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  1. Personally, I don’t think things in AEW are as dire as some folks here make them out to be. I do, however, think things have gone down some as far as the booking. We’re still getting amazing matches week in and week out, but the stories aren’t there like they used to be. That said, I think TK’s true test as to whether or not he’s a great booker will be how he handles the next few months.
    7 points
  2. That is awesome. I had no idea that was him. I got to meet Bret's other Japanese teacher at an Osaka Pro show years ago, shortly before he passed away. Mr. Hito loved pro wrestling so much. It was an honour to be introduced to him.
    7 points
  3. Just my take on it, but I think it has less to do with the product / lack of a main event / cooling off than it does with them just absolutely burning the Chicago market to the ground. They had what 16k for a PPV there just 2 months ago? Now they are running 3 live events in a week there? Plus they've had at least one other live TV there this year. It's too much in too short of a period. The PPVs always deliver, but who knows what you're getting for a live Rampage ya know. 4 events in 2 months all with very high ticket prices, Forbidden Door especially, is just a bad call. I get the desire to have destination PPVs that are in the same city annually. But Forbidden Door being in The United Center should have caused a pivot. They should have went with Toronto for this weekend.
    6 points
  4. Don't think anybody has ever criticized the consistency of the in-ring quality. Most of us who are critical consistently point to it as a reason to stick around. No matter the bad decisions Khan makes, he is still letting some of the best wrestlers on the planet do their thing in an environment conducive to great wrestling.
    5 points
  5. I wasn't really feeling Rampage after not enjoying Dynamite much at all this week but had to watch Dustin/Claudio. How can I put this... Dustin is so good at fucking up in matches that I'm really not sure if he does it on purpose or not. When he hit his head on the bottom rope early on I didn't know if it was a mistake and either that's really high level work because he totally fooled me or I am a dummy for not seeing that as a total botch. Maybe he is just legit getting old. It's strange to watch in real time after coming into guys that are beat down and still cagey like Tenryu or Fujiwara in their old age without growing up watching them. Caprice Coleman is the best commentator in pro wrestling right now without question. That guy deserves a position forever.
    5 points
  6. AEW Films needs to get on with it with the Garcia / Danhausen buddy cop movie. Where, much like The Other Guys, Garcia is the one doing the comedic tour de force the entire time and you don’t realize how genius it is until the 3rd time you watch the movie. Eddie Kingston is the police chief Movie starts with Mox and Sting aiming for the bushes
    5 points
  7. I had a dream that I somehow bumped into Brock Lesnar in the supermarket, and it turned out he had absolutely no understanding of maths, so I felt obliged to try and explain it to him. It was a bit of a minefield, because what I didn't want to do was make him feel like an idiot and get F5'd through the organic foods cabinet. There was a lot of trying to explain things in terms of how many hours a day he spends watching American Football.
    5 points
  8. Hayter is already overdue for a belt and for getting away from Britt. She’s way too good to just be her muscle. Storm is the other choice, as long as it leads to the Britt-Hayter breakup. Shida I guess could work as a placeholder, nothing against her but she hasn’t done shit in AEW in 2022. Fuck Britt Baker.
    5 points
  9. It’s not just that the roster is way too overloaded, they’ve had a bad habit of just continuing to introduce new people, some who aren’t even under contract, after they debut new people the week prior and then they disappear. It doesn’t even make sense. Add to that the new japan crossover, which everyone wanted from the very beginning but it still ended up getting shoe horned in, then the roh crossover which literally no one was asking for. Super odd way to make people lose a connection to a show with supposedly continuing storylines. Brand new person this week, please forget the brand new person we introduced last week. And you’ll never guess what we have planned for next week.
    4 points
  10. This nails it. The week to week is still great but it doesn't feel like it's building stuff PPV worthy. Those first few years about Hangman's chase and the rise of MJF as the company's biggest dirtbag were fantastic but there there was a little "okay, now what" after. I have faith they'll get back on track. Every great company has their lulls and "not as good as it used to be" AEW is still better than most other stuff out there (for me at least).
