Victator Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Hagan said: Braun's feud with Roman Reigns and Big Show this year is better than anything Baron has ever done, except for maybe telling Apollo Crews to go back to Ring of Honor. Braun is bigger, a better promo, and has a legit star aura. Think about the main event at SummerSlam this week and sub out Braun and put in Baron Corbin. I think being on the same roster as Braun hurts guys like Corbin and Cass. Braun is a bigger, badder, better version of Corbin. He is Roadblock to Braun's Giant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Did JBL say something along the lines of this being the first time someone failed with the MITB cash-in? Cause obliviously that's not true, and two of the three men that achieved that feat were right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Well, JBL is an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Green Meanie said: Did JBL say something along the lines of this being the first time someone failed with the MITB cash-in? Cause obliviously that's not true, and two of the three men that achieved that feat were right there. I know Cena failed and Sandow did. But I can't blame him for forgetting those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Well Cena was standing right there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I know I shouldn't get excited, but there's a non-zero chance Shinsuke Nakamura is leaving Summer Slam as WWE champion. They probably could've handled it better, but Corbin with the case was a dark cloud over Smackdown, much like when Sheamus held the case a couple years ago. It was for the best that they got rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehabilitated Rick Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 In a perfect world AJ/Owens with Shane being the enforcer/ref would be for the WWE title and Jinder/Nakamura would be for the US Title, bizarre that it's the other way round. As much as Jinder is finding his footing, Nakamura isn't ready either, do I want to see him as champion? Sure, but WWE Nak outside of the entrance has done nothing to convince me, I envision a Bayley like backlash within 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 hours ago, The Green Meanie said: Well Cena was standing right there... The Cena cash in was a big cop out and was barely talked about at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brysynner Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Hagan said: Braun's feud with Roman Reigns and Big Show this year is better than anything Baron has ever done, except for maybe telling Apollo Crews to go back to Ring of Honor. Braun is bigger, a better promo, and has a legit star aura. Think about the main event at SummerSlam this week and sub out Braun and put in Baron Corbin. The buildup would have better promos. If you had to remove one of the four from the main event who would you remove and make it a triple threat? Braun, Joe, Roman or Lesnar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red is Dead Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Aw man, Corbin's sad stomach is going to be even more sad now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Seriously - this is by far the best use of Ascension 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Brysynner said: The buildup would have better promos. If you had to remove one of the four from the main event who would you remove and make it a triple threat? Braun, Joe, Roman or Lesnar? Roman. In a heartbeat. And I like Roman just fine. If I'm removing a second and making it a one on one, it's Brock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I am just happy that Damian Sandow is no longer alone in his shame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 The Cash-In History (this is via the weird play-list the WWE has on its site so it's not necessarily in order. I also had to piece together the missing ones). I think I got them all Dean Ambrose - Ref waits till champ is on feet first Kane - see the Ziggler description Miz - injured leg champ. Standing for official match (see also, Kane, Ziggler). Match with commercial breaks Randy Orton - pin unconscious champ Seth Rollins - joins mid-match Daniel Bryan - pins unconscious champ Dolph Ziggler - ref waits till Del Rio is on his feet. Ref also asks Del Rio if he is ready RVD - announces cash-in ahead of time Edge (1st Time) - Vince announces cash-in. Bloody Cena is on his feet Edge (2nd Time) - tries to pin unconscious champ (Taker kicks out). Eventually wins Jack Swagger - ref makes sure Champ is on feet first CM Punk (1st Time) - match starts as soon as ring announcement is over (Champ is still on his knees) CM Punk (2nd Time - Ref waits till champ is on feet first Alberto Del Rio - Bell rings when champ is still on mat Sheamus - tries to pin unconscious champ (Reigns kicks out). Eventually wins Damien Sandow - full match (Failed) John Cena - announces cash-in ahead of time (Failed) Baron Corbin - ref makes sure champ will be standing first (Failed) So as per usual with most of their rules - it is all based on how the need suits them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Honestly, they've kinda killed the MitB gimmick by having almost every guy successfully cash-in. The gimmick would be more effective, imo, if there were more uncertainty about cashing in and getting the title. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Victator said: The Cena cash in was a big cop out and was barely talked about at the time. I remember the chatter around the time being that Cena being the first to fail was a big thing because he could survive it without the destruction of his entire career, and...well. 23 minutes ago, RIPPA said: The Cash-In History (this is via the weird play-list the WWE has on its site so it's not necessarily in order. I also had to piece together the missing ones). I think I got them all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_in_the_Bank_ladder_match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I am quite aware of the Wiki - I even used it to remind me who won The point was the conversation was whether guys "were on their feet" or not. Those specifics aren't list there - hence the phrasing of my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, RIPPA said: I am quite aware of the Wiki - I even used it to remind me who won The point was the conversation was whether guys "were on their feet" or not. Those specifics aren't list there - hence the phrasing of my post I meant as far as a reference point for ordering them/making sure they're all there. I'm curious who isn't present on the playlist - did they only include people who still work there? I'm sure Punk is an omission and probably Del Rio, but I fail to see the harm in the inclusion of Swagger and Sandow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 8 hours ago, PetrolCB said: I watch the shows, but become so disinterested in them, that I have no idea what 80% of the storylines are. What exactly is Harper even doing, and why isn't he featured as a killer? I'm guessing "Because Vince" for question two. Same boat as you, fella. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It was no Punk (either time), Sandow, Swagger, Del Rio and Ambrose Now I am pretty sure no Ambrose was because it was made before last year The rest are the no longer there and I guess not on good terms??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevendaughters Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 please stop having Nakamura cut in-ring promos for the love of god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCM Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 11 hours ago, Brysynner said: I'm amazed at the dislike for Corbin but the love for Braun on this board. Corbin is a mediocre worker with a shitty look and no charisma. Braun Stroman is fucking awesome. Hope this clears things up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Brysynner said: The buildup would have better promos. If you had to remove one of the four from the main event who would you remove and make it a triple threat? Braun, Joe, Roman or Lesnar? Brock, he's been phoning it in for a while. If it's 2012-2015 Brock, keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, MORELOCK said: I remember the chatter around the time being that Cena being the first to fail was a big thing because he could survive it without the destruction of his entire career, and...well. The failed cash-in did so much damage to Cena's career and psyche that he's had to go to Hollywood and get steady work in an attempt to prop himself up and stay relevant. Clearly, his life sucks right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 10 hours ago, Victator said: I know Cena failed and Sandow did. But I can't blame him for forgetting those. This was the first failed spontaneous, post-match cash-in. Who knows if that's what JBL was referring to or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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