HumanChessgame Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 16 hours ago, AxB said: Did you hear about that Scottish guy who drive 300 miles (to London) to see the premier of Suicide Squad, didn't like that all of the Joker scenes from the trailers weren't in the movie and asked for a refund? The cinema staff laughed at him, so he's suing the studio for false advertising. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 One of the victims of the WB layoffs went in on Kevin Tsujihara via open letter. http://www.pajiba.com/think_pieces/an-open-letter-to-warner-bros-ceo-kevin-tsujihara-about-layoffs-zack-snyder-and-donuts.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 That British guy isn't suing jack crap. He's just whining on Reddit. There's no actual lawsuit to speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Saw Suicide Squad last night and it was.... not so good. I basically enjoyed it, but I've fine with big dumb action flicks in the summer. We saw Jason Bourne two nights ago and thought it was a lot better. The interesting thing about Suicide Squad is that I didn't really get the impression that Ayers shot a better movie and the studio ruined his vision. I didn't pay much attention to the trailers, so I dunno what scenes made the trailers but not the movie. I can believe the studio interfered and removed the Joker scenes. Joker really has no reason to be in this movie. He keeps popping up for reasons that seem completely divorced from the rest of the movie, then disappears, then reappears in the final scene. But, then, Joker has no reason to be in this movie in the first place since he is neither part of the Suicide Squad nor involved with Amanda Waller or the bad guys. Honestly, I thought this movie was completely generic. Half the Suicide Squad has no characterization (I'm amazed that Croc and Boomerang survived instead of being used as cannon fodder), the villains are completely generic with no characterization, and the plot is pretty generic stuff. I didn't even think the action scenes were especially good. The action scenes boil down to guys shooting faceless monsters lots of time. I was kinda amused that Enchantress and her brother basically have the powers of gods, and the final showdown boils down to people shooting each other over and over. They took the comic book conventions too seriously. It really seemed like they piled a lot of set pieces on top of each other and didn't spend time developing the characters or the plot or figuring out how to pace the movie. The sequence with Joker highjacking the helicopter was cool and all, but they bookended it with two other action sequences and the whole thing felt like a video game. Oh, and as much as I liked Will Smith in this, you'd have to try to move the character farther away from who he is in the comics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligerbusa Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 21 hours ago, (BP) said: One of the victims of the WB layoffs went in on Kevin Tsujihara via open letter. http://www.pajiba.com/think_pieces/an-open-letter-to-warner-bros-ceo-kevin-tsujihara-about-layoffs-zack-snyder-and-donuts.php Devin Faraci says he's heard nothing but good things about Wonder Woman, he'd be tearing into it if he hadn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Patty Jenkins (WW's Director) was also pretty pissed about those comments and gave some type of response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 It's your typical response, though. Claiming the rumor isn't legit because there's no sources, no one intimately involved have said such things, etc. I'm not taking a side one way or another until the movie comes out, but playing devil's advocate here, if the rumor was true and people internally within the movie's production and WB were saying these things - no chance in hell Jenkins would actually come out and say "yeah, that's true, people are saying that - but wait and see for yourself". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 On 8/11/2016 at 2:02 AM, Jerome Miller said: Oh goody, I can't wait for all the threads that will get derailed when someone says a movie is bad and then Zeidler chimes in that Man of Steel 2 was worse and than Zeidler's enemies go after him and a ten page flame war erupts and RIPPA has to lock the thread. And it won't even be a superhero film discussion, it'll be a thread about Dolby Digital vs. Dolby Pro Logic or something. Can't wait. I've already got some smug, above-the-conversation images locked and loaded. FWIW, I liked the things Margot Robbie was doing in this. I didn't care for Leto, but more time to flesh his nonsense out and some decent direction in the Affleck flick could easily change my opinion. Everything else was a black hole. This reading of Waller in particular did nothing for me. Not sure what Croc did here to secure himself "bad guy" status. Same goes for Slipknot, but I'd hate to be accused of quibbling over minutiae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Casey said: It's your typical response, though. Claiming the rumor isn't legit because there's no sources, no one intimately involved have said such things, etc. I'm not taking a side one way or another until the movie comes out, but playing devil's advocate here, if the rumor was true and people internally within the movie's production and WB were saying these things - no chance in hell Jenkins would actually come out and say "yeah, that's true, people are saying that - but wait and see for yourself". True, but generally rumors of this type of stuff pop up well before the movie is done filming. The closest we had to a problem was with the previous director who was ousted early and replaced with Jenkins. I lean towards bs on this one though anything is possible. The filming not being mess doesn't necessarily mean it will be a good movie anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 9 hours ago, Ligerbusa said: Devin Faraci says he's heard nothing but good things about Wonder Woman, he'd be tearing