    4 points
  11. I'd much rather watch Zack Sabre Jr and PAC than Will Ospreay. ZSJ gets my vote as the best of the three.
    4 points
  12. @SirSmellingtonofCascadia. Pre-1980 preferred, eh? How 'bout 1950? That pre-1980 enough for ya? Two out of three falls, for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. This is really excellent stuff. I'd recommend everyone give it a watch when they have the time. Also: I never drew DEAN or Porksweats, so here are hand-picked fully optional bonus matches for the two of yous: @DEAN I give you your handsome cinnamon boy vs my erstwhile drinking buddy: @porksweats You don't like EVOLVE, eh? I don't even know EVOLVE but according to Wikipedia their alumni list includes awesome wrestlers like Eddie Kingston, WALTER, Daniel Garcia, The Workhorsemen, Jeff Cobb... but also a ton of maximalist guys which I assume is what you meant. So: I'm gonna assume, possibly incorrectly, that what you dislike is a kind of self-consciously epic overdone too many finishers multiple 2.999 kickouts unnecessarily fancy style? Feel free to let me know if I am close or not. In any case, I offer you this: i already posted it on the general discussion thread. I described it as possibly the most minimalist, least flashy pro wrestling match filmed in my lifetime. It's the opposite of what I (possibly incorrectly) assume is the EVOLVE style you do not dig. It may in fact go too far in the other direction, but I honestly found this fascinating. A typical mid-card late-60s Japanese "indie" match? Maybe! I really don't know. I'm dying to get someone else's thoughts on this.I Oh! Hey! @SirSmellingtonofCascadia. Just struck me that I should have offered you up some Choshu! This is a great one. Feel free to choose either match.
    4 points
  13. Lmao now I just want them to remake the French Connection with Kingston as Hackman and Danielson as Roy Scheider
    4 points
  14. Tito and Orndorff were so great together. Each guy really brought out the best in the other.
    4 points
  15. Hasn't everything still been built around Baker? She had more promo time than Rosa when Rosa made her injury announcement. Something that hasn't been brought up is that Penelope Ford was suspended for making a comment to Tony Khan. Not exactly sure what was said but it had to be bad for Khan to suspend her especially right when Kip is on his way back. Garcia isn't seen as a ratings sacrifice to me, especially as he's being used with Danielson and Jericho both guys known to pop ratings. Both of his arguments are wrong. Look at the time they spend on Starks, Hook, Hobbs, all can be considered new guys and all get considerable TV time.
    4 points
  16. I also like how Dave argued that if the women's segments aren't pulling good ratings you need to build everything around Britt Baker again and then several breaths later went on and on about the necessity of sacrificing ratings in order to give time to new guys like Garcia.
    4 points
  17. I am a big fan of fancams of just about anything so a big thumbs up from me. Their first ever singles match, believe it or not. Saved that one quick in case WWE isn't amused and gets it removed.
    4 points
  18. When I was 6, the Tidewater Tides were the AAA affiliate to the Mets and the Mets were playing the Tides and Willie Mays was playing. My older brother and older cousin got to go. I didn't. I am still pissed off. I am 56.
    4 points
  19. Just another instance of maybe me being happier with the booking philosophy of a different era here? But A.K. picked 98/99 WWE. That's a good choice to cherry pick what point he'd like to demonstrate. I'll do the same and cherry pick 1996 WCW. They had about 200 wrestlers under contract. They were super commercially successful during this run. Business was booming. You'd get the important people mostly every week or two. You'd get get your regulars that get in the rotation once a month or so. And you'd get these wacky dudes showing up you had no idea WCW even had under contract. It was the best. At least to me. AEW could keep the exact same roster and utilize it more effectively if TK just quit using his rigid formula. Nitro would hit 8-12 matches a week in the 2 hour era. AEW has 6 matches every single Dynamite. There is no deviating from that number. It is 6 and it will always be 6. Only one of those 6 a week is a women's match. Literally go back and check results. It always has been 6 and it's always going to be 6. And that is farrrrrrr more at blame than the roster size. TK is beholden to every match needing to be an epic. Throwing in a 5 minute sprint, or a 2 minute squash, or a story related indecisive finish once and awhile would make things far more unpredictable. You'd see more of the roster each week. Women could have 2 or 3 matches a week depending on that week's format. Everyone complaining about the roster size is missing the actual culprit. That stupid rigid format that has been run into the ground. Mix. It. Up. ETA: Leaving my post unedited but did want to add in my year and number were off a bit. 1997 had 125 wrestlers under contract and is basically a 1:1 comparison for AEW. 200 was wrong and exaggerated. But still a valid point.
