'm always worried to talk about sellouts because, uh, people have lots of opinions about attendance numbers, their trustworthiness, and what they might mean. I will say this: If you're going by big shows in arenas, I can see this being the crux of a boom argument, absolutely. If you're talking about week-to-week attendance at your typical weekly shows, then I wouldn't say we're in a boom period when looking at that landscape. 

 

Matt D

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2 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:

I'm always worried to talk about sellouts because, uh, people have lots of opinions about attendance numbers, their trustworthiness, and what they might mean. I will say this: If you're going by big shows in arenas, I can see this being the crux of a boom argument, absolutely. If you're talking about week-to-week attendance at your typical weekly shows, then I wouldn't say we're in a boom period when looking at that landscape. 

I’m not going to wrestletix but house shows seem to have been booming in Nov/Dec. Lots of shows with over 10k for just a house show.

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Johnny Sorrow

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1 hour ago, Matt D said:

I’m not going to wrestletix but house shows seem to have been booming in Nov/Dec. Lots of shows with over 10k for just a house show.

The house show market for WWE definitely has been booming for awhile now. Just based on Colorado,  I can tell you that 6 years ago they had half full houses at smaller arenas and now they're almost filling the Ball arena. 

SirSmUgly

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I think probably what's happening is that WWE is in a boom period, not pro wrestling. Actually, yeah, this is just a weird period. You have big shows selling out and even TNA packed 'em in for a recent PPV at a higher amount than ever before, but WWE's the only company doing consistent big business at their weekly and house shows, too. It seems like only WWE has all the things lined up that would make you argue that they're in a boom. 

Matt D

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18 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:

I think probably what's happening is that WWE is in a boom period, not pro wrestling. Actually, yeah, this is just a weird period. You have big shows selling out and even TNA packed 'em in for a recent PPV at a higher amount than ever before, but WWE's the only company doing consistent big business at their weekly and house shows, too. It seems like only WWE has all the things lined up that would make you argue that they're in a boom. 

Oh yeah, just WWE, though I’d be interested at looking at how indies were doing. 

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Dolfan in NYC

Dolfan in NYC

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*BUMP*

Raw is Netflix will debut on January 6th. 

(There's a joke there but I refuse to make it.) 

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tbarrie

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Wait, people use Netflix to watch less than a whole show? I thought Netflix was for watching a dozen episodes of something in a single sitting.

EVA

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On 9/10/2024 at 4:42 PM, tbarrie said:

Wait, people use Netflix to watch less than a whole show? I thought Netflix was for watching a dozen episodes of something in a single sitting.

Most people don’t even “watch” Netflix shows, so much as have them running in the background while they they do something else. It’s a very passive viewing experience, and in fact many of their newer shows are specifically produced with that dynamic in mind.

And that’s something that really interests me about the Raw/Netflix deal moving forward—how much of the Netflix audience is actually interested in actively tuning into a live sports/entertainment show every week? And how does that number relate to the amount of money Netflix is paying WWE for it? Netflix has a huge subscriber base, but is it a live wresting audience? That is unclear, and it’ll be interesting to see how that develops (as much as we can, considering how difficult it is to get real viewing numbers out of Netflix).

 

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Matt D

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28 minutes ago, EVA said:

Most people don’t even “watch” Netflix shows, so much as have them running in the background while they they do something else. It’s a very passive viewing experience, and in fact many of their newer shows are specifically produced with that dynamic in mind.

That’s a great way to watch old Memphis.

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blitzkrieg

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2 hours ago, EVA said:

And that’s something that really interests me about the Raw/Netflix deal moving forward—how much of the Netflix audience is actually interested in actively tuning into a live sports/entertainment show every week? And how does that number relate to the amount of money Netflix is paying WWE for it? Netflix has a huge subscriber base, but is it a live wresting audience? That is unclear, and it’ll be interesting to see how that develops (as much as we can, considering how difficult it is to get real viewing numbers out of Netflix).

 

I don't think it's about making Netflix viewers into live wrestling viewers, it's making sure that live wrestling viewers are subscribed to Netflix. You have 52 weeks of content which combats churn and then you have 3 hours of live programming that they can sell ads during. (In addition to getting PLEs and the other shows in other markets than the US.) 

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Log

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I hadn't really thought about it, but it'll be interesting to see if they deviate from the live tv model of segment/commercial/segment/commercial/etc.

 

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Ziggy

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2 hours ago, blitzkrieg said:

I don't think it's about making Netflix viewers into live wrestling viewers, it's making sure that live wrestling viewers are subscribed to Netflix. You have 52 weeks of content which combats churn and then you have 3 hours of live programming that they can sell ads during. (In addition to getting PLEs and the other shows in other markets than the US.) 

I see myself viewing it like when I watched NWA Powerr before the pandemic. I would binge watch several weeks of television a week or two before the PPV.  They obviously want to get people to watch every week live but I don’t see people watching it live the same way as when it’s on tv. They are probably going to stop the commercials in between matches. They should but then it would be like the PLEs with the commercials and ads running that’s longer than the matches 

zendragon

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5 hours ago, EVA said:

Most people don’t even “watch” Netflix shows, so much as have them running in the background while they they do something else. It’s a very passive viewing experience, and in fact many of their newer shows are specifically produced with that dynamic in mind.

And that’s something that really interests me about the Raw/Netflix deal moving forward—how much of the Netflix audience is actually interested in actively tuning into a live sports/entertainment show every week? And how does that number relate to the amount of money Netflix is paying WWE for it? Netflix has a huge subscriber base, but is it a live wresting audience? That is unclear, and it’ll be interesting to see how that develops (as much as we can, considering how difficult it is to get real viewing numbers out of Netflix).

 

I imagine Lucha Underground was a bit of a trial run

blitzkrieg

blitzkrieg

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34 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

They obviously want to get people to watch every week live but I don’t see people watching it live the same way as when it’s on tv.

I can't really see any reason that people that have Netflix and watch Raw currently live on a weekly basis are going stop doing that just because it's on Netflix instead of USA. 

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