BrianS81177 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Where is the Gambler episode of TIJ available? I still haven't seen it on Pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Bobby Heenan's daughter did her first interview ever on Brian Solomon's podcast (Shut Up and Wrestle) and I'm 2/3rds through and it's very good. So far the main things I've learned are... Heenan produced interviews during WWF tapings (never knew that) Heenan taught Flair the Flair Flip which Ray Stevens had taught him (I mean, maybe?) Stevens lived the last ten years of his life with the Heenan family Bockwinkel worse ascots everywhere, everywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Wrestler math is what it is but I was surprised that his daughter was that young because I remembered him mentioning his daughter going to the University of Alabama as a reason why he joined WCW and that math doesn’t totally add up with him joining in 1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Matt D said: Bockwinkel worse ascots everywhere, everywhere. Freudian slip (knot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 13 hours ago, BrianS81177 said: Where is the Gambler episode of TIJ available? I still haven't seen it on Pandora https://podbay.fm/p/talk-is-jericho/e/1688539500 9 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: Wrestler math is what it is but I was surprised that his daughter was that young because I remembered him mentioning his daughter going to the University of Alabama as a reason why he joined WCW and that math doesn’t totally add up with him joining in 1994 did he only have the one daughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, twiztor said: did he only have the one daughter? Wikipedia says Heenan was married in 1978 and mentions only one daughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I always thought his reason was WWF wasn't doing so hot in 1993, and WCW seem the more attractive place to be seeing as they got brought in Ventura and I believe Okerlund came in right before Heenan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I also remember the concept of getting health insurance in WCW as drawing Heenan in But if Heenan could decline to say publicly why exactly he had heat with specific guys, he might decline to mention certain details about other things because he didn’t want to or whatever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Matt D said: Heenan taught Flair the Flair Flip which Ray Stevens had taught him (I mean, maybe?) I guess its conceivable since they would have both been in the AWA in 73/74, but Stevens would have also been there and could have taught him as well. Is there any footage of Flair in the AWA so we could get a sense of when he started doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 There's film of him in the barn training. I can't recall seeing g video off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Bobby Heenan wouldn't be the first father to make an extraordinary claim or two to his daughter either. There's some people in the business who only say as much as they want to say. That's why every Andre the Giant biography sorta covered the same ground until the book that came out a few years ago. I guess the existence of a Bobby Heenan book by Bobby covers a certain amount of ground that would have been covered by a biography about Bobby Heenan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 The Bobby book is a must-read if you haven't peeped it yet btw. Man, did he hate Schiavone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, elizium said: I guess its conceivable since they would have both been in the AWA in 73/74, but Stevens would have also been there and could have taught him as well. Is there any footage of Flair in the AWA so we could get a sense of when he started doing it? There’s this early ‘74 match against Chris Taylor; no corner flip but he does like taking turnbuckles: And then in 1976 Mid-Atlantic there’s a corner flip: Edited August 4, 2023 by Hamhock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I'm gonna imagine the Ray Stevens/Ric Flair singles matches from 1979 to 1981 being a race to see which guy does the corner bump first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I was listening to the now Infamous Lufisto interview and it led me to Chris Hero on Ace Steels podcast. I can listen to them talk about the Blood Bloods training camp for hours. It was really to listen them talk about the up their come up on the indies. I'm a fan of Punk but Ace Steels can work circles around him in my opinion. It was cool to hear both he a Hero's insight into coaching todays talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: Bobby Heenan wouldn't be the first father to make an extraordinary claim or two to his daughter either. There's some people in the business who only say as much as they want to say. That's why every Andre the Giant biography sorta covered the same ground until the book that came out a few years ago. I guess the existence of a Bobby Heenan book by Bobby covers a certain amount of ground that would have been covered by a biography about Bobby Heenan I found Bobby Heenans book disappointing and felt heavily ghost written Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) Really? I felt the exact opposite. That thing reads in Heenan's voice to me. EDIT: Note, I'm talking about Bobby the Brain: Wrestling's Bad Boy Tells All, and not the Chair Shots book which I haven't read. Edited August 4, 2023 by Curt McGirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I seem to remember the Andre in Japan stories being in Hogans book and the whole thing had an “as told too” feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 AR Fox was an absolute delight on Talk is Jericho. Highly recommend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 3:58 PM, Curt McGirt said: The Bobby book is a must-read if you haven't peeped it yet btw. Man, did he hate Schiavone. IIRC when Tony went on JR's old podcast (before they both hooked up with Conrad), Tony said something to the effect that he deeply regrets not calling Heenan after WCW folded. Tony basically shut himself away from wrestling and anyone who had anything to do with it after his brief TNA appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 He probably wouldn't have gotten a good reception. Bobby and Tenay used to get together and make fun of him over drinks. That whole section in the book about WCW is full of venom towards Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 There was a period when Tony would block anyone on twitter who mentioned wrestling to him. Even if it was something complimentary like "you were my favourite announcer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 I guess those paydays from Conrad and then TK changed his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, odessasteps said: I guess those paydays from Conrad and then TK changed his mind. That's kind of half true. He did the podcast to pay for his daughter's wedding, then realized he was actually more missed than he thought he was, if I remember the reasoning correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 To me, Schiavone is someone who is just unintentionally bad at maintaining friendships, and Heenan from all accounts was someone who cherished his friends and expected the same consideration in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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