Spritenaut 32 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I don't hate the Aquaman costume, but it looks not at all like something a guy who spends a lot of time in water would ever wear. Does he strip down as he runs towards the nearest body of water? I'm questioning how technologically advanced Atlantis can be if they haven't figured out the concept of the wetsuit yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I thought that the BvS Superman was a pretty big departure from the Man of Steel Superman. I LIKED the MoS Superman. I mean, really liked where they went. By the end of that movie, Superman has found himself, he understands his place in the world, he's ready to be the hero the world needs, even if it means stepping on the toes of the military. Then in BvS, he's back to doubting himself, he's unsure of himself, he's even mopier (and I argued a ton that Superman wasn't mopey or "emo" in MoS), and by the end, he's on a suicide mission. It's just so wildly inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, Craig H said: I thought that the BvS Superman was a pretty big departure from the Man of Steel Superman. I LIKED the MoS Superman. I mean, really liked where they went. By the end of that movie, Superman has found himself, he understands his place in the world, he's ready to be the hero the world needs, even if it means stepping on the toes of the military. Then in BvS, he's back to doubting himself, he's unsure of himself, he's even mopier (and I argued a ton that Superman wasn't mopey or "emo" in MoS), and by the end, he's on a suicide mission. It's just so wildly inconsistent. For me, it felt like Snyder moved past the Jesus analogy from MoS to something a little more vague about politics and social activism; you'll never make everyone happy, and your actions could have unintended negative consequences, but if you're acting in good faith and believe in what you're doing it's important to continue to try to positively change your world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I think a lot of that was accomplished in MoS, so I, like many others I think, expected Superman to be more like Superman in BvS. You know, all of the truth, justice, and the American way stuff. Here's some other food for thought...If MoS weren't about Superman and if BvS weren't about Batman and Superman, I think some of BvS is a little easier to swallow. MoS has a compelling story there about an humanoid alien with godlike abilities and how that being fits in with lesser beings and decides that he wants to be a figure for good. That story I think also works just fine for Superman. In BvS though, I think a compelling story is there as well about how humanity reacts to this being, doubts it, and in some cases outright rejects it, and how that being responds to that feedback and responds to a man who wants to try to destroy this godlike being. Unfortunately, that story is garbage when you make it about Superman and Batman while adding in a wildly cartoonish character like Lex. Some deviation from the source material is fine, but BvS is such a departure from that source material. Just some additional thoughts I had after re-watching BvS recently primarily because my daughter loves Wonder Woman and wanted to see her. I didn't show her the whole movie, but she dug all of the Wonder Woman stuff I showed her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I agree with a lot of that Craig. I think when I watched the Ultimate Edition I knew going in it wasn't what I wanted a Batman or Superman movie to be, so I could try to find the silver lining. I do think Clark came off better in the UE due to simple stuff like Spoiler Showing him rescuing the wounded victims of the bombing instead of just showing him standing around crying and moving to the next scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I do like that in the UE, Superman still...makes...his...ultra...slow...descent...to...ground...level at the capitol building. Maybe, just maybe, people wouldn't fear you as much if you didn't loom over them so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 There was an interview published prior to the release of BvS that said they were going for a lighter tone in Justice League and yeah there will be some who think this was because of backlash but whatever the case, Flash is a dude who usually provides some levity. Justice League is always lighter than Batman in Gotham so I hope they do stick with this approach. I think Ezra is a great young actor and I think he's going to kill it. Wonder Woman seems to be a lot of fun wherever she is in this movie or her own movie. Hopefully SS will be good. DCEU has a chance to get back on the right track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 The SUICIDE SQUAD embargo lifts tomorrow. Should be an interesting day on the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I'm expecting it to be good, although the marketing and merchandising has been tacky. I know that's a weird thing to say about a comic book property movie, but I think I've reached "Old Man Yells at Cloud" when it comes to Hot Topic t-shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 36% on RT with 25 reviews in. Bummer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's looking like "Pockets of great fun but extremely uneven as a movie." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Read a few reviews.....doesn't sound good. Probably going to skip it in the theater and wait for it to hit cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I am going to see it in theaters and judge for myself. The reviews seem to punish SS for not being a Marvel film and I think it is suffering from the shade thrown at BvS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligerbusa Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's got Batman and it's a Will Smith summer movie where he talks about saving the world. There's nothing a critic could write that will keep me from seeing it this weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Miller Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 45 minutes ago, Matt D said: It's looking like "Pockets of great fun but extremely uneven as a movie." Which sounds about right considering David Ayer's filmography. I re-watched "Street Kings" yesterday and nowhere in that film did I see anything that would make me go "Hey, this guy should be directing a $175 million super hero epic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Even the positive reviews admit the story is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, (BP) said: It's got Batman and it's a Will Smith summer movie where he talks about saving the world. There's nothing a critic could write that will keep me from seeing it this weekend. Funny. I dont think there's a review that could get me to see it, even for free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Sorry but when everybody heard about all the reshoots to make it more Deadpool and Guardians and less Batman v Superman (which of course they denied), did anyone really think this was going to be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: Funny. I dont think there's a review that could get me to see it, even for free. My standards for an excuse to get a giant cherry coke and shove popcorn in my face for two hours are incredibly low. I've also been higher on movies the critics haven't cared for this summer anyway so Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligerbusa Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 A lot of Joker stuff was removed, like Harleen stopping his car, pointing a gun at him and Joker slapping her. And this scene.. and this one.... Sounds like they made their relationship somewhat lighter in reshoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Why would you remove the selling point? Yeah Quinn is a selling point also but it's Joker, that's what people want to see. What's going on at WB?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 A reshuffling, a repositioning to heighten profits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ligerbusa Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I'm guessing Joker abusing Harley didn't sit well with test screenings. Other stuff sounds like the type of fill in the blank scenes that should be in the movie but again, would end up in an Ultimate Edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Most of the reviews I've read say the Joker's involvement is extraneous, so I would wager any of his stuff that was cut was because it had nothing to do with the actual plot of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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