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Next Sunday, July 7th in Charlotte, NC.  I am seriously considering making the 4 hour trip for this show & attending the Meet and Greet for Jushin Thunder Liger.  need to complete my Super J-Cup trifecta of (Great Sasuke, Ultimo Dragon and  Jushin Thunder Liger).  It is at the same venue that they held the NJPW-USA Show back in February.

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6 hours ago, EricG said:

So, I wonder which one of the performers on the show have HIV and Hep C? 

The original articles dont seem to cite anything based on a specific diagnosis. Playing devil's advocate, this could just be something as simple as "a concerned citizen" (aka a rival promoter) sending photos of bloody wrestlers to the health department saying "hey you should look into this" and a generic advisory being sent out. 

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1 hour ago, clintthecrippler said:

The original articles dont seem to cite anything based on a specific diagnosis. Playing devil's advocate, this could just be something as simple as "a concerned citizen" (aka a rival promoter) sending photos of bloody wrestlers to the health department saying "hey you should look into this" and a generic advisory being sent out. 

and of course Jim Cornette running with that and turning it into "hardcore and deathmatch wrestling" is going to be the downfall of western civilization

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With AEW running Daytona beach tomorrow night, Frank Goodman is having a show in Orlando under the USA Pro banner. It's headlined by Teddy Hart vs Harry Smith along with guys like Scott Steiner, Shane Douglas, Jack Swagger, and a bunch of other guys. I'll be at the show and its mostly sold out. The match I'm most looking forward to is the DVDVR offer match: Vordell Walker vs Dan Maff.

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4 hours ago, Tim Evans said:

With AEW running Daytona beach tomorrow night, Frank Goodman is having a show in Orlando under the USA Pro banner. It's headlined by Teddy Hart vs Harry Smith along with guys like Scott Steiner, Shane Douglas, Jack Swagger, and a bunch of other guys. I'll be at the show and its mostly sold out. The match I'm most looking forward to is the DVDVR offer match: Vordell Walker vs Dan Maff.

Vordell keeps getting better each year. So happy my local indie,Bayou Independent Wrestling,has Vordell as their champ. 

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3 hours ago, Tim Evans said:

Yes except they don't use ticket sellers anymore since the incident in New York. Now they just use Pablo Marquez's students to sit in the back and heckle guys and start chants.

What incident in New York.

Lots of deep south indies will have students/guys not booked for the show sit in the back and heckle the crowd. 

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7 hours ago, bobholly138 said:

What incident in New York.

Lots of deep south indies will have students/guys not booked for the show sit in the back and heckle the crowd. 

Yes, do tell ... 

EDIT: The hot dog incident ...? I'm trying to look up anything on Google and there's too much drama to even narrow it down. 

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The incident i'm thinking of is some trainee getting injured and Goodman having to move to Florida till the heat died down. They are back in New York in August with the Rock N roll express.

Fun show tonight. They drew a big crowd that started to leave after the 3rd hour. It started at 7:30 and didn't end till 11:30 with no intermission. Classic Goodman. They had some no shows(James Storm, Manny Fernandez) so they switched the card around. My favorite match was Teddy Hart vs Ricky Martinez. Hardly anyone knew who Teddy was but he won over the crowd at the end. Shane Douglas wrestled and didn't look too bad. Got weird when he started announcing the Triple threat and mentioned Chris Benoit. Scott Steiner was also there and he's sad to watch. Can barely walk. Vordell/Maff wasn't bad but the finish was disappointing. They went outside in the pitch black and it ended with Maff getting locked in a trunk and driven off by Bruce Santee.

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On June 7, 2019 at 7:08 PM, West Newbury Bad Boy said:

 

Just got finished watching WrestleRama 3 and while Walter/Starr didn't quite live up to my very high expectations, it was still a damn good match. Also dug Scotty Davis/Darby Allin despite the fact that I think Darby works best against monsters.

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On 6/24/2019 at 6:32 PM, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

I just signed up for IndependentWrestling.tv. Now, I haven't seriously followed indie wrestling since the early 2000s. I've skimmed bigger shows and cherry picked a handful of matches. Can I get some suggestions on what to watch on here? Any promotions that I need to start following? I am pretty much open to any style. I'm not super familiar with WOS-style stuff but if there is a current promotion doing it, I'd check it out. I'll be honest, lately I've been watching a lot of FMW, W*ING and the old Eastside Connection comps Wes put out, if that gives you an idea of where my head is at. Thanks in advance. If it derails the thread and a mod prefers it, PMs are welcome.

Watch any and every match you can featuring Biff Busick, Timothy Thatcher and Drew Gulak.

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On 6/24/2019 at 11:32 PM, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

I just signed up for IndependentWrestling.tv. Now, I haven't seriously followed indie wrestling since the early 2000s. I've skimmed bigger shows and cherry picked a handful of matches. Can I get some suggestions on what to watch on here? Any promotions that I need to start following? I am pretty much open to any style. I'm not super familiar with WOS-style stuff but if there is a current promotion doing it, I'd check it out. I'll be honest, lately I've been watching a lot of FMW, W*ING and the old Eastside Connection comps Wes put out, if that gives you an idea of where my head is at. Thanks in advance. If it derails the thread and a mod prefers it, PMs are welcome.

Zona 23 is basically the sleaziest form of lucha extrema. So it's very, very good.

