Log Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Damn, that was a hot crowd last night. I mean, when the band started on Rosa's entrance, they nearly blew the roof of the place! If I only got the Mox/Danielson/Regal shit every week, I'd still be happy. The Hardyz looked like the damn Skyscrapers in that little ring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Omega took out the ref in the Double or Nothing triple threat. Ref got superkicked in the Ghostbusters match. Probably more refs going down than people realize. Edited March 17, 2022 by John from Cincinnati 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 14 hours ago, The Natural said: Aww. I wonder if her kids will end up All Elite one day? I know at least one has already debuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, A_K said: Ultimately Wardlow simply shouldn't have won the ladder match (Lee probably should have .. that feud with Hobbs is going to be an unproductive one for those two as well .. and Lee probably should have taken the TV title given they already have a host of underdog champions. They're in a bit of a bind now with their title programming, and I expect ratings to suffer somewhat in the near-term tbh). I very much agree with this point. If the plan wasn't to get Wardlow the win, then the ladder match win seems out of place. I understand the grander point you bring up having Scorpio lose after a week long title reign. (And as seen by the reaction to Brock beating champions of color I agree it would receive that kind of attention). But I was looking at it purely from the boosting Wardlow perspective. Him beating Sammy would split the crowd. Him beating an annoying heel that doesn't have cool heat, who also has this long streak, is a good idea. I was picturing Warrior squashing Honky Tony. Honky held the title forever so not totally apples to apples. But the reaction would be similar from the live audience. But when factoring in being under the microscope about diversity and the optics of how that would play out, I get it. But yeah total head scratcher. If you wanted a heel performer of color to get the TNT title I think Hobbs winning the ladder match and beating Sammy would have been much more productive. His feud with Lee now would have some real purpose. And then you don't get into Wardlow being derailed. I think we actually agree on this more than disagree. I was just a dipshit being so bull headed about how I thought the Wardlow win would play out lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 993,000 viewers P18-49: 0.38 (496,000). Viewers went up, the demo went down. Ranked number 6. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Blue Dragon said: 993,000 viewers P18-49: 0.38 (496,000). Viewers went up, the demo went down. Ranked number 6. SO CLOSE! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Jeff Hardy is overrated as a draw. He didn't draw shit in TNA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFistsJustFlips Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: __________ is overrated as a draw. He didn't draw shit in TNA. Fixed that for ya. Put anyone's name in there. Still true. Because no one drew for TNA. Because TNA was TNA. So it's not fair to indite someone over not getting them over the hump. They had a Hulk Hogan debut, nWo runion, RVD, Ric Flair, & Jeff Hardy all show up on the SAME NIGHT and it popped exactly one decent number before everyone was like nah this sow sucks. (Not a shot at any talent. That's a shot at how it was ran and promoted as a brand). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 No one cares about Jeff Hardy in AEW either. His debut got a minor spike in the ratings, but that's about it. No one cares about an over-the-hill Hardys reunion act in AEW. Just slapping them back together again with their old WWE music isn't enough to create magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: No one cares about Jeff Hardy in AEW either. His debut got a minor spike in the ratings, but that's about it. No one cares about an over-the-hill Hardys reunion act in AEW. Just slapping them back together again with their old WWE music isn't enough to create magic. The Hardyz and, separately, Jeff Hardy have top selling shirts in the AEW shop, so you are objectively incorrect. It's fine if YOU don't care about them, but your opinion isn't universal fact, homie. Ratings aren't the end-all be-all, either. