NikoBaltimore Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Holy fucking fuck that is sad. I feel the tiniest bit bad for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It has to be terrible advertising. I've been to three TNA events in Virginia, one of them being a house show, and all had really solid attendance. Not sellouts but nothing to sneeze at. So either its bad advertising or they are going to areas that just don't have a ton of wrestling fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVanderlay Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Here are the results from last nights TNA Live enet and some crowd photos http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/tna-live-event-9-17-results-ec3-vs-matt-hardy - Singles Match: Tyrus defeated DJ Zema Ion.- Tag Team Championship Match: The Wolves © defeated Manik and Abyss.- Singles Match: Gail Kim defeated Awesome Kong.- Street Fight: Tommy Dreamer defeated Eli Drake. - Triple Threat King of the Mountain Championship Match Bobby Roode © defeated Drew Galloway and Ken Anderson.- TNA World Heavyweight Championship Match: EC3 (with Jeff Hardy) defeated Matt Hardy. "Another sell-out crowd of over a thousand fans packed Michael's on 8th Avenue for the latest event produced by Maryland Championship Wrestling..." or "Buddy Landell and Doug Gilbert headline a spectacular all-star extravaganze as Dennis Coraluzzo brings you NWA New Jersey..." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 So either its bad advertising or they are going to areas that just don't have a ton of wrestling fans. I think it was Bobby Heenan who talked about in an era of 9-11 wrestling stories generally come off as dumb and weak. I mean I know WWE isn't Breaking Bad or Mad Men, but that's the level of content they are up against. In comparison, the WWE is still lurking in the kids pool. So given all the public lying done by Dixie and cohorts, and as Meltzer said, who in the world would ever want to work for/with/hire these people? It's one thing to fail at a business, it's another thing entirely to successfully manage to shrink your company multiple times over a decade while showing no growth. Seriously, besides being rich, how did Dixie keep that company a float? I mean if Heyman had had her resources ECW would probably still be on air today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 In a sense ECW is on the air right now in the form of NXT. Take away the faux reality bullshit they did for the first couple of seasons and when FCW/NXT became a promotion within it self it was carrying on the torch of ECW. Not a direct relative, but a distant cousin (kinda like John Goodman in King Ralph). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMax46 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 NXT is the version of TNA that TNA always wanted to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 That won't really be true until at least the fourth storyline about an evil, invading stable trying to take over NXT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 NXT is the version of TNA that TNA always wanted to be. Except that NXT loses money too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yeah, but there's a difference between a loss leader and a horribly managed business plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 besides not shitting on a hotel room floor Are people still acting like Pat Buck has any credibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What are you talking about? Wrestling promoters are world-renowned for their scrupulous honesty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I was making a joke. But here is some Sabu vs A-1 to remember the good old days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 A-1. Man, how did that guy never explode in the ring? He was enormous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I talked to A-1 at am indie show once. Absurdly nice guy, like the way over the top nice guy Canadian stereotype. And he was physically beaming when people were praising a TNA segment where Team Canada did a mock funeral for.... Somebody? Dudley's, maybe? It was like 9 years ago, I don't remember. But anyway, he was just so proud and happy that the people talking to him enjoyed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I talked to A-1 at am indie show once. Absurdly nice guy, like the way over the top nice guy Canadian stereotype. And he was physically beaming when people were praising a TNA segment where Team Canada did a mock funeral for.... Somebody? Dudley's, maybe? It was like 9 years ago, I don't remember. But anyway, he was just so proud and happy that the people talking to him enjoyed it. To be fair, someone praising a TNA segment is probably pretty rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Here are the results from last nights TNA Live enet and some crowd photos http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/tna-live-event-9-17-results-ec3-vs-matt-hardy - Singles Match: Tyrus defeated DJ Zema Ion.- Tag Team Championship Match: The Wolves © defeated Manik and Abyss.- Singles Match: Gail Kim defeated Awesome Kong.- Street Fight: Tommy Dreamer defeated Eli Drake. - Triple Threat King of the Mountain Championship Match Bobby Roode © defeated Drew Galloway and Ken Anderson.- TNA World Heavyweight Championship Match: EC3 (with Jeff Hardy) defeated Matt Hardy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Here are the results from last nights TNA Live enet and some crowd photos http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/tna-live-event-9-17-results-ec3-vs-matt-hardy - Singles Match: Tyrus defeated DJ Zema Ion.- Tag Team Championship Match: The Wolves © defeated Manik and Abyss.- Singles Match: Gail Kim defeated Awesome Kong.- Street Fight: Tommy Dreamer defeated Eli Drake. - Triple Threat King of the Mountain Championship Match Bobby Roode © defeated Drew Galloway and Ken Anderson.- TNA World Heavyweight Championship Match: EC3 (with Jeff Hardy) defeated Matt Hardy. At what point will Jarrett or whoever realize their money is better spent on pretty much anything else at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMax46 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hernandez was released from Lucha Underground. Somewhere at TNA. There is someone wondering if they can splice all the BDC footage back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 LOLTNA, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 At this point wouldn't any money mark with an ounce of common sense invest in ROH instead? But then again, then they wouldn't be a money mark, I guess. .. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 NXT is the version of TNA that TNA always wanted to be. Except that NXT loses money too. I'm not sure how anyone could really know that - take NXT off the network and I am confident WWE would lose a good amount of subscription numbers. And how do you quantify the value that WWE gets from having guys work NXT before coming over to the main brand? I think to make the judgement that NXT is losing money, you have to at least attempt to separate NXT the fed from the seemingly hundreds of people they have training at the Performance Centre. And bear in mind that the investment required to tour as they are now doing will be recouped over time. Ultimately the whole thing is also valuable as a training ground for HHH to prepare to take over from Vince, which protects the value of the company over time. But even discounting that, NXT looks like it's doing okay to me. HHH doesn't have the plurality of options available to him that Dixie once had, so the comparison of profits isn't completely fair anyway. In other words, apples & oranges. But apples are actually better than oranges right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yeah, but if you look at how much money NXT literally brings in versus how much it costs to operate, they're losing money. That doesn't mean it isn't a great long-term investment for all the reasons you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yeah, but if you look at how much money NXT literally brings in versus how much it costs to operate, they're losing money. That doesn't mean it isn't a great long-term investment for all the reasons you mentioned. But the question still stands when it's said NXT is losing money is that the promotion or the promotion+preformence center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Promotion and Performance Center combined, I believe. I think they count ticket sales and such as a way of offsetting the PC overhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yeah, but if you look at how much money NXT literally brings in versus how much it costs to operate, they're losing money. *shrug* I guess, but it's not really got anything to do with anything. If you made conservative estimates to the worth of NXT to Network buys, the worth of giving guys like Rollins, Charlotte, Banks & Rollins a TV platform to hone their acts etc, then I doubt you're going to see 'NXT' the fed as losing money. The 'literally brings in' number doesn't hold any import. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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