lostinube Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Deadline, Variety, Rolling Stone and a bunch of other sites/magazines that cover the entertainment biz are owned by Penske Media Corporation. Jay Penske (son of Roger Penske, yes, the racing guy) is a member of the AMPTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Not only is SDCC being affected, people are wondering if actors can/will do other conventions moving forward, where they are booked to do signings and appearances. Does signing merch from a current project violate the spirit of the strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I wonder which wrestlers currently working full time (so not Rock and Cena) are SAG/AFTRA members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I believe they've said people can go to cons, they just can't promote anything. So no panels, but signing stuff/taking fan pics is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: I wonder which wrestlers currently working full time (so not Rock and Cena) are SAG/AFTRA members. I'm guessing: All of The Shield, Becky, Edge, Paul E., Rey, Ronda, Charlotte, Xavier, and The Miz (who I'll bet, being from a working class Cleveland suburb has more thoughts on this than you'd think). Oh, and Carlito, assuming he's actually "on the roster." Maybe Hunter too? EDIT -- Oh, duh. Mercedes Mone/Sasha Banks is absolutely SAG. She couldn't be on The Mandalorian if she wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: I wonder which wrestlers currently working full time (so not Rock and Cena) are SAG/AFTRA members. Nikkita Lyons of WWE Rocky Romero and Jorel Nelson of NJPW Colt Cabana and John Hennigan of AEW Aron Stevens and Mercurio (Bryan Idol) of NWA Rob Van Dam and Katie Forbes Former GLOW star Hollywood Chavo Guerrero Jr. Edited July 14, 2023 by Dolphman 3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 That reminded me of Katie Forbes' existence. What is she doing now? I hate to say it but this makes me think "acting" (you know what I mean). The Matt Damon thing was on the news last night and they didn't make him look bad at all, even in clip form. If they're being fair then Deadline really sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Dolfan in NYC said: EDIT -- Oh, duh. Mercedes Mone/Sasha Banks is absolutely SAG. She couldn't be on The Mandalorian if she wasn't. That's not how SAG works - you work a certain number of SAG productions on a probationary period before you get full membership You still get SAG protections and credit towards an eventual SAG membership, but you're not full union off the bat. Paul London is still only "SAG Eligible" and he's been in a few things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I just don’t see a middle ground with this stuff: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/actors-strike-sag-artificial-intelligence-hollywood-studios-background-1234788191/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Yeah this is late capitalism to a tee. Actors need to start listening to Conflict records. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 The irony is if they start with AI, they'll eventually start losing people to do movies with, if the strike continues -- they won't have enough people to clone! All they'll have is willing scabs that are willing to work for a pittance. But actors losing their homes, the "bleeding out" process, if that starts happening, I see funds from actors with deep deep pockets helping out, or they negotiate. It could go either way, and this is just me spitballing, but hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Who needs new actors? Star Wars already broke the "dead actor CGIed into a movie role" seal. With AI, they can use whichever dead actor they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 SAG clarified that actors can do conventions and autograph shows, as long as they aren't promoting in progress or future projects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I think the AI proposal is only referring to extras - actors with lines would be protected by the precedent Crispin Glover set after he sued and won when Back to the Future: Part II dressed someone else up in prosthetics to look like him after he declined to reprise his role from the first film Extras generally get shit pay ($120-ish per day, which can last 12+ hours) but a lot of people make a living off it, especially in Los Angeles where there's constant work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, nofuture said: Who needs new actors? Star Wars already broke the "dead actor CGIed into a movie role" seal. With AI, they can use whichever dead actor they want. I think Sky Captain may have been the first modern movie to do it, using footage of Laurence Olivier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 As an aside, there's a swell from content creators to make sure they don't even inadvertently cross the picket lines and are urging each other to turn down studios aproaching them to scab. A couple creators I follow have even gone so far as to stop using any studio created properties, even tangently, to avoid crossing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I've also heard publicists are canceling podcast appearances for actors, regardless of topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) It really is gonna be "we have no money, and we can't make any money" (actors) vs. "we have a lot of money, but we can't make any more money" (studios). We may have bread, but what happens when there are no circuses? Edited July 14, 2023 by Curt McGirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizium Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 3 hours ago, odessasteps said: I think Sky Captain may have been the first modern movie to do it, using footage of Laurence Olivier. Was that before or after Fred Astaire danced with that vacuum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I couldn’t remember when that or the … Judy Garland? … ads happened, thats why i said movie. ‘’google tells me the Fred Astaire ad was 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I believe the first modern use of using a dead celeb in something new was Humphrey Bogart in an episode of Tales from the Crypt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcVc6K4EvW0 I've been listening to a lot of AI songs lately (which is a whole different can of worms with dead artists) and it's scary how good the technology is right now. All you need is processing power and a prompt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianS81177 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) The Bogart one was the first thing I remember. Bogart was also briefly shown in Last Action Hero (one of the scenes at Slater's police station) but I think the Tales from the Crypt was first. Edited July 15, 2023 by BrianS81177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 When was the Bruce Lee Nokia commercial produced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, Control said: When was the Bruce Lee Nokia commercial produced? 2008 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 And there was that Steve McQueen mustang advert in a corn field around the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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