KidKash202 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I will be asking a lot of questions fellas. I am new to the family. Really will start following ROH for now on. 1. For those of us that aren't in the viewing zone to see the weekly TV, is there another way I can watch? 2. How was Seth Rollins in ROH? Heel/Face? As polished? And did people know he would make it? 3. What is Cornette's beef with Steen?
cool arrow Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Pretty sure you can watch the TV show on ROH's website.
HumanChessgame Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I don't have my tapes of 02 ROH anymore but I recall Cornio sucking on commentary then too. But like I've said before, I'm ok with him commentating if it keeps him from wrestling. 1
Ace Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 1. Their website. They stream the episodes a few days later. 2. Completely uncharismatic. Not as polished. But popular. 3. Cornette wanted Steen to lose weight while he was "gone". Instead, he ended up gaining weight.
drshowtime Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 #3 is bs Steen was clearly down about 30-40 pounds when he came back in June but they sent him back home yet again since he only had it in his contract to appear at that show and not specifically be used from then on and he just said fuck it Only pic I can find from that show though http://i.imgur.com/KTTb4Dd.jpg
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I'm going to say Cornette was out of touch and would rather push the Headbangers than Steen or Cabana. That's just me talkin out my ass yo. Also, Seth Rollins was not "Completely uncharismatic". HE has come a long way, but I don't think that is a true description of him during his ROH tenure.
Big Fresh Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) & Jimmy Jacobs are still my favorite ROH team. "Completely uncharismatic"?? That's nuts. 1
S.K.o.S. Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 2. How was Seth Rollins in ROH? Heel/Face? As polished? And did people know he would make it? I don't think people knew he would make it at all. I was only watching "best of" comps around that time, but my understanding is that Rollins' breakthrough moment was getting put in a main event match against Danielson sort of out of nowhere, having a very long match, and doing more than enough to hold up his end of it. The general reaction seemed to be "hey, wow, maybe there's more to this guy than we thought" but no one was going so far as to predict major WWE success for him.
Dewar Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Rollins worked heel then face in ROH. Nowhere near as polished as he is now. When he went to developmental, I figured he would not last. He's one guy where WWE developmental really helped him as a worker.
JRGoldman Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Rollins was good in ROH. He had real presence and was already great at selling. I think what people might mean by "completely uncharismatic" is actually "terrible promo", which is true, but he had Jacobs to do most of the talking. In a weird way, his debut in ROH in the Age of the Fall is pretty similar to his trajectory in WWE with his time in the Shield. Initially when compared to his stablemates, he seems as though he is lacking something, but over time he really is able to rise to their level. I stopped following ROH religiously right before his title run, but the impression I get is that the ROH faithful grew tired of him like they have done with basically every champion who held the belt longer than 3 months. I don't really think this was a reflection on him, remember this is the same crowd that would chant "same old shit" at Daniel Bryan in 2005. I do think Rollins has come a long way. I think most people would've seen his ceiling as a Kofi Kingston mid carder/tag specialist/MitB participant during his time in ROH. Now, I think people feel as though he has a real shot to have a really good singles run.
Newb82 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Didn't the RoHbots turn on him after he signed his developmental deal? 1
Nice Guy Eddie Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Didn't the RoHbots turn on him after he signed his developmental deal?It was more that he signed his deal not long after winning the ROH world title.As for his breakout moment, it was his first title shot against Nigel @ Take No Prisoners in March '08. Up until that point, he had primarily been wrestling in tag matches w/ Jimmy Jacobs.
Ziggy Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) & Jimmy Jacobs are still my favorite ROH team. "Completely uncharismatic"?? That's nuts.I know Gabe was burned out duringf that time but I thought '08 was a good year mainly because of Black & Jacobs. Alot of good Tag Team heavy main events that year
Petey Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 2007/2008 ROH was probably their best two years in terms of tag wrestling that they had under Gabe's run. Also, the WrestleMania shows from Orlando in '08 were real good. I remember them having a bunch of good matches and shows in '08, but they also had so many throwaway shows that they couldn't sustain the momentum they built up in '05 and '06.
Patrick B. Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Collinsville show tonight had more angles than I expected. Romantic Touch beat Lethal non-title but it was actually Taven under the mask. Cole cut Elgin's hair and put MsChif in the figure-four...and I'm still not sure if he's dropping the title at the PPV. Lots of overbooking torpedoes fired en route to Cole retaining against Ciampa.
Leviathan West Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Hope that stuff airs on TV in the next two weeks before the PPV. Sounds like some good build.
Newb82 Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 The only way Cole doesn't drop the title at the PPV is if Elgin signs an NXT contract.
Spontaneous Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Yeah, if Elgin loses then they learned nothing from booking Tyler Black's reign. Cole had a good run but he has held it since September last year.
The Man Known as Dan Posted June 8, 2014 Posted June 8, 2014 Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) & Jimmy Jacobs are still my favorite ROH team. "Completely uncharismatic"?? That's nuts. I'll call your Age of the Fall and raise you a Strong & Evans. 1
Patrick B. Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Right after he got those mullet T-shirts, too... I don't know, ROH has SUCH a hard-on for a ) Cole and b ) Elgin not winning the big one. We'll see.
Big Fresh Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) & Jimmy Jacobs are still my favorite ROH team. "Completely uncharismatic"?? That's nuts.I'll call your Age of the Fall and raise you a Strong & Evans. I liked Strong and Evans, but Jacobs and Black did more for me. Side question: does Evans work in the US at all anymore?
The Man Known as Dan Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) & Jimmy Jacobs are still my favorite ROH team. "Completely uncharismatic"?? That's nuts.I'll call your Age of the Fall and raise you a Strong & Evans. I liked Strong and Evans, but Jacobs and Black did more for me. Side question: does Evans work in the US at all anymore? At last check he was primarily working Mexico.
cool arrow Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 He worked those two Stampede-wannabe PPV's last year, which I realize were in Canada, but those are the only recent dates I can find outside of Mexico.
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