    3 points
  20. I fully admit this is one of those moments where it seems like what I like out of wrestling is a bygone era and maybe it's passed me by. But I think extending Rampage would be a bad idea, brand split or not. I actually think Rampage & battle of the Belts are both bad moves, at least as far as my enjoyment goes. I get that they're making more money off of more programing. But I wish we went back to the days of just a single 2 hour Dynamite in a week. Less is more. My enjoyment in wrestling was at it's peak when WWE only had a 2 hour Raw. WCW only had a 2 hour Nitro. ECW just had their one hour of Hardcore TV. You would look forward to it all week. You never got burned out because it was just one show a week. Every company just produces too much content. WWE has 7 first run prime time TV hours. As well as the supplementary network shows. AEW has 3 first run hours, Battle of the Belts thrown in a couple times a year, plus like 3 hours of supplementary youtube stuff. Everything gets burned through so quick. There's no room to breathe and anticipate the shows all week anymore. That's a long answer to a short question, but my enjoyment meter would not enjoy adding an hour to Rampage at all. For whatever that is worth.
    3 points
  21. I really hope Ricky Starks gets a nice push over the course of the next year up into the main event scene, because I would like to see some "AEW originals" if you will push their way into the top. It's nice to have CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Adam Cole, etc. on your roster, but do not let it stunt the growth of the performers who could be the stars of tomorrow. I just don't want them to wait too long while someone's hand is hot by trying to appease to the other big names they've brought in. A main event scene with MJF, Ricky Starks, Darby Allin, Jungle Boy, etc excites me more than the current one we're at. I'm not bashing it, but I'm ready for some of these guys to really get a push up into superstardom if you will.
    3 points
  22. 3 points
  23. 3 points
  24. Sure, it's nothing to do with the quality of booking the past 9 months.
    3 points
  25. I'm cracking up at how Vandy had been in Hawaii since last Sunday, practiced and enjoyed the hell out of themselves for a full week, then absolutely ethered the Bows. Clark Lea is a genius of the highest level.
    3 points
  26. There were about 800-ish tickets left for All Out, but they were combo Dynamite/PPV tickets. Yesterday, those tickets were made single event tickets in hopes of moving the remainder. Which they most assuredly will, between a main event being announced and the walk-up crowd. EDIT: I see we’re all on top of this, first thing on a Sunday morning. Great job, DVDVR.
    3 points
  27. Ever, I'd say. For, @Greggulator.
    3 points
  28. I was lucky to see WALTER vs. Cesaro in a true dream match live last November on a Smackdown house show. I found the match on YouTube and looked today, it's still there: WALTER rarely did house show matches at the time so it was a real treat. Also got to see Ciampa and Bron Breakker live. I was lucky to see the show as I was right ill the day before and day of. Those who had RAW tickets were understandably pissed off.
    3 points
  29. They're keeping O'Reilly off tv because his insistence on cupping to speed up his recovery has rendered him into a basically unrecognizable polka dot man
    3 points
  30. The issue is that they want Young Bucks/Omega to have a big match on the PPV to help sell it, Aussie Open isn't as well known or popular in the US (which is an understatement). Dark Order/Aussie Open would fall flat to many as a PPV-quality match, especially if they want the Trios titles to begin with a bang. I'd bet anything that Omega isn't pinning Ospreay, more likely Omega pins one of his buddies to just set up the future match. No one will see The Elite beating Aussie Open as Omega beating Ospreay so it won't really impact their future singles match either way. If the Finals wasn't at the PPV they would have more flexibility but with the schedule I can't imagine them keeping The Elite out of the title match.
    3 points
  31. I would have Hayter win it because it's interesting. It would shake up the division and cause tension between Baker and Hayter. Hayter wasn't supposed to win. She was supposed to prop up Britt.
