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Dolfan in NYC

Dolfan in NYC

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Winter is Coming!  So you'd better get a towel! 

But going back to last month real quick.... I could watch this clip all day. ❤️

 

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Dolfan in NYC

Dolfan in NYC

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Oh and supposedly Adam Copeland has been cleared but he's filming right now. 

So, I guess we have that to look forward to.

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twiztor

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does this Continental Classic feel more thrown together and chaotic than last year, or is it just me?

i like the "final four" concept they're introducing, but i don't feel the pull to follow the entire bracket like i did last year.

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EVA

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I feel the opposite. Last year, we didn’t even get the full blocks announced until it started. They at least did the YouTube announcement special a few days beforehand this year.

I think what you’re feeling this year is the lack of main event caliber stars involved. Last year had Dragon and Moxley headlining their blocks, plus Eddie, Jay White fresh off a PPV main event, and an ascendant Swerve.

This year, Blue league doesn’t have a single guy who’s been presented as main event tier. (Yes, that is a knock on how Okada has been presented in AEW for the past 6 months.)

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tbarrie

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2 hours ago, twiztor said:

i like the "final four" concept they're introducing, but i don't feel the pull to follow the entire bracket like i did last year.

I've been meaning to say how much I like the change to the semifinals. Doing intraleague finals for each league after you've just done a round robin felt silly. The crossover semis make much more sense.

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Technico Support

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22 hours ago, twiztor said:

does this Continental Classic feel more thrown together and chaotic than last year, or is it just me?

i like the "final four" concept they're introducing, but i don't feel the pull to follow the entire bracket like i did last year.

 

19 hours ago, tbarrie said:

I've been meaning to say how much I like the change to the semifinals. Doing intraleague finals for each league after you've just done a round robin felt silly. The crossover semis make much more sense.

I personally don't like "semifinals" in a round robin tournament, neither the way they've done it this year, nor the way they did it last year.  There's no benefit to winning your block.  You can go undefeated, beat everyone in your block, and still have to beat some other guy who went like 4-2 or whatever, in order to get to the finals.  I mean it's a little better than last year, where the guy who won the block could conceivably have to beat a guy he already beaten once.  But I still don't like it because every scenario outside of "both block winners beat both runner ups and then face each other" just diminishes the importance of winning your block.

One idea to make additional rounds after "league play" fell a little more fair is if the block winner and two runner-ups advance, and then the runner-ups wrestle, winner faces the block winner for the shot at the finals. Essentially, 2 vs 3, 1 gets a bye.  But you'd need a bigger block for that, because going through all those block matches to only eliminate half the block is lame.  This isn't the NHL.  🤣

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AxB

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1 hour ago, Technico Support said:

 

I personally don't like "semifinals" in a round robin tournament, neither the way they've done it this year, nor the way they did it last year.  There's no benefit to winning your block.  You can go undefeated, beat everyone in your block, and still have to beat some other guy who went like 4-2 or whatever, in order to get to the finals.  I mean it's a little better than last year, where the guy who won the block could conceivably have to beat a guy he already beaten once.  But I still don't like it because every scenario outside of "both block winners beat both runner ups and then face each other" just diminishes the importance of winning your block.

One idea to make additional rounds after "league play" fell a little more fair is if the block winner and two runner-ups advance, and then the runner-ups wrestle, winner faces the block winner for the shot at the finals. Essentially, 2 vs 3, 1 gets a bye.  But you'd need a bigger block for that, because going through all those block matches to only eliminate half the block is lame.  This isn't the NHL.  🤣

He's an NFL guy, an American Sports guy. All of the major US Sports leagues are built around the idea that the league games are nothing but qualifiers for the eventual single elimination 'Playoffs' tournament.

It would have been better if he'd based it off the premier league. No blocks, takes several months, and whoever finishes with the most points just... wins. So there was every chance it wouldn't be decided in the final week. PURE SPORTS BUILD!

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Technico Support

Technico Support

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37 minutes ago, AxB said:

He's an NFL guy, an American Sports guy. All of the major US Sports leagues are built around the idea that the league games are nothing but qualifiers for the eventual single elimination 'Playoffs' tournament.

Oh yeah, I get that.  It's just weird, especially for an NFL guy like TK, to hold a tournament where wining your division gives you zero benefit in the playoffs.

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2 hours ago, Technico Support said:

Oh yeah, I get that.  It's just weird, especially for an NFL guy like TK, to hold a tournament where wining your division gives you zero benefit in the playoffs.

To be fair, they own the Jags. He doesn't have much experience with the playoffs.

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AxB

AxB

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Should have been Hechicero, but this is acceptable.

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ExcellenceofAirPollution

ExcellenceofAirPollution

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1 hour ago, EVA said:

Tony, bud, what are you doing.

Kommander has been tearing it up lately and I advocate a bigger push for him so I think this is a great spotlight.  Sucks that he won't wrestle Ospreay tho 

Obviously sucks that Juice is hurt but he was a really odd choice anyway tbh, both in he doesn't wrestle and/or win very much and he isn't a "workrate" guy (though I like him in-ring).  Very much designated loser G1 booking

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EVA

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Counterpoint: Juice was awesome in multiple G1 tournaments and would’ve been awesome in the C2!

Kommander is fine, but there aren’t many dude in the roster with less, um, juice than him. Just reinforces that the C2 is a midcard tournament this year.

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Shartnado

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Damn, Juice had wonderful chemistry with Ospreay and that match on Collision was way better than I expected. But yeah Komander is more exciting although he's gonna get about as many points in this that Juice would have (so close to zero, probably).

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Casey

Casey

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16 hours ago, EVA said:

Just reinforces that the C2 is a midcard tournament this year.

Always has been. And let’s be completely fair here: it’s for a midcard title. Why that was needed and not just replace eliminator tournaments with this instead is beyond me.

Go2Sleep

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Komander picking right up where Juice left off as the 0-5 guy is very on-brand. I hated Juice in there from the beginning.

Last year, Lethal was the only 0-5 guy I think, although they definitely teased it with Briscoe and Garcia. I think having an even field where a couple of decent names struggle does a lot more for the tournament and even the individuals than throwing in obvious jobbers to pad everyone else's stats.

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AxB

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Lethal going 0-5 under CC rules makes sense, because he's part of the TNA Legends (plus Satnam) stable, that relies on interference to win matches. So Juice doing the same would also have a legitimacy to it, with Bullet Club Gold not being out there. Whereas Komander... now I like Alex Abrahantes (I know other people don't like him, but I do), but he doesn't really help Komander win matches, does he?

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Casey

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I know we don’t like ratings discourse here but honestly what the fuck is going on? Punk getting fired can’t be it, the ratings weren’t super great in 2023. Danielson only just now retired, or whatever. Sting was never that big of a TV presence.

TK put out a tweet earlier this year that said 2024 AEW is the new 2021 AEW. Do we (and him) view that period with rose tinted glasses? It seems like to me that AEW was hot because bringing in big names from WWE (I’m sorry, that’s just the way it is). Are Bryan and Punk some mythical unicorns that can’t be replicated again? I don’t think Kevin Owens jumping to AEW would have the same splash. Punk was an anomaly since he quit and was gone for like 7 years and finally came back to the challenger brand.

I just don’t get why they’re pulling like 400K+ for Dynamite last week, and a total of something like 200K+ for Collision/Rampage. Holiday week and all, but still. They lost half their audience for Dynamite compared to 2023’s episode.

I’m not doom saying, I love AEW, but I just don’t get it. I know their live+ numbers are most likely way better, since that’s also how I consume AEW television, but it’s just weird to me. Probably why I don’t run a television network I guess.

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