(BP) Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Was La Parka a secondary luchadore? No real programs or title runs, but he still managed to have memorable moments. El Dandy has to be up there if we’re counting their work outside of WCW (same with Park.) I always thought Damien 666 looked cool, but I can’t remember any specific WCW matches.
zendragon Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Choose your fighter 13 minutes ago, (BP) said: Was La Parka a secondary luchadore? No real programs or title runs, but he still managed to have memorable moments. El Dandy has to be up there if we’re counting their work outside of WCW (same with Park.) I always thought Damien 666 looked cool, but I can’t remember any specific WCW matches. I would split my vote between Psychosis and La parka. I think they had a PPV match against each other but nothing bigger than that 1
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 26 Posted March 26 La Parka and Nicho are first team All Luchadore. People like Lizmark Jr. and Silver King (QEPD) gotta ride the pine.
The Comedian Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, BloodyChamp said: Who was the best luchadore out of all the secondary WCW ones? They were all great tbh. Villano IV probably...
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Ciclope being involved in one of the best WCW moments of 1998 (the end of the cruiserweight battle royale at that year's Slamboree), but not actually being there puts him firmly in the pack. 2 1 1
BloodyChamp Posted March 26 Posted March 26 La Parka was a major player for a short but really hot minute in WCW, as The Chairman. And for a guy his size wow was he good. Outside of that he was a glorified jobber, which I mean as an insult to WCW not him. I would count everything outside of WCW. I know people think alot of El Dandy and Psychosis. Hector Garza did the first corkscrew moonsault I ever seen. Damien and Super Calo were older than everybody else and were great at 1 time IIRC. That hardcore tag match they were in was as brutal as anything else that was truly brutal I know that. The match suffered for other reasons that we’ve done to death. Ciclope’s moment in 1998 was the most WCW thing ever. Almost the same as Starrcade 97. There was uncertainty about a match everybody wanted to see, and right at clutch time it delivered complete with a twist that made it even better. Then the next night they say it didn’t count and the feud dragged on until nobody cared. 1
porksweats Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 hours ago, BloodyChamp said: Who was the best luchadore out of all the secondary WCW ones? They were all great tbh. For me it's Silver King, once the numbers thinned out toward the end he was left to excel. 2
Cliff Hanger Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/25/2025 at 5:49 PM, twiztor said: Atlantis wrestled a couple matches for WCW. They announced him as Lizmark Jr. Ring Announcer, Chyron, and commentators all referred to him as that. WCW Worldwide 11/29/98 Not only that, he's in WCW Mayhem for the PS1 labeled as Lizmark Jr! 1
Cobra Commander Posted March 27 Posted March 27 wondering if a Krav Maga gimmick/character would be a wrestler who would use his/her training to be unusually good at countering some moves For those unfamiliar with the term (and boy, has the last 9 years made using half of that term dicey) Quote Krav Maga is an Israeli self-defence system. Developed for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), it uses techniques derived from aikido, boxing, judo, karate and wrestling. It is known for its focus on real-world situations. Krav Maga was originally developed by Hungarian-born Israeli martial artist Imi Lichtenfeld. Having grown up in Bratislava during a time of anti-Semitic unrest, Lichtenfeld used his training as a boxer and wrestler to defend Jewish neighborhoods against attackers in the mid-to-late 1930s, becoming an experienced street fighter. After his immigration to Mandatory Palestine in the late 1940s, he began to provide lessons on combat training to Jewish paramilitary groups that would later form the IDF during the 1948 Palestine war. As an instructor, he compiled his knowledge and experience into the combat system that would later become known as Krav Maga. This system would continue to be taught long after he left the IDF. From the outset, the original concept of Krav Maga was to take the most effective and practical techniques of other fighting styles (originally European boxing, wrestling, and street fighting) and make them rapidly teachable to conscripted soldiers. although I guess any Krav training to counter chairshots is not official technique
BloodyChamp Posted March 27 Posted March 27 What’s all this Lizmark Jr stuff was he somebody else? Didn’t he wrestle Ric Flair on a Worldwide when Flair was being booked on every show by Bischoff just to make him mad?
(BP) Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, BloodyChamp said: What’s all this Lizmark Jr stuff was he somebody else? Are you thinking of Mr. JL? Because that was Jerry Lynn under a hood.
Cliff Hanger Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, BloodyChamp said: What’s all this Lizmark Jr stuff was he somebody else? Didn’t he wrestle Ric Flair on a Worldwide when Flair was being booked on every show by Bischoff just to make him mad? I don't know if actual Lizmark Jr. ever actually appeared in WCW, but Atlantis was REPEATEDLY mis-identified as Lizmark and never once called by his actual ring name, and the "Lizmark Jr." In the game was wearing Atlantis's mask.