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, christopher.annino said: The Hardyz and, separately, Jeff Hardy have top selling shirts in the AEW shop, so you are objectively incorrect. It's fine if YOU don't care about them, but your opinion isn't universal fact, homie. Ratings aren't the end-all be-all, either. This is the wrestling business. Not the t-shirt business. T-shirts are a drop in the bucket. T-shirts aren't going to get AEW a bigger deal from Warner/Discovery. You want t-shirts, cash in your Hot Cash at Hot Topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said: Fixed that for ya. Put anyone's name in there. Still true. Because no one drew for TNA. Because TNA was TNA. So it's not fair to indite someone over not getting them over the hump. They had a Hulk Hogan debut, nWo runion, RVD, Ric Flair, & Jeff Hardy all show up on the SAME NIGHT and it popped exactly one decent number before everyone was like nah this sow sucks. (Not a shot at any talent. That's a shot at how it was ran and promoted as a brand). Also you're wrong. some select people drew numbers in TNA. AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, handful of other guys sold money, PPVs, drew solid TV numbers, and moved tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletti Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: This is the wrestling business. Not the t-shirt business. T-shirts are a drop in the bucket. T-shirts aren't going to get AEW a bigger deal from Warner/Discovery. You want t-shirts, cash in your Hot Cash at Hot Topic. Thank you for the lesson in What Actually Matters In The Biz, clearly you're the ultimate authority. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: No one cares about Jeff Hardy in AEW either. His debut got a minor spike in the ratings, but that's about it. No one cares about an over-the-hill Hardys reunion act in AEW. Just slapping them back together again with their old WWE music isn't enough to create magic. Matt Hardy's hairline is certainly getting deleted. Dressing him up in his late 90s New Brood / early 00s HBoys outfit is a little questionable .. but I guess black is slimming. Overall its a fun novelty (the music esp. conjures a lot of memories) but that's where it should stop. I'm not sure there have ever been nostalgia-tag teams that draw really .. these things tend to fall a little flat. While its an inherently self-referential industry .. the business as a whole seems weakest when its focused on looking back rather than forward (WWE/F always at its height with a young new star at the front of the product for example .. TNA fell flat on its face with its host of old stars etc.). Edited March 17, 2022 by A_K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Did anyone mention the "The best there is" part of the FTR promo? Foreshadowing a Bret return? Also yes, Jericho is in great shape, looks like he's on the special TRT diet Christian and Edge got on before their returns, more power to them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blue Dragon said: Huh. Spoiler 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eikerir Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 19 hours ago, The Natural said: FU CYN. This should be edited into the shows opening ASAP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, Blue Dragon said: Deeb = Needle Pusher, babay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, A_K said: Matt Hardy's hairline is certainly getting deleted. Dressing him up in his late 90s New Brood / early 00s HBoys outfit is a little questionable .. but I guess black is slimming. Overall its a fun novelty (the music esp. conjures a lot of memories) but that's where it should stop. I'm not sure there have ever been nostalgia-tag teams that draw really .. these things tend to fall a little flat. While its an inherently self-referential industry .. the business as a whole seems weakest when its focused on looking back rather than forward (WWE/F always at its height with a young new star at the front of the product for example .. TNA fell flat on its face with its host of old stars etc.). I actually thought transitioning Hardy into more of a manager, part-time worker was a good role for him all things considered for him. I think Tony Khan and Dave Meltzer highly over-estimated the value of having a Hardys reunion run in AEW. Plus, The Hardy Boyz already had their two kind of feel good reunion runs in the last two decades already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 100k fans switched the TV off to have a Private Party. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Ohmyfuckinggodisthatfuckingprivatefuckingparty? I enjoyed that match and I hope they have long-term plans for those two now that they're on their own (I don't see Andrade sticking around with BBB & PP long-term). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 One more graph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jiji said: Ohmyfuckinggodisthatfuckingprivatefuckingparty? I enjoyed that match and I hope they have long-term plans for those two now that they're on their own (I don't see Andrade sticking around with BBB & PP long-term). I agree. The next batch of tag title feuds definitely needs to include some combination of Private Party, Acclaimed, and PnP. The FTR/Bucks/ReDRagon stuff doesn't need the belts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think both The Acclaimed and Private Party need to start winning on TV before anything else. That's step one. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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