    3 points
  32. I'm all for people getting paid. I'm all for multiple promotions having multiple titles. If I'm watching AEW though, why is Claudio defending the ROH World Title on Rampage? Why is Dustin Rhodes wanting this title and not the actual AEW World Title? Are they equivalent in terms of pay and status? If the ROH Titles are that highly regarded then why aren't the Tag, Pure, Women's and TV titles being highlighted? Having 15 titles doesn't make these matches more interesting or prestigious. If anything it makes them more predictable. Dustin was never winning that match. Take out the title though and there's a chance he could have upset Claudio to start a program. In the last 12 months we introduced the TBS, AA and Trios titles to the AEW roster, as well as all the ROH Titles AND the AAA/NJPW Titles floating in and out. It was cool when Kenny was the Belt Collecter, building himself up as THE World Champion in North America. It dilutes things (IMO) when you have Mox and Claudio both claiming to be World Champion, Wardlow/Joe/Yuta/PAC/Hook all holding midcard titles, Multiple sets of tag titles from multiple promotions, Multiple women's titles... And this is all before you get to the 'Interim Champion' debate. I keep saying it but the ROH stuff needs to be confined to Dark. Turn that into the ROH Show, clarify the roster split, and keep everything clear. Then when you do Battle of the Belts every 6 months it actually has a purpose with the ROH guys being highlighted vs their AEW counterparts.
    2 points
  33. @GordlowYou mentioned Finlay and you preferred short matches. Let's go with this match, which I just saw during my Nitro watch-through. Everyone talks (generally quite positively) about Finlay/Regal at Uncensored 1996, which is a match that I found to meander and be sort of dull and disappointing. This, on the other hand, is the rematch on the Nitro after Uncensored. It is quite short and has one really stupid spot in it that I hope you might enjoy, even considering the over-proliferation of hardcore wrestling since this match originally happened.
    2 points
  34. Wait I didn't get a @DEAN pick? Is my counting really that bad? Mr. Rasmussen if you're willing I'll shoot you something after work. @Matt D I'll also try and do those depending how bad my ass gets kicked at the job today. Took a day off the internet and I'm playing catch-up.
    2 points
  35. ~BONUS SANTO CONTENT~ I guess I should revise my statement, I'm not into the Gargano contingent of EVOLVE and the dream of Black And Gold NXT because I do like the Workhorsemen and Garcia (not a WALTER fan though I'll be honest) and you did assume correctly. I don't want 40 minute epics with a trillion kickouts. ONTO THE REVIEW. Wow okay yeah that is working a headlock. They're at it, leg scissors now. The reversal sequence from 3:10-20 is INCREDIBLE, it's so simple but I'm enthralled. We're back up, we're back down, we're jockeying oh it's a leg scissor again, more jockeying into a headlock. This continues on for quite some time back and forth. Daigo breaks free at 10:24 and bounces off the ropes, going for a shoulder block but Oiso catches and takes him down with another headlock! Back and forth, Oiso got control, but Daigo with a dropkick!? What a high spot! Daigo on the offense with some strikes now and Oiso is definitely out of his wheelhouse, now out of the ring as he gets tossed out. Oiso plays this smart, drags Daigo out, gets back in and is ready for him with another HEADLOCK. Daigo with a flurry of dropkicks, I like his kicks because they aren't parallel to the ground, they're angled up like a / but with the angle of the upper part of a <. Oiso dodges the last one, bodyslams Daigo and goes for a splash thats rolled from. Oiso ends this match with a pair of bulldogs from the corner, the second one Dustin Rhodes-esque. Takeaways: Loved this. Ain't no thing as a rest hold, they're fighting every minute of this match. Both Daigo and Oiso, very cool. Doubt theres much if any other footage of them but I'd love to check and I will. Thanks Gord.
    2 points
  36. The umlat is a tiara and the new logo was made to catch the interest of foreigners. And the rise of the letters for sporty feel. Honestly most companies out of wrestling also want to make their logos more simple and eligible to read. Anyway there is a graphic list of unused logos out there.
