AEW - SEPTEMBER 2024

[The Natural]

4 minutes ago, AxB said:

Nyla and Saraya, in the same stable? They're not exactly politically compatible, on a personal level.

Good shout. I forgot Saraya and her BF are POS.

[Zimbra]

8 minutes ago, AxB said:

Nyla and Saraya, in the same stable? They're not exactly politically compatible, on a personal level.

I wasn't sure exactly where Saraya's bigotries lie but you're probably right.

[Log]

If we don't get the line "Jon Moxley looks to turn Bryan Danielson's WrestleDream into a WrestleNightmare" somewhere in the lead-up to that match, what are we even doing here?

[Curt McGirt]

Yeah, c'mon Ex. That's him to a tee; can even hear him say it in my head. 

Totally forgot about RAW UNDERGROUND~! That makes a lot of sense considering in the Vince doc he talked about Vince nixing him buying UFC. Whether it ended up popular or not it would be a snub at his dad for that. If it worked then it'd show that shootstyle was viable, and if not then it wasted Vince's airtime. 

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

1 hour ago, AxB said:

Nyla and Saraya, in the same stable? They're not exactly politically compatible, on a personal level.

The same could be said for Nyla and Vickie Guerrero, and yet…

[odessasteps]

You used to have tag partners who didn’t get along but stayed together because it was good for business. 
 

Prob not the case in 2024, for a number of reasons.

[Technico Support]

7 hours ago, Log said:

If we don't get the line "Jon Moxley looks to turn Bryan Danielson's WrestleDream into a WrestleNightmare" somewhere in the lead-up to that match, what are we even doing here?

And MxM working the word “wet” into WrestleDream promos, of course.

This is probably a good place to mention that I really enjoy MxM.  Dave is a massive detractor, saying it’s even worse than their WWE gimmick.  I never saw it there but I imagine the difference is “laughing at” vs “laughing with,” and Vince’s idea of what makes a male model gimmick funny (HA HA LOOK AT THESE FAGS PAL) vs two young, smart, funny guys’ idea of what makes it funny (double entendres and dick jokes as far as the eye can see ).  Like these two guys are in on the joke, so they are more empowered, as opposed acting out an old white guy’s ideas of why this is funny.  I hope that makes sense.  Anyway, check out their interview on Hey Ew.  It was great.

 

Sometimes Dave comes off like he thinks AEW should be mid 90s All Japan.

Edited September 27, 2024 by Technico Support

[mystman]

30 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

 

 

Sometimes Dave comes off like he thinks AEW should be mid 90s All Japan.

Sometimes Dave is right.

[Technico Support]

2 hours ago, mystman said:

Sometimes Dave is right.

In the sense that great matches and clean finishes are cool?  Yes.  In the sense that everything needs to be SERIOUS BUSINESS?  Nah.  

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

3 hours ago, Technico Support said:

Sometimes Dave comes off like he thinks AEW should be mid 90s All Japan.

 

11 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

In the sense that great matches and clean finishes are cool?  Yes.  In the sense that everything needs to be SERIOUS BUSINESS?  Nah.  

I'll just leave this unrelated video here for funsies.

 

[Octopus]

10 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

 

I'll just leave this unrelated video here for funsies.

 

The Four Pillars were the original Cheetah Girls

[Zimbra]

25 minutes ago, Technico Support said:

In the sense that great matches and clean finishes are cool?  Yes.  In the sense that everything needs to be SERIOUS BUSINESS?  Nah.  

He meant there should be more spit-take spots and Jun Izumida in Kamala paint.

[HarryArchieGus]

4 hours ago, Technico Support said:

And MxM working the word “wet” into WrestleDream promos, of course.

This is probably a good place to mention that I really enjoy MxM.  Dave is a massive detractor, saying it’s even worse than their WWE gimmick.  I never saw it there but I imagine the difference is “laughing at” vs “laughing with,” and Vince’s idea of what makes a male model gimmick funny (HA HA LOOK AT THESE FAGS PAL) vs two young, smart, funny guys’ idea of what makes it funny (double entendres and dick jokes as far as the eye can see ).  Like these two guys are in on the joke, so they are more empowered, as opposed acting out to an old white guy’s ideas of why this is funny.  I hope that makes sense.  Anyway, check out their interview on Hey Ew.  It was great.

 

Sometimes Dave comes off like he thinks AEW should be mid 90s All Japan.

Yeah, they're way off on MxM. Dave and Bryan's collective wrestling bubble sense of humour can't distinguish between what you laid out in your comments above. Mansoor and Madden are both making the most of their minutes. Mansoor has shown an ability to carry the workload in ring, but Madden's been using his size as good as any monster currently on the roster. He also looks better every time out. The mic work's been great, and clearly making an impression with audiences. I'm a fan. 

1 hour ago, Technico Support said:

In the sense that great matches and clean finishes are cool?  Yes.  In the sense that everything needs to be SERIOUS BUSINESS?  Nah.  

I'm also extremely tired of their collective inability to get over story finishes building to further matches. Alvarez in particular is completely oblivious and so whiny whenever it happens. They also like to gripe 'just a match' whenever there's a story progression match or showcase as opposed to something going for stars. They spend half the shows talking business yet fail to understand the purpose of a large number of segments. 

Edited September 27, 2024 by HarryArchieGus

[Technico Support]

2 hours ago, Zimbra said:

He meant there should be more spit-take spots and Jun Izumida in Kamala paint.

I’d be fine with Edge, Christian, Billy Gunn, Dustin, Jericho, Jarrett, etc. in card opening comedy six man matches.  

