Bustronaut Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 It's sort of a tricky place for WWE to be in. The best way to get Bryan away from Orton for many months (which is necessary in the same way keeping rock and Austin apart in 98 was) is to turn Show on him. They've done it already two times in the last two years in similar situations. I think they have to be playing with everyone's expectations that Show will turn. They can tease Show turning, but turn someone else instead (Corporate Cody?) and perhaps do an Orton-Show program to portray Orton as a guy who can beat anyone while keeping the champ occupied. Part of me still wants the Ted Jr. retirement to be an internet-working thing so we end up with Corporate Legacy Just plug in Bo Dallas. Man, someone needs to. He's Bo-ring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 It's sort of a tricky place for WWE to be in. The best way to get Bryan away from Orton for many months (which is necessary in the same way keeping rock and Austin apart in 98 was) is to turn Show on him. They've done it already two times in the last two years in similar situations. I think they have to be playing with everyone's expectations that Show will turn. They can tease Show turning, but turn someone else instead (Corporate Cody?) and perhaps do an Orton-Show program to portray Orton as a guy who can beat anyone while keeping the champ occupied. Part of me still wants the Ted Jr. retirement to be an internet-working thing so we end up with Corporate Legacy Just plug in Bo Dallas. Man, someone needs to. He's Bo-ring What about Bo Dallas and Curtis Axel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Stop that. It only makes sense if it's Ted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 After the past two weeks, I will pop like a monkey if Bryan busts out the Cross Rhodes on Orton too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Last night, I saw that and my mind went "Curtain Call!" so it was a pretty great moment when he hit the Cross Rhodes instead, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Man, now I'm mad that Dustin never won the WCW World title. Someone resurrect the 100 Dustin Rhodes matches better than HHH thread. I don't even care if they're not better. We need more Dustin in our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanandlerbong Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 C'mon - we're 12 pages in and it really isn't clear that the whole AJ/Lawler/JBL segment was scripted or at least conceptualized? It's much easier for me to believe that the segment of insults was designed to achieve the desired result (i.e. this discussion) than it all came off the cuff with JBL defending Lawler from the lightning-sharp wit of AJ on live television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 C'mon - we're 12 pages in and it really isn't clear that the whole AJ/Lawler/JBL segment was scripted or at least conceptualized? It's much easier for me to believe that the segment of insults was designed to achieve the desired result (i.e. this discussion) than it all came off the cuff with JBL defending Lawler from the lightning-sharp wit of AJ on live television. Considering everything is scripted to the point where Stone Cold won't come back to do things unless they agree to not script him, of course AJ was being fed lines. It is foolish to believe otherwise. It is also foolish to believe that when the writers were using AJ to take a dig at Lawler's past they were doing so to generate discussion about gender roles in wrestling on an internet message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 C'mon - we're 12 pages in and it really isn't clear that the whole AJ/Lawler/JBL segment was scripted or at least conceptualized? It's much easier for me to believe that the segment of insults was designed to achieve the desired result (i.e. this discussion) than it all came off the cuff with JBL defending Lawler from the lightning-sharp wit of AJ on live television. I definitely think this. HHH said in the Grantland interview that if anyone went off-script they'd have their mic turned off immediately. I'd imagine that would also lead to a very justifiable and immediate firing. I doubt what they said was scripted (wrestling works best when it has an improvisational feel) but this was definitely mapped out. Good for them, too. They're giving smart fans (as in employable people who have read a book within the past three months who also have abstract thought processes who also like wrestling) something to discuss and analyze. AJ and the Corporate Faction Better Business Bureau are two angles that actually have depth. The slugs can enjoy the whole I HOPE DANIEL BRYAN BEATS RANDY ORTON! part of it while those of us who have things like an education can talk about the different nuances and greater metaphors the stories are representing.AND, as a plus, the actual wrestling itself is fucking awesome right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I think Orton gets overlooked for being great in the match last night. He has enough presence that he can make the situation is hopeless. But just vulnerable enough you believe he can lose at anytime. That is a difficult balancing act to make work and there is not