Elsalvajeloco Posted March 27 Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, (BP) said: Are you thinking of Mr. JL? Because that was Jerry Lynn under a hood. Shit, I thought it was Jerry Lawler. 5
Curt McGirt Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I'm going with Silver King and Hector Garza, they were killer wrestlers that never got to show jack. El Dandy got a mention from Bret Hart and seemed to be a bit of a cult favorite with at least the announce team so he's more first-level. I think the tiers would go like this: First Tier: Eddy (duh), Chavito, Rey Jr., Psicosis, La Parka, Juvy, El Dandy, Ultimo Dragon if he counts, Jericho if he counts. Konnan was a heavy. And Vampiro (hahaha fuck you Vampiro). Second tier: Everybody else? Silver King, Super Calo, Hector Garza, Villanos IV and V, Halloween/Ciclope, Damien 666, Lizmark Jr. I was surprised to find that Mascarita Sagrada wrestled there too. It wouldn't be fair to make a third tier. 1
Curt McGirt Posted March 27 Posted March 27 And I'm guessing Atlantis showed up too though I missed him in my run through the Wiki of personnel, or he wasn't there. Any others I may have missed?
SirSmUgly Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) If we're talking "favorite luchador who never got a sniff at a push in WCW," Silver King is my answer. Really fun working big against smaller wrestlers and really fun working small against bigger wrestlers. I love a wrestler who knows how to make themselves bigger or smaller depending on their opponent (it's one of my favorite things about Scott Hall's work). If you count the two weeks' worth of push that Silver King and El Dandy got as the WCW version of Los Fabulosos (managed by Stacy Keibler, no less) as "a sniff at a push," then I think my answer is probably Lizmark Jr. Edited March 27 by SirSmUgly 2
Technico Support Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Shit, I thought it was Jerry Lawler. No no, that was Jack Lalanne 1
Technico Support Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 9 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: wondering if a Krav Maga gimmick/character would be a wrestler who would use his/her training to be unusually good at countering some moves For those unfamiliar with the term (and boy, has the last 9 years made using half of that term dicey) although I guess any Krav training to counter chairshots is not official technique I lived in a crappy small town for a little while (houses were cheaper!) and there was a krav maga studio across the hall from the gym I went to. While the martial art undoubtedly has its place with soldiers and whatnot, I saw these jokers trying to teach bedroom community moms and dads how to disarm someone who has a gun in your face. Look, at that rate, it's probably a better idea to just hand over your wallet instead of thinking boomer dad can somehow become John Wick and snatch a pistol from an attacker without getting shot in the face. Edited March 27 by Technico Support 1
Cobra Commander Posted March 27 Posted March 27 28 minutes ago, Technico Support said: I lived in a crappy small town for a little while (houses were cheaper!) and there was a krav maga studio across the hall from the gym I went to. While the martial art undoubtedly has its place with soldiers and whatnot, I saw these jokers trying to teach bedroom community moms and dads how to disarm someone who has a gun in your face. Look, at that rate, it's probably a better idea to just hand over your wallet instead of thinking boomer dad can somehow become John Wick and snatch a pistol from an attacker without getting shot in the face. okay that sounds a little bit like the Rex Kwan Do gimmick from Napoleon Dynamite 1
supremebve Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Technico Support said: No no, that was Jack Lalanne This is the second day in a row where someone has mentioned Jack Lalanne in my life. I probably haven't thought about Jack Lalanne in 30 years otherwise. 2
(BP) Posted March 27 Posted March 27 60-year-old Woman Who Can’t Open a PDF Takes Apart Mugger’s Gun ‘Jet Li Style.’ 3
Curt McGirt Posted March 27 Posted March 27 58 minutes ago, supremebve said: This is the second day in a row where someone has mentioned Jack Lalanne in my life. I probably haven't thought about Jack Lalanne in 30 years otherwise. JUICE JUICE JUICE JUICE JUICE 2 hours ago, Technico Support said: I saw these jokers trying to teach bedroom community moms and dads how to disarm someone who has a gun in your face. I have a friend whos parents took that shit themselves! That's how I first heard of Krav Maga. 4
just drew Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I took it for years and taught it for a while. Most decent instructors will tell you "give your wallet up. This shit is for when death is a certainty if you don't act." 1
Niners Fan in CT Posted March 28 Posted March 28 I don't know if Blitzkrieg counts but he was awesome and I always looked forward to him popping up in the first hour. 5 1
twiztor Posted March 28 Posted March 28 On 3/25/2025 at 9:42 PM, SirSmUgly said: Nestor's Funky Bowling > Animaniacs Ten Pin Alley. This is entirely true - and I'm one of probably nine people to own Nestor's Funky Bowling for the Virtual Boy (which had TWO bowling games in its American release lineup of, like fourteen games). i am another of said nine to own this game. It was pretty decent as a bowling game. At one point i actually owned all 14 VB games (plus a homebrew release of Hyper Fighting/Street Fighter 2 (with link cable!)). Sold them all off a couple years ago. Can't speak to the comparison, as i never played the Animaniacs bowling game. On 3/26/2025 at 4:16 PM, BloodyChamp said: Who was the best luchadore out of all the secondary WCW ones? They were all great tbh. not the best, but my personal favorite b-team luchadore was Super Calo. 2
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