The Nature Boy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Yeah but Vince also runs a corporation that I assume employs people of diverse backgrounds. People forget that the on-screen portion of WWE, while important, is but a portion of WWE's business. Wrestling has always had racist and xenophobic gimmicks, that's one aspect of wrestling that Vince sadly retained for a while. And well, I see all of that and raise you Vince bringing in Jack Swagger and Zeb Coulter as heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mattdangerously Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Vince is only a Republican because he's an old, rich, white guy. Any racism or xenophobia inherent in the company is because he's a wrestling promoter, and wrestling has generally been racist and xenophobic for decades. Vince's majordomo for years was a gay man, so he's definitely got some liberal views as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Look, all we really know about Vince when it comes down to it is that he has very strong feelings about hillbillies. Let's just move on. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Vince McMahon is only a Republican because Amos Tuck hated people who sneezed too, and it just so happens that Jefferson & Madison were always sneezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 If we really want to follow Vince's politics: http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/09/wwe-chief-executive-linda-mcma/ The power couple’s top recipient? The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, to which Linda donated $15,000 between 2006 and 2007. The McMahons have also given $13,300 to Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) and his leadership PAC since 2006. The Republican Party of Connecticut ranks as the couple’s third highest beneficiary. The party has received $13,000 in contributions from the McMahons since 1992, of all which have been under Linda’s name. The fourth highest: The Republican Leadership Council PAC There's also this: Next up? Rahm Emanuel, the former senior adviser to President Bill Clinton, former DCCC chair and former Illinois Congressman who is now President Barack Obama’s chief of staff. Since 2002, Linda has given Emanuel and his leadership PAC $7,800. They also gave money to Rick Santorum's Senate campaigns but he used to actually work as a lawyer for the WWF so that's not surprising. It's somewhat humanizing that Vince would give money to his former lawyer's political campaign. I don't see Vince has a political zealot. Aside from Linda's Senate runs, I see him as a largely apolitical rich guy who probably has socially liberal views but is a fiscal conservative much like most New England rich people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The above article is out of date obviously. Vince himself donates rarely but Linda has given money (in this cycle) to Jeb Bush's Super PAC and Carly Fiorina. Surprisingly they do not seem to be supporting (at least financially) Donald Trump. Pre-Senate run, as shown above, they gave money to candidates on both sides. After the Senate run, it's been straight giving money to GOP establishment candidates and to state party committees. I am very bored, okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 This is all fascinating and super interesting, and proof as to why we need a political subforum again and that political talk (done the correct, civil way) can actually work. Also, Jason Jordan is for sure a future World Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 How the fuck is the Rock more Samoan than black? He has one Samoan mother, and one black father. Does he have a third Samoan parent we don't know about, or did you study mathematics under Professor Steiner? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Let's not have THAT conversation again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Its always been an awkward point that Vince has never had a black WWE Champion. The Rock is more Samoan than black and the World title runs given to Mark Henry and Booker T came in the "Double Title" era when the World Title was basically the IC title. They could still salvage Big E, Jason Jordan has potential and Apollo Crews should get there one day. Maybe... Oh, give me a fucking break. Literally 12 people probably pull that "Rock isn't black on a technicality" bullshit and actually believe it. And Mark Henry and Booker T's title reigns were so awesome, I literally couldn't tell you who had the other belt when they were champs (Cena? Orton?.) Both of them took what they had and not only did they fucking run with it, the bookers ran with it too. You act like when they were "given" it (which, wait, what?), that they were then treated like they were Rey Mysterio. Mark Henry murdered everybody and King Booker was far and away the champion I actually remember. Sorry. Done. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The above article is out of date obviously. Vince himself donates rarely but Linda has given money (in this cycle) to Jeb Bush's Super PAC and Carly Fiorina. Surprisingly they do not seem to be supporting (at least financially) Donald Trump. Pre-Senate run, as shown above, they gave money to candidates on both sides. After the Senate run, it's been straight giving money to GOP establishment candidates and to state party committees. I am very bored, okay? I hate doing it as one of the other New Englander sports fans here, and I feel dirty, but better we beat them to it: Of course the guy with a Tom Brady avatar would find ways to hide Vince McMahon's friendship with Donald Trump as not guaranteeing he's voting for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Its always been an awkward point that Vince has never had a black WWE Champion. The Rock is more Samoan