into it if he hadn't. Did Faraci also not say he was hearing good things about Batman v Superman right before it came out? This is after Hitfix's Drew McWeeny released a video saying it was a mess and WB was scared to death over it? On top of that. Faraci also said he was hearing tons of bad buzz on Daredevil and trashed the show. This was in the midst of receiving a ton of great early reviews and positive buzz with him pretty much being the only guy trashing it. Most of these so-called insiders are full of shit and just spreading bullshit and nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Kevin Conroy, my Batman: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/kevin-conroy-explains-his-problem-with-batman-v-superman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Wonder Woman looks like it could be great, but so far the DC slate has proven that WB's marketing department are better at their jobs than the creatives are at theirs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Croc was a bad guy because he ate people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Slipknot was also a rapist in the Ayer cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 5 hours ago, The Natural said: Kevin Conroy, my Batman: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/kevin-conroy-explains-his-problem-with-batman-v-superman He actually does like Affleck in the role. He mentions it in the original article on ign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: Croc was a bad guy because he ate people. Not saying this wasn't brought up on screen. But if it was, it wasn't memorable to me. They made it clear that Deadshot killed people for money, Boomerang was a bank robber, Diablo was a gangbagger with a firey temper, and Harley was complicit in Mr J's crimes. But I don't remember anything from Croc's intro other than him already being in his subterranean lock-up. If people tell me they mentioned off-hand that Croc eats people, I'll believe it. But my recollection anecdotally suggests it was framed poorly. 2 hours ago, (BP) said: Slipknot was also a rapist in the Ayer cut. Thanks. Didn't know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 A shame we'll never know what part of Waller's plan called for a raping. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 1 hour ago, West Newbury Bad Boy said: Not saying this wasn't brought up on screen. But if it was, it wasn't memorable to me. They made it clear that Deadshot killed people for money, Boomerang was a bank robber, Diablo was a gangbagger with a firey temper, and Harley was complicit in Mr J's crimes. But I don't remember anything from Croc's intro other than him already being in his subterranean lock-up. If people tell me they mentioned off-hand that Croc eats people, I'll believe it. But my recollection anecdotally suggests it was framed poorly. They mentioned it, and as you guessed, it was framed rather poorly. They instead chose to focus on him being bullied by the guards like they did with Harley and Deadshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Just got back from seeing it. I guess the most concise way of putting it is that I'm not sure if it was any good, but I enjoyed it anyway. I liked all the actors, even if Leto seemed a bit meh. Hopefully the deleted stuff will help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 IIRC, Croc eating people was stated by Waller in her voice over of his intro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I almost picked this up at Walmart yesterday. Spoiler But I wisely settled for watching the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligerbusa Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 17 hours ago, TheVileOne said: Did Faraci also not say he was hearing good things about Batman v Superman right before it came out? This is after Hitfix's Drew McWeeny released a video saying it was a mess and WB was scared to death over it? On top of that. Faraci also said he was hearing tons of bad buzz on Daredevil and trashed the show. This was in the midst of receiving a ton of great early reviews and positive buzz with him pretty much being the only guy trashing it. Most of these so-called insiders are full of shit and just spreading bullshit and nonsense. I can't remember him saying anything positive about BvS. Quote Most of these so-called insiders are full of shit and just spreading bullshit and nonsense. That's probably a good description of the "former employee" as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Except DCEU released two of the worst reviewed comic book movies of all time back to back this year. All sorts of reports to damage to the brand, damage control, trying to fix everything, re-structuring. Where there is smoke, there is fire. I think they would've been better off ignoring the letter, but Patty Jenkins responding to it gets it even more attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 One would assume they also removed most of the Joker scenes from Suicide Squad because of the criticism that BvS got for being "too dark" or "gritty", and then meddled in the film and did reshoots to make it more lighthearted. The "damage" from BvS rolled downhill and affected Suicide Squad, who knows if it did the same for Wonder Woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligerbusa Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 3 hours ago, TheVileOne said: Except DCEU released two of the worst reviewed comic book movies of all time back to back this year. All sorts of reports to damage to the brand, damage control, trying to fix everything, re-structuring. Where there is smoke, there is fire. I think they would've been better off ignoring the letter, but Patty Jenkins responding to it gets it even more attention. It would have been better to ignore it but even if the letter is legit, it's not like the employee isn't taking every opportunity to trash WB. They got canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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