another guy on the roster that can do that. The RKO crushing dreams so immediately was great and Dust took a great bump for it. Very immediate, instead of making a big production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I will, by the way, freely admit that I was completely wrong about Corporate Triple H, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I will, by the way, freely admit that I was completely wrong about Corporate Triple H, by the way. I will also, dependant on the finish of the Title match on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 He is great at getting heat. But I'm still waiting for when the story requires him to get beat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I will, by the way, freely admit that I was completely wrong about Corporate Triple H, by the way.What do you mean?Also, it's great that the Chewlies Gum rep went on to become a doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 You guys should probably know that Bryan is losing, and Big Show will probably have something to do with it. So if you think Bryan winning makes the angle a success, you're primed for failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 This is the first time I've watched a non PPV without reading the results first in years. One of the few shows I've watched whole (excusing the filler like recaps, divas matches, PPV ads) since the Edge vs. Kane w/Paul Bearer feud killed Smackdown for me. That being said, I enjoyed seeing HHH shit all over Edge and call the idea of Edge being a legend a joke. Goldust/Orton was fun, and I liked HHH dissing him backstage and refusing to call him Goldust. Stephanie afterwards was so nasty, I really like everything happening with HHH and Stephanie but I'm disappointed in the lack of Brad Maddox. At least Maddox got to cameo in the AWESOME Paul Heyman skit. That was maybe my favorite Heyman bit in his whole WWE run. I was also waiting for Show to knock out Orton at the end since he was only specifically told not to touch The Shield but I guess the real ending was a better PPV build. I don't hate what they are doing with Show, but I admit to only seeing the crying bit from last week in recap form. Interested to see how Bryan gets screwed out of the title at Night of Champions, I hope it's not Big Show related. I would however accept Mark Henry, Brock Lesnar or Barood interference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 He is great at getting heat. But I'm still waiting for when the story requires him to get beat up. Can you last until Wrestlemania? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 You guys should probably know that Bryan is losing, and Big Show will probably have something to do with it. So if you think Bryan winning makes the angle a success, you're primed for failure. Oh, I know Bryan is losing. Its *how* he loses that makes the difference. Course, he actually *could* win, and again, depends on how that makes the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 You guys should probably know that Bryan is losing, and Big Show will probably have something to do with it. So if you think Bryan winning makes the angle a success, you're primed for failure. Bryan winning and holding the belt for any length of time is just about the very worst thing they can do at this point. They set up a chase. Why the hell would they hotshot the payoff? I don't think he should get it til Mania. Big Show for a couple of months. HHH in December to get into the Rumble. Wins the rumble. Mania. Made forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 So who gets Randy until Bryan conquers Show?I'm guessing Cody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 You guys should probably know that Bryan is losing, and Big Show will probably have something to do with it. So if you think Bryan winning makes the angle a success, you're primed for failure. Bryan winning and holding the belt for any length of time is just about the very worst thing they can do at this point. They set up a chase. Why the hell would they hotshot the payoff? I don't think he should get it til Mania. Big Show for a couple of months. HHH in December to get into the Rumble. Wins the rumble. Mania. Made forever. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Who would have ever predicted that AJ would be Shawn Michaels to Dolph's Marty Janetty? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 There's also a lot of money to be made in Bryan finally conquers the odds right when John Cena makes his triumphant return, setting up a rematch at WM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I just can't stop thinking about Dustin's bulldog last night. Am I alone in thinking that had alittle extra snap than most bulldogs? It seemed really vicious and awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DtM Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 All the defence of Lawler's and JBL's reactions to AJ's comments - They basically slut shame her on TV every frickin week and it's pretty tiresome so, personally, a few shots back across their lame bows are fine by me. Scheming psycho = heel. Girl who likes sex does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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