than black and the World title runs given to Mark Henry and Booker T came in the "Double Title" era when the World Title was basically the IC title. They could still salvage Big E, Jason Jordan has potential and Apollo Crews should get there one day. Maybe... Hi Bill Watts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 This is all fascinating and super interesting, and proof as to why we need a political subforum again and that political talk (done the correct, civil way) can actually work.No. I like this board specifically because it doesn't suffer this horseshit lightly. Let's not allow it to devolve into the comment sections on The Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Do you ever wonder if Trips and Steph keep a running list of people they will fire when they get control of the company? If so, do you think it includes all of the writing team, or just most of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Definitely have a shit list with an obvious #1 at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I don't think it's an actual formal list which will lead to immediate mass executions. But... yeah, kinda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Do you ever wonder if Trips and Steph keep a running list of people they will fire when they get control of the company? If so, do you think it includes all of the writing team, or just most of it? Do you mean the writing team system that Stephanie implemented as Head of Creative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Do you ever wonder if Trips and Steph keep a running list of people they will fire when they get control of the company? If so, do you think it includes all of the writing team, or just most of it? Do you mean the writing team system that Stephanie implemented as Head of Creative? How many current writers are still there from the time she was in charge? Aren't most of them wearing out their podcast welcomes telling the same stories over and over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie M. Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Do you ever wonder if Trips and Steph keep a running list of people they will fire when they get control of the company? If so, do you think it includes all of the writing team, or just most of it? Do you mean the writing team system that Stephanie implemented as Head of Creative? How many current writers are still there from the time she was in charge? Aren't most of them wearing out their podcast welcomes telling the same stories over and over? Probably very few of them but it's basically still the same creative process. Maybe Hunter is anti-writing team but I doubt the concept of "hollywood writers" would be on Stephanie's hitlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorceressKnight Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Do you ever wonder if Trips and Steph keep a running list of people they will fire when they get control of the company? If so, do you think it includes all of the writing team, or just most of it? Do you mean the writing team system that Stephanie implemented as Head of Creative? How many current writers are still there from the time she was in charge? Aren't most of them wearing out their podcast welcomes telling the same stories over and over? Probably very few of them but it's basically still the same creative process. Maybe Hunter is anti-writing team but I doubt the concept of "hollywood writers" would be on Stephanie's hitlist. In addition to that, just the fact it's been said that the NXT writing team has flipflopped a few times between NXT and Smackdown, with no noticable change to the quality of Smackdown and marginal changes to NXT's quality, it's not even that obvious that the "Hollywood writers" would be the problem. Heck, with these issues, it might be more plausible to say "There could very well be some Hollywood writer who's ideas make Heyman and Cornette look like amateurs, but his ideas never get past Vince McMahon's rebooking" than "the Hollywood writers killed the show." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Mark Henry certainly could have, at least 50% shot he gets it at some point. Booker T was doomed by being WCW- 0% chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think you have missed my point entirely. Firstly, Yes The Rock is half black. We are all aware of that. However he represents himself much more with pacific island culture than black culture. Go through his social media and look at all the times he busts out a grass skirt or talks about his Samoan background and tattoo. Secondly; I never said that Booker and Henry got treated like Mysterio. I said that they had World title runs at a time when that belt was seemingly held in a lesser light that the WWE Title. Would either of them have been a champion if there was only one 'WWE World Title' as it is today? I dont believe Vince is walking around backstage ranting like Hulk Hogan or Donald Trump. Im just saying that there has never been a black WWE champion and, given the demographics of the US, that feels like an odd thing to have never had. Your point, which everyone understands clearly, is "The Rock doesn't count as a black champion because he's not constantly talking about how he's half black." Your point is shit, and you should shut up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Can we also not ignore that Samoans are non-white and that Vince is trying to push one down our throat? A truly dedicated racist would not be feeding us Roman Reigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'm just wondering how Pedro Moralas was white. Also, its not like Rock wasn't using his old man's ring name for like, his entire WWE career or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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