Matt D Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 It's funny that the Robinson backbreaker (which he obviously didn't invent because this footage is from when he was 19!) just sort of disappeared after the early 80s. Buddy Rose used it as his finished in Portland and it's just GONE after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Matt D said: It's funny that the Robinson backbreaker (which he obviously didn't invent because this footage is from when he was 19!) just sort of disappeared after the early 80s. Buddy Rose used it as his finished in Portland and it's just GONE after that. Bobby Eaton was using it in the 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt D said: It's funny that the Robinson backbreaker (which he obviously didn't invent because this footage is from when he was 19!) just sort of disappeared after the early 80s. Buddy Rose used it as his finished in Portland and it's just GONE after that. I will not have you slandering King Slender in this fashion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, Edwin said: Bobby Eaton was using it in the 90's. You're right. It was less of a signature spot of his than the swinging neckbreaker though. Anyway, let's finish this one off: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapRef41N93W Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 OK now that gutbuster might be my new favorite. I wish I lived in the alternate universe where backbreakers and gutbusters became ubiquitous instead of destroyers and crummy suicide dives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I think the backbreaker itself has disappeared, unless it's still prevalent in all the CMLL and AAA I never see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I believe the only person who still uses standard back breakers is Roderick Strong. you still see the tilt-a-whirl back breaker lots though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, MapRef41N93W said: OK now that gutbuster might be my new favorite. I wish I lived in the alternate universe where backbreakers and gutbusters became ubiquitous instead of destroyers and crummy suicide dives. One of my all-time favorite spots is Dean Malenko's avalanche gutbuster. If I had to choose between that move an any random move on the apron for things that look devastating, give me the gutbuster...and probabl a whole lot safer to do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) I wish there was a place I could hear Matt discussing all this French wrestling. Oh, right, there is. http://tinyurl.com/winterpod83 Edited April 10, 2020 by odessasteps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Yikes... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, supremebve said: One of my all-time favorite spots is Dean Malenko's avalanche gutbuster. If I had to choose between that move an any random move on the apron for things that look devastating, give me the gutbuster...and probabl a whole lot safer to do. Just don't post your arm like Jerry Lynn (as Mr. JL) did during the Christmas Nitro episode in 1995. Got a nice little broken arm out of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Dick Togo's tope atómico is the best. And yes, that's Bryan Danielson on the other end. Unfortunately Danielson spends most of the time working opposite Katsushi Takemura and Togo opposite Kaz Hayashi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Was rewatching this today. Remembered Nigel having a series of wicked lariat variations. Despite being a Nigel showcase to the Noah fans for the most part, it was one of the better Kotaro singles matches I can recall seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Alex Hammerstone said on twitter that he used to be all about the Backbreakers, but he had to cut them out because they were messing his knees up. So that might be why nobody does them any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Probably, but no offense to Hammerstone, he looks like he misses leg days often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edwin Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Here's a great looking backbreaker from Bryan Danielson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Wait, where’s the rest of that gif? So much disrespect to KENTA’s protégée AKA Davey Richards by not showing his spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: Probably, but no offense to Hammerstone, he looks like he misses leg days often. Yeah.... no: Spoiler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Mmmmmm... Call me D.Z.netico, but that is some nice “boobage”. Edited April 10, 2020 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) Some cool stuff next week with Jack Laskin (will get to that later; he had an interesting life and wrote a book that none of us have read) but the JIP match is Ami Sola vs Paul Debusne. Sola we've seen before though that was against Bibi and this is against more of a goony stooge and played for laughs. Case in point: There was a lot of meanness too, though it was pretty catty really. Right before this, Debusne ran Sola into the corner on a slam and punched him in the crotch a couple of times. This is his revenge. And immediately after the stooging is a Sola foul kick. Right before this, Sola flipped Debusne so he was trapped in the ropes and peppered in punches and knees. Debusne gets no respect from the ref: After this is Pierre Bernaert vs Laurent Dauthuille . Bernaert was a boxer so I'm really interested to see the strikes there. (EDIT: Ok Dauthuille was the boxer and that makes a lot more sense when watching the match) Edited April 10, 2020 by Matt D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt D Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) I'm happier for knowing about Dauthuille, for knowing we have a match of his, and for seeing this footage of him vs Jake LaMotta and coming so close to his belt (see the end of the post). A lot of the match is building up to him throwing fists into Bernaert's face and Bernaert staying live with dirty tricks and leg dives, BUT, he could still do stuff like this: When he does get him, it goes like this: I would not want to mess with this guy: Edited April 11, 2020 by Matt D 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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