    2 points
  37. I realise there's a risk that this won't make anyone else laugh, but oh boy did it bust me up good. I have been keeping myself amused by typing in stuff like "Stan Hansen painted in the style of Vermeer." Results were never quite as bang-on as the Danielson one. Then I tried, "Jaguar Yokota painted in the style of Ogata Korin"
    2 points
  38. EC3 seemed to break more of a sweat cutting his crappy promo as opposed to wrestling his crappy match.
    2 points
  39. Dave Meltzer sure loves Will Ospreay. I can't get Will Ospreay at all.
    2 points
  40. Are we that sure that The Elite go over here? It seems like a terrible booking move. We've made it very clear that Kenny is back too soon and isn't at 100%. Kenny vs Ospreay is a money match, which becomes a nothing match if a shell of his former self Kenny goes over Ospreay. Ospreay beating the still injured Omega, and crowing about it as if it was at his prime, and then not coming back to AEW for months after adds to the build to that one in a big way. Even more so if Callis turns on Omega and sides with Ospreay, or you have Undisputed Elite come out and cost them the match. I mean for that very reason, I'm sure it'll be one of the Bucks getting the pin on Aussie Open, which feels very underwhelming in the scheme of things. Aussie Open/Ospreay vs Dark Order/Hangman finals with the Bucks or Omega helping Hangman get the win creates far more stories and intrigue.
    2 points
  41. The pretext phone call had him advising her, per the suit: “During the call, Araiza confirmed having sex with Doe, even telling her that she should get tested for STDs. When the detectives heard this, they instructed Doe to say, ‘Wait, what STD?’ Araiza told Doe that he had tested positive for chlamydia, at which time Doe was instructed to say, ‘So you know what to get tested for OK, that makes me feel a bit better.'” Its I guess possible that the lawyer is lying about the pretext call but that would be pretty damaging to their case, so since they are using quotes I am assuming the pretext calls are recorded and legitimate.
    2 points
  42. it was really cool. i've seen a fair amount of rap shows before. Warren G opened. it was solid and i enjoyed it, but nothing to really write home about. Ice Cube rocked. he interacted with the crowd well. told quick stories (sorta like skits i guess?) to set up his next song. WC was his backup/hypeman, so i was hoping for a Westside Connection song, but alas he didn't play one. Played a good mix of stuff, early solo, recent stuff, collabs, NWA. Ice Cube is awesome. much respect. Snoop came out and the crowd went insane. [side note, the people in front of me were talking to venue security (i guess it was a friend of theirs or something) and he was saying that they were explicitly told by management not to call out people for smoking, because it was an unwinnable fight. i've seen some shows at this venue where the security were big dicks about smoking, so this was funny to hear.] Snoop rapped everything. he didn't do what so many performers do, with starting to sing a line and then holding out the mic for the crowd to sing. He just kept going, and he was clear and sounded good the whole time. the set was like an hour or more and he was moving around a lot, and never seemed to run out of breath. That might be what impressed me the most. His stage set was pretty simple but had a few ladies pole dancing for almost the entirety. his set list was really interesting, as he didn't generally perform entire songs, but would do his verse, or the main verse of a song, and of course the chorus, and kinda just kept going to the next song. i haven't seen a performer pull off a set like this, but it worked really well here. Maybe because so much of his music is based around features? Snoop's set was absolutely amazing and the entire crowd ate up everything he was doing. edit: while i'm at it, may as well talk about the Zombies show. it was fun. like i mentioned in the original post, the venue is so cool. seeing a legitimate Hall of Fame band play there (they usually get up-and-coming or indie bands mainly) really felt special. They sounded good, played tight, and the lead singer/songwriter told some really fun and interesting stories in between songs. It was super hot that day and i got overheated so stayed out of the barn for most of the set.
    2 points
  43. Have we done Val Venis yet? "Salutations, women!"
    2 points
  44. Art literally imitating life lol
    2 points
  45. 90210 Steve Sanders would have been a perfect douch heel. Way better than Miz and MJF. His finish could be the Legacy Key lock
    2 points
  46. Nah, see, Sting's got immunity because Muta hit him with the yellow mist in '89. He's sayin "Fuck you and your crew, Tommy."
    2 points
  47. Daniel Garcia reminds me of Wahlberg in “the Other Guys.” Macho to the point of being incapable of rational thought…
    2 points
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