I haven't watched HEAT-UP but I know IWTV has been working on bringing quite a few Japanese promotions to the service so it's worth supporting. And also the six people who do watch swear that Yu Iizuka is the future and he's a self-professed Volk Han fanboy so they must be right

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37 minutes ago, reiwaterrorist said:

Zona 23 is basically the sleaziest form of lucha extrema. So it's very, very good.

I haven't watched HEAT-UP but I know IWTV has been working on bringing quite a few Japanese promotions to the service so it's worth supporting. And also the six people who do watch swear that Yu Iizuka is the future and he's a self-professed Volk Han fanboy so they must be right

I was actually just watching Zona 23 and yeah, it's sleazy as hell and I love it. It's got the same cheap thrill factor of IWA Deep South with lucha elements so it's much better. I saw a highlight video on someone's Youtube and that pretty much sealed the deal for me. 

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1 hour ago, HarryArchieGus said:

Could anybody recommend some Michigan, Upstate NY and Ontario indies?  Or more so the best unsigned/independent (non: AEW, Titan Sports, Impact, ROH) performers in said regions?

 

From watching it on the Fite Network, Toronto's Smash Wrestling.

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On 7/3/2019 at 3:06 PM, HarryArchieGus said:

Could anybody recommend some Michigan, Upstate NY and Ontario indies?  Or more so the best unsigned/independent (non: AEW, Titan Sports, Impact, ROH) performers in said regions?

 

For Ontario, I'll say Smash Wrestling, Greektown Wrestling and Superkick'd out of Toronto, Alpha-1 out of Hamilton, C4 out of Ottawa and Destiny Wrestling from Mississauga. All feature a mixture of local talent and indy "names". Aside from the potentially better known people like Mike Bailey, Lufisto and the Dark Order, the best local talents are:

Josh Alexander- Just signed with Impact Wrestling. Has been the best all around worker in the area for years. Injuries, fatherhood and visa issues slowed him down for a bit but he's back full time and is just as good as when he left

The Pillars- This is a group consisting of Tyson Dux, Tarik, Brent Banks and Sebastian Suave. Dux is a little bland promo wise but has been one of the best guys in the whole country for years. Can have a great match with anyone and has been key in the growth of the younger generation. Tarik is the best striker in Ontario. His chops and kicks sound like they kill guys. I put him as the best in the province once Alexander retired but now they are neck and neck. Brent Banks is one of the best high flyers in the country and is finally being noticed outside of Canada, getting some bookings in the UK. Suave is "The Endorsement", shilling products for his manager/agent Kingdom James. He's a good worker but is more of a heel then the other 3 and while good, not as good as the other 3.

Psycho Mike- Fucking hilarious. Recently started a gimmick when he's feuding/teaming with his own conscience. Witty and creative, he's also jacked and is a really good in-ring talent to go with the gimmick. Also recently split with his old tag team partner Pepper Parks and just completed a tour for DDT. He wrestles Orange Cassidy this Saturday night for Smash which is going to rule.

TDT- Mathieu St Jacques and Thomas Dubois are 2 French Canadian lumberjacks who are an excellent tag team, can fly and brawl and look like 2 guys who'll fight you to the death

The Space Pirates- Space Monkey and Shane Sabre. As @Matt D once pointed out, Space Monkey seems to be the new successor to El Generico. He too has a ginger beard and does a comedy gimmick but he gets better every time I see him, is a great high flying babyface and utilizes his gimmick extremely well. Sabre started a few years before and took a little while to find his footing but he has turned into a solid hand and him and Space Monkey mesh well, they either currently hold or held 3-4 different promotions tag belts in Canadian and US indies.

Channing Decker- usually teams with Trent Gibson in The Fraternity but has expanded into a singles career, primarily doing hardcore/deathmatch wrestling. His style might not be for everyone (Canadian destroyers off of ladders through tables etc) but he's a good worker, bumper and pretty charismatic too. He co-runs Greektown Wrestling with Gibson

KillScreen- Scotty O'Shea and Mark Wheeler. O'Shea has been around for about 15 years now. Has a hacker gimmick including a keyboard as a weapon. Used to be the biggest babyface in Ontario but turned evil and emoish but is still a great worker. Wheeler is only a few years in but is already up there when it comes to the better Ontario talent. Learns quickly and gets better every match

Vanessa Kraven- appeared in the second Mae Young Classic but got bounced in the first round. Known as "The Mountain" she is imposing and a very hard hitter. I'm literally shocked she hasn't signed anywhere yet as she is a million times better than Nia Jax and a billion times better than Tamina

The Buffalo Brothers- a group of Pepper Park's students. Puf is 400 lbs and mostly a comedy character but is good for his size and experience. Kevin Bennett does a heel rapper gimmick and just won the Smash Wrestling title. He's a good talker and great at getting heat but his in-ring work ain't that great to me so I'm not looking forward to his title reign. Daniel Garcia aka Red Death just came back from a car crash that all 4 Buffalo Brothers were in. He fucked both his legs but managed to come back. He's already a really good submission and mat wrestler. Kevin Blackwood also just returned from the car crash. He's more of a high flyer who will bump huge and has a good look but his in-ring isn't quite there yet.

RJ City- The Midnight Special. Has a tremendous asshole lounge singer gimmick and is the best talker in the country. Tons of charisma and can back it up in the ring. Should be signed somewhere.

I could keep going with others (John Greed, Cody Deaner, KUSH, Matt Angel, Kobe Durst, KC Spinelli, Jody Threat) and I'm definitely forgetting some but there is a fantastic amount of talent in Ontario.

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