Edited September 27, 2024 by Technico Support

[JLowe]

14 hours ago, AxB said:

Saraya re-signed for another year in AEW.

Do I want to see her wrestle? No.

Is she one of the few women who get true heel heat and has done a good job with Harley Cameron? Yes.

Would she be a solid Sherri Martel style manager? I think maybe.

edit to add: I forgot that a fair amount of her heat is of the “go away you’re an actual terrible person ” type

Edited September 27, 2024 by JLowe

[HarryArchieGus]

13 minutes ago, JLowe said:

Do I want to see her wrestle? No.

Is she one of the few women who get true heel heat and has done a good job with Harley Cameron? Yes.

Would she be a solid Sherri Martel style manager? I think maybe.

edit to add: I forgot that a fair amount of her heat is of the “go away you’re an actual terrible person ” type

I'm a huge fan of her on screen work. The duo with Harley has been largely missed by much of the audience not watching B/C, but they've been so fun and funny. Somebody fill me in on what has ppl upset with Saraya. What's up!?

[NoFistsJustFlips]

Just popping in to mention how tacky I think it is for a pro wrestling company to artificially extend a talent contract due to injury. I hate it when WWE does it. I hate it when AEW does it. Yet another reason why there needs to be a union in wrestling. These people get used & taken advantage of beyond the pale. The Jets don't get to automatically keep Aaron Rodgers a year longer just because he blew out his achilies last year. It's predatory bullshit and something I used to think AEW was above. TK is losing good will with fans & workers alike by fucking over Fenix. Your end date should be your end date, full stop.

[zendragon]

3 hours ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

 

I'll just leave this unrelated video here for funsies.

 

Does this predate STAND BACK!!!!?

[JLowe]

13 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:

Just popping in to mention how tacky I think it is for a pro wrestling company to artificially extend a talent contract due to injury. I hate it when WWE does it. I hate it when AEW does it. Yet another reason why there needs to be a union in wrestling. These people get used & taken advantage of beyond the pale. The Jets don't get to automatically keep Aaron Rodgers a year longer just because he blew out his achilies last year. It's predatory bullshit and something I used to think AEW was above. TK is losing good will with fans & workers alike by fucking over Fenix. Your end date should be your end date, full stop.

Totally agree.

[SovietShooter]

On 9/25/2024 at 8:24 AM, HarryArchieGus said:

The trios titles always seemed like a weak idea. Trios matches don't need nor benefit a great deal from championships being passed around. There's little to no prestige.

 

On 9/25/2024 at 1:12 PM, Technico Support said:

Six man tag belts need some sort of gimmick or hook.  Otherwise, they’re just “our regular tag belts with an extra dude.”  Off the top of my head, I’d go with actual trios rules or at least the “no tags” rules.  Or every match is tornado style or elimination.  Something.  Put he belts on some crazy highspot workers and make it the crazy ass PWG party match title.  Make it so you know that a six man title match means crazy shit is incoming.  AEW does enough multi man matches that they could defend it every week. 

Even in Lucha, where trios matches are king, trios titles are not terribly prestigious.  AEW is trying to book them like regular tag titles, and that is the problem. The trios titles should be clear prelim titles, with seemingly random teams, and frequent title changes.

Like, The Conglomeration™ is the perfect stable for this. Have Kyle/Orange/Brisco win them, and lose them to like Top Flight, who lose them to Rocky/Kyle/Ishii, who lose them to Private Party and Komander, who lose them Kyle/Brisco/Willow... Or something like that.

I threw Willow in there because... Make them intergender! 

[Technico Support]

These dudes should have unionized years ago.  I blame Hogan.

[Technico Support]

3 minutes ago, SovietShooter said:

 

Even in Lucha, where trios matches are king, trios titles are not terribly prestigious.  AEW is trying to book them like regular tag titles, and that is the problem. The trios titles should be clear prelim titles, with seemingly random teams, and frequent title changes.

Like, The Conglomeration™ is the perfect stable for this. Have Kyle/Orange/Brisco win them, and lose them to like Top Flight, who lose them to Rocky/Kyle/Ishii, who lose them to Private Party and Komander, who lose them Kyle/Brisco/Willow... Or something like that.

I threw Willow in there because... Make them intergender! 

I concur.  Make the trios belts the modern equivalent of WCW's lucha matches -- throwaway lower card matches where at least you know you'll get some wild, cool action.  On Rampage, a long time ago, Top FlIght & Andretti had an insane match with three luchadores, maybe Vikingo, Kommander, and somebody, not sure.  DO.  THAT.  SHIT.  WEEKLY.  FOR. THE. BELTS.

Edited September 27, 2024 by Technico Support

[Jenalysis]

2 hours ago, HarryArchieGus said:

I'm a huge fan of her on screen work. The duo with Harley has been largely missed by much of the audience not watching B/C, but they've been so fun and funny. Somebody fill me in on what has ppl upset with Saraya. What's up!?

 

Her fiancee is a horrible person, including being a transphobic bigot.

 

[Infinit]

2 hours ago, Technico Support said:

These dudes should have unionized years ago.  I blame Hogan.

I have strong opinions about former WWF/WCW/WWE Champion Terry Bollea which you should PM me about. But I wanted to express them here too because I can't help myself

@The Natural

[The Natural]

2 hours ago, Technico Support said:

These dudes should have unionized years ago.  I blame Hogan.

 

6 minutes ago, Infinit said:

I have strong opinions about former WWF/WCW/WWE Champion Terry Bollea which you should PM me about. But I wanted to express them here too because I can't help myself

@The Natural

Thank you, my friends. The word filter got you, Infinit. We know what it means :).