BloodyChamp Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 I thought it was supposed to be not-finely-tuned similar to, say, Colonel Mustafa or Kane in later years for whatever heat or comedy it was worth. I’ve watched that whole thing several times over the last few days. That promo is right up there with the Warrior’s plane hijack promo, Savage Cream of the Crop, Flair in his underwear etc in the so seriously taken and sold, yet so silly it’s epic department.
odessasteps Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 Watching 85 Continental, it seems like, sometimes, it seems like boomer H Lynch does some kind of accent that could maybe be taken as South African.
Zimbra Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 So back around 2001-02 I remember buying a wrestling magazine that was basically a directory of all the indy feds in the country organized by state. I think it was an annual thing from one of the Apter mags. Does anyone else remember this and what it was called?
Shartnado Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Zimbra said: So back around 2001-02 I remember buying a wrestling magazine that was basically a directory of all the indy feds in the country organized by state. I think it was an annual thing from one of the Apter mags. Does anyone else remember this and what it was called? Could it have been The Wrestling Digest? I've never read one myself, but I did see an ad for it in a few Apter mags. Although, by 2000 I no longer had a subscription, so it could have been a newer thing that I'm not aware of. 1
Zimbra Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Shartnado said: Could it have been The Wrestling Digest? I've never read one myself, but I did see an ad for it in a few Apter mags. Although, by 2000 I no longer had a subscription, so it could have been a newer thing that I'm not aware of. Thanks for the lead! Unfortunately it's hard to google because it turns out there are a lot of wrestling magazines with similar names.
thee Reverend Axl Future Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 Try looking through Apter mags from the time period. If it was a Weston publication, there will be plenty of ads for it. - RAF
Peck Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 Barry Horowitz... a graduate of the Terry Garvin School Of Self-Defense. Who knew? 2
Shartnado Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Peck said: Barry Horowitz... a graduate of the Terry Garvin School Of Self-Defense. Who knew? Who told you that? Gorilla? Well, later on he did have hand-prints on the back of his trunks. I thought that was referring to the "patting himself on the back"-gesture that he did, but now I'm not so sure! 3
Shartnado Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Zimbra said: Thanks for the lead! Unfortunately it's hard to google because it turns out there are a lot of wrestling magazines with similar names. Yeah, that isn't exactly original, but I hope eventually figure out the name.
Shane Posted January 11, 2021 Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 7:15 PM, Zimbra said: So back around 2001-02 I remember buying a wrestling magazine that was basically a directory of all the indy feds in the country organized by state. I think it was an annual thing from one of the Apter mags. Does anyone else remember this and what it was called? They had their yearly "Almanac and Book of Facts" Found a pic of the covers from that timeframe, in case one looks familiar... Spoiler
Shartnado Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Shane said: They had their yearly "Almanac and Book of Facts" Found a pic of the covers from that timeframe, in case one looks familiar... Reveal hidden contents I still have a couple of those! They were awesome!
Zimbra Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 19 hours ago, Shane said: They had their yearly "Almanac and Book of Facts" Found a pic of the covers from that timeframe, in case one looks familiar... Reveal hidden contents This was a really good thought but I don't think it's it. As I recall the magazine was just the listings of feds with blurbs of varying lengths about some of them. Thanks! Honestly I'm only looking because I remember seeing a picture of the Worst Title Belt Ever from a fed in Oklahoma so I've probably already put more energy into this than is necessary or healthy.
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Zimbra said: This was a really good thought but I don't think it's it. As I recall the magazine was just the listings of feds with blurbs of varying lengths about some of them. Thanks! Honestly I'm only looking because I remember seeing a picture of the Worst Title Belt Ever from a fed in Oklahoma so I've probably already put more energy into this than is necessary or healthy. I'm assuming this is what you're looking for, because it's possibly the worst belt I've ever seen. Edited January 12, 2021 by Stefanie the Human
Zimbra Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, Stefanie the Human said: I'm assuming this is what you're looking for, because it's possibly the worst belt I've ever seen. Holy cats, I can't believe you found that! Its a little different than I remember but that's definitely it. Thank you! How did you find it, anyway?
Curt McGirt Posted January 12, 2021 Posted January 12, 2021 Gotta love the G.I. Joe heel faction. And light heavyweight champion, Ichiban!
Guest Stefanie Without Stefanie Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Zimbra said: Holy cats, I can't believe you found that! Its a little different than I remember but that's definitely it. Thank you! How did you find it, anyway? I had downloaded a handful of old magazines on a lark a couple of years ago, and that was one of them. It's the December 2000 issue of Wrestling Superstars. It's also the only one I kept because the indie guide has some genuinely strange stuff in there, such as one promotion that lists themselves as having cards that are half-wrestling and half-shootfights, then proceeding to explain that one of the shootfighters got his tooth chipped on a bowling ball after winning a tournament. Also, a tag team listed as the "4:20 Express". 2000 was a different time.
