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Casey

Casey

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Just now, christopher.annino said:

We've had two, right? I could be wrong... but Mox and Storm were both challengers before shit changed.

Sammy & Mox were interim champions, and both were former TNT and World champions.

And even still, Mox wasn't set up as a challenger for Punk when he got injured.

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COLETTI

COLETTI

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Just now, Casey said:

Sammy & Mox were interim champions, and both were former TNT and World champions.

And even still, Mox wasn't set up as a challenger for Punk when he got injured.

I totally forgot about the TNT belt, good call. 

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They gave away that it was either MJF or Cole under the hood by having the Joker stand next to Stoke and only be an inch taller. 

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just drew

just drew

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Just now, L_W_P said:

I'm giving this show a solid 'meh'.

Triple H era got Tony spooked.

Except the ple main event finish yesterday was fucking dumber than anything TK did on this show. 

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MKERyan

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Easily my least favorite AEW PPV ever.

Some real questionable booking all night. Lee/Swerve over Acclaimed, Jericho over Danielson, Hobbs over Starks, the Jungle Boy/Christian non-match. 

Could’ve just been a burned out crowd, but the MJF return and reveal both seemed to have fallen super flat.

 

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Casey

Casey

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Just now, just drew said:

Except the ple main event finish yesterday was fucking dumber than anything TK did on this show. 

Yeah I was just about to say this. Triple H fucked up a World title, TK only whiffed a tag team title match. Not really comparable, and TK is like McMahon in the sense that he's pretty set in his ways about what he has booked unless his hand his forced by injury or something else.

I paid $20 for this show, and I more than got my money's worth with that trios tag title match and stuff like Toni Storm and CM Punk winning. But I can understand why people would feel let down if they spent $50 on this show. It didn't hit the highs of last year's show, that's for damn sure.

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porksweats

porksweats

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5 minutes ago, MKERyan said:

Easily my least favorite AEW PPV ever.

Some real questionable booking all night. Lee/Swerve over Acclaimed, Jericho over Danielson, Hobbs over Starks, the Jungle Boy/Christian non-match. 

Could’ve just been a burned out crowd, but the MJF return and reveal both seemed to have fallen super flat.

 

Hobbs Over Starks is because this is the start of the feud, can only go bigger here. Starks will quickly regain the momentum with a promo, Hobbs was in a no-lose situation.

Curt McGirt

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I guess everyone else fell asleep now haha

Anyway this was great and the chat was really fun. If I can remember the small bits:

- PAC sounding like a 1600s Admiral in the British Navy

- SCISSOR ME TIMBERS

- Taz speculating on what Swerve was gonna do when he had one of the Acclaimed in a hold and then was just like "oh, a backbreaker"

- One of us saying Kenny was "the mayor of Titty City" (DENNIS System? Who's that now?)

- Me saying Kip Sabien looks just like Dominic Monaghan

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Casey

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Just now, porksweats said:

Hobbs Over Starks is because this is the start of the feud, can only go bigger here. Starks will quickly regain the momentum with a promo, Hobbs was in a no-lose situation.

To add to this: Jack Perry (fuck you JR) vs Christian went the way it did because Christian is actually injured.

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Hector

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The formatting in this company frustrates the hell out of me. Like I don't know how you don't do Jericho/Danielson early on knowing is gonna be a grindy, slow technical match. Switch that up with the trios title match, which was supposed to be a marquee match anyways. Also, not super thrilled with the return of the weekly MJF monologue. 

eikerir

eikerir

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How many chops and headbutts were there tonight? 

 

Ladder match was an absolute mess with most spots making zero sense. People opting to build silly structures instead of going for the win when there was no one around drove me crazy. Ending bit took forever too.

 

Loved the Trios Title Match and Tag Title match even though the teams I didn’t want to win, won. I screamed at quite a few near falls in these two matches they really got me many times.

 

Absolute AJ Starks baby.

 

Loved the crowd being pro-Hayter and also showing the often overlooked Alex Reynolds some love with their chants.

 

That bump by Jungle Boy was one of the worst I’ve ever seen, straight up murder by Luchasaurus.