Zimbra Posted January 13, 2021 Posted January 13, 2021 19 hours ago, Stefanie the Human said: I had downloaded a handful of old magazines on a lark a couple of years ago, and that was one of them. It's the December 2000 issue of Wrestling Superstars. It's also the only one I kept because the indie guide has some genuinely strange stuff in there, such as one promotion that lists themselves as having cards that are half-wrestling and half-shootfights, then proceeding to explain that one of the shootfighters got his tooth chipped on a bowling ball after winning a tournament. Also, a tag team listed as the "4:20 Express". 2000 was a different time. Yeah, indy wrestling is great. It turns out almost everything Oklahoma Pro did is on youtube, including after they changed their name to Tornado Pro Wrestling. And it is absolutely some indy-ass indy wrestling. Lots of guys in shiny shirts, trampoline ring, every show is in a bowling alley or a bar (except for one that was in a salon?). And all of the title belts are complete dogshit. I love it. Thank you again, you have made me very happy. 2
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 Quick question for anyone who was around at the time: What promotions other than GWF and AWA aired on ESPN? Ive found a few sources online saying USWA and WCCW but mostly just reddit threads, nothing too concrete.
odessasteps Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: Quick question for anyone who was around at the time: What promotions other than GWF and AWA aired on ESPN? Ive found a few sources online saying USWA and WCCW but mostly just reddit threads, nothing too concrete. Yes to both. 1
Tim Evans Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: Quick question for anyone who was around at the time: What promotions other than GWF and AWA aired on ESPN? Ive found a few sources online saying USWA and WCCW but mostly just reddit threads, nothing too concrete. Herb Abrams UWF did for a while on ESPN classic. And I swear I remember mid south airing on the channel on Saturday mornings back in the early 2000s
J.H. Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Tim Evans said: Herb Abrams UWF did for a while on ESPN classic. And I swear I remember mid south airing on the channel on Saturday mornings back in the early 2000s Wasn't that the Sklar Brothers doing their MST3K thing with sports shows? James
Eoae Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 16 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said: Quick question for anyone who was around at the time: What promotions other than GWF and AWA aired on ESPN? Ive found a few sources online saying USWA and WCCW but mostly just reddit threads, nothing too concrete. The four you mention all ran on ESPN. The only other promotion I can recall is UWF (Herb Abrams version). In the mid-90's, ESPN2 aired edited versions of existing Fury Hour episodes. The original episodes were 60 min long; ESPN edited them down to 30 min. IIRC, they ran the show five days a week and only had a small number of episodes, so they burned it out fairly quickly. Same eps ran on ESPN Classic years later. 1
clintthecrippler Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 My memory of the ESPN timelines is that AWA ran from Fall 1985 through its closure at the end of 1991. And then World Class Championship Wrestling joined the lineup alongside AWA in July 1986, at least thats how I remember it, joining in after Kerry already had his motorcycle accident. I have in my head that at the time the ESPN show was a one-week delayed airing of the already-existing nationally syndicated show. And World Class evolved into USWA over time, while also picking up daily ESPN slots for old footage through the "Legends of World Class" series. The main USWA series on ESPN was always from Dallas, except for the few months that Jarrett stopped running Dallas during the second half of 1990. But even then, we never got Memphis studio stuff on ESPN, it was dedicated TV tapings in the Tennessee area just for the ESPN slot. They also filled out several weeks of TV with the big USWA World Title Tournament from the Mid-South Coliseum that Mark Callous competed in between the WCW run and becoming The Undertaker in WWF. Once Jarrett moved back into Dallas at the beginning of 1991, USWA continued on ESPN until the summer, when GWF took over Dallas and the ESPN deal, starting out its with four original episodes per week in the Monday through Thursday afternoon slots with footage from weekly TV tapings. I believe that continued well into 1992, before becoming one original episode and repeats throughout the week, before wrestling finally disappeared from ESPN sometime in 93ish, and then GWF basically continued as a glorified Dallas indy for a while with local TV 3 1
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, J.H. said: Wasn't that the Sklar Brothers doing their MST3K thing with sports shows? James Cheap Seats def played at least one UWF episode, but I wasn't sure if it ever aired outside of that either until @Eoae confirmed above Edited January 24, 2021 by Zakk_Sabbath
Eoae Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 I really dug the ESPN shows when they first aired. Up to that point, I had really only seen WWF and JCP/WCW (I started watching JCP on TBS shortly before it was rebranded). I really didn't realize there were other promotions in the US, much less overseas, so it was kinda new watching AWA and Global and seeing mostly wrestlers I had never seen before. And Legends of World Class was basically my first exposure to the Von Erichs, Freebirds, Bruiser Brody, etc. Later, i watched more territories wrestling and got smartened up to the fact that the ESPN shows were basically what was left after Vince and Turner raided their rosters and reduced them to shadows of their former selves. That diminished the nostalgia hit for me, but I still have a later-day WCCW and GWF and their oddball wrestler of "should have never been" stars ("Maniac" Mike Davis, babyface ace Eric Embry and his real hair color, the Rattler - who was definitely not Jake Roberts under a mask, etc.) 1
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