 

 

Bryan kicked Jericho’s ass so much tonight, he looked like an absolute beast before the bullshit ending.

 

Main event was pretty great and I liked how the crowd support for Mox kept growing through the match. Nice tease and huge GASP from the crowd for the early GTS.

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JLowe

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21 minutes ago, The Natural said:

I'd have called an audible.

100%, and from a booking stand point no reason you couldn’t do it (versus, say, having to keep Jade’s streak).

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NoFistsJustFlips

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I hope TK doesn't plan on running Chicago again for a long while. He kept dangling the carrot for them then pulling it away. I almost feel like tonight was some 4D chess meta booking to help MJF get over as a face. But I know that's wishful thinking.

-The execution of the Joker deal was really poor. Like I get having seen the whole thing unfold where they were coming for. But just clunky. Someone else can get the object down and hand it to someone else for the win? MJF looked like the magician secret guy. The lyrics to that song make sense in context but the actual music was about the dumbest choice for what was unfolding.

-I thought Jade and Athena was Jade's best match. (Not counting Cody / Shaq).

-Trios title match was amazing. Loved it all. Loved Kenny being jacked. Hated the whole hurt tshirt fake out stuff leading to this tho.

-So here's where shit goes wonky. Acclaimed should have went over. It really pissed off the audience that they didnt. Then Hayter should have went over. It really pissed off the crowd when she didn't. Then the Christian / Jungleboy thing was executed fucking amazingly well. And I loved it as a part of a longer story. But after the crowd was already mad you jobbed out another very popular homegrown guy for a WWE act. Again. Then Jericho beats Danielson. Sting beats House of Black. Just seems so... tone deaf. Like I don't imagine this was all done on purpose. But if it had been I'd give credit for being ballsy enough to sacrifice your A market for the sake of an anti management story.

-Punk winning played out exactly like I laid out in that post Dynamite thread after the loss. Letting Mox win and legitimizing his reign with a squash was a thank you, but Punk was always walking out of this show champion. The MJF reveal was real good. But I'll be very curious how they walk the tight rope on the story going forward. You don't want to make AEW the in story heel. Because those lines will blur and just like the Mr McMahon character / Authority story, the fans will buy in enough and make it super easy to actually turn on you.

Some great matches with some very questionable booking stuff tonight.

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Craig H

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I thought things were going pretty good until the finish of the tag match left the crowd and myself deflated. I said this in chat, but if I could have changed two things, it would be pulling the trigger on the Acclaimed winning and having Hayter win. The Acclaimed losing took the energy out of everything. 

Then that Sting/Darby/Miro vs House of Black match happened and that was fun as hell with a really good finish. I actually loved that finish.

And the main event fucking rocked. I pretty much knew the mystery guy was MJF based off of the way he entered the ring, but paying off the long term booking is nice and I'm interested in seeing where things go from here.

$50 well spent.

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Casey

Casey

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To pour salt into the wound ? CM Punk is the first person to pin Jon Moxley clean in AEW (sorry Lance Archer)

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MKERyan

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5 minutes ago, porksweats said:

Hobbs Over Starks is because this is the start of the feud, can only go bigger here. Starks will quickly regain the momentum with a promo, Hobbs was in a no-lose situation.

Still say Ricky needed the win more. Have Hobbs get his heat back in a post-match attack to further the angle.

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punkenhead

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Jamie Hayter was the absolute star of the women's four way. I agree that Hobbs needed the win more than Starks, but that one hurt. The ladder match had some moments, and I was glad to have been proven right as to what Stokely was recruiting for the past weeks. I did not see The Acclaimed and Joe getting the biggest non-CM Punk pops of the night. The Acclaimed are super over, but are they over enough to not NEED the titles?   

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S.K.o.S.

S.K.o.S.

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4 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said:

Hey, Punk is going off on Colt Cabana in the press conference

Whichever media guy actually asked Punk about Colt is my new hero.

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Casey

Casey

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1 minute ago, S.K.o.S. said:

Whichever media guy actually asked Punk about Colt is my new hero.

This is straight venom, holy fuck. I wonder what EVP he's talking about.

EDIT: Guess it's Hangman???

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