Niners Fan in CT Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I agree with the sentiments about the Die Hard franchise but hot damn Die Hard with a Vengeance will never not be tons of fun for me. I've watched it countless times and I still love it. Speaking of remakes earlier in the thread, one remake I would not mind seeing would be Backdraft. We need a firefighter movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 1/16/2017 at 4:50 PM, Ace said: Saw Hidden Figures this weekend at my new favorite theatre (It's got recliners!). Everybody in this movie is on point. Janelle Monae's gonna have the crossover career Whitney Houston wishes she had. Saw if over MLK weekend and it was tremendous. I am digging the new trend with Fences to put out Black feel good movies with substance rather than the money grab romantic comedies and family drama that show up on Aspire and Centric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I agree with the sentiments about the Die Hard franchise but hot damn Die Hard with a Vengeance will never not be tons of fun for me. I've watched it countless times and I still love it. Speaking of remakes earlier in the thread, one remake I would not mind seeing would be Backdraft. We need a firefighter movie. The franchise doesn't go downhill until the last two turds. Vengance is pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Die Hard With A Vengeance was all about Sam Jackson. The buddy chemistry between Zeus and John was really good, but the BBEG's dastardly plot was kinda dumb. Live Free or Die Hard had a king sized Timothy Olyphaunt chewing on scenery as a king sized villain but he was saddled with a laughable plot laden with ridiculous and unrealistic actions scenes. We will not speak of the shit burger that was A Good Day To Die Hard. None of those movies had the thing that made the first two movies exceptional aka John McClane as enraged husband going to fucking war because some asshole was stupid enough to put his wife's safety on the line. Truth be told, the implosion of Holly and John's marriage being a footnote in the plot of Vengeance is one of the reasons the movie does not sit well with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I will defend the absurd and complex plot of Vengeance always. Yes, it's totally ridiculous and nigh-impossible to pull off, but it's so damn entertaining. Plus it's set up and enacted by Jeremy fuckin' Irons! I just realized in writing that that Vengeance is basically my favorite spot-fest movie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I can't agree with any argument that puts Die Harder above Vengeance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Austin Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 You even had the crazy lady who was like Karl from the first movie, I don't know why but I liked it when she just went off on that poor security guard when Irons had to stop her and say. "I believe he's already dead" out something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 You also had Tony Halme/Ludvig Borga! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, John Austin said: You even had the crazy lady who was like Karl from the first movie, I don't know why but I liked it when she just went off on that poor security guard when Irons had to stop her and say. "I believe he's already dead" out something like that I always assumed she was the sister of Karl and his brother with the ponytail. Vengeance is fun but it sorta drags on and I never liked the death via helicopter and power line finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Tony Halme in that reminds me of Alexander Koslov's cameo as a thug in season two of The Wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 18 hours ago, Brian Fowler said: I can't agree with any argument that puts Die Harder above Vengeance. It is arguably the second best movie of the franchise and one of the better sequels ever made, but the clumsy manner in which John and Holly's marriage is conveniently data dumped from the universe really felt wrong. The ending also really blew goats. The ending for Vengeance sucks even more than the deus ex machina / let's wrap this up folks destruction of the getaway plane in Die Harder that was only enjoyable because Col. Stuart was awesomely callous (Admit it to yourself.. Your eyes were burning when he deliberately crashed that passenger plane..) and Stuart needed to die as violently as possible. Katya was stellar and she deserved a much better action movie demise than convenient death via helicopter crash created by the most improbable marksmanship ever. Mai Lihn and Thomas Gabriel in Live Free got better movie deaths than Katya and Simon Gruber got in Vengeance. That does not satisfy my sense of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Trivia question I just saw: What movies hold the record for the shortest amount of time between the release of a movie and its sequel? Hint: They're both from 2003 The Matrix Reloaded (May 15 2003) and The Matrix Revolutions (November 5 2003) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Die Harder is like BTTF 2. Wildly overrated by people with terrible taste in movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, J.T. said: (Admit it to yourself.. Your eyes were burning when he deliberately crashed that passenger plane..) I have very, very rarely been truly stunned by a movie but that scene did it for me. Truly shocked that they went there. You could've heard a pin dropping on a mound of cotton in my theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, S.K.o.S. said: Trivia question I just saw: What movies hold the record for the shortest amount of time between the release of a movie and its sequel? Hide contents Hint: They're both from 2003 Hide contents The Matrix Reloaded (May 15 2003) and The Matrix Revolutions (November 5 2003) My best guess Gojira November 3, 1954 Gigantis the Fire Monster April 24, 1955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 IIRC, the FBI or some other organization interviewed the writer for Vengence, because the plot could conceivably worked or somesuch. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 You could argue that the correct answer is Che Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, RIPPA said: You could argue that the correct answer is Che Wouldn't that fall into the category of something like 1900? It's a two part film. And if you do count it, I would like to add Mesrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 @J.T. forgot to mention Justin Long is a key character in Live Free or Die Hard. That right there is enough to call it one of the worst sequels ever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Saw Scorsese's Silence tonight. Interesting, cant say i really enjoyed it and i thought it had flaws at its core. And it really did not need to be 2-3/4 hours long. I need to research on if i had seen some of the japanese actors before. Thought the Inquisidor and the Translator were good. Garfield and Driver, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 The Kurgan? tim roth in Rob Roy? Zod? Pistols Scaramanga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 15 hours ago, S.K.o.S. said: Trivia question I just saw: What movies hold the record for the shortest amount of time between the release of a movie and its sequel? Hide contents Hint: They're both from 2003 Hide contents The Matrix Reloaded (May 15 2003) and The Matrix Revolutions (November 5 2003) Damn, I would've said Breakin' and Breakin' 2, but the Matrix beats them by a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 So instead of using CGI - the folks making A Dog's Purpose basically tried to drown a German Shepard They can go fuck themselves and burn in Hell 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 15 hours ago, Tabe said: I have very, very rarely been truly stunned by a movie but that scene did it for me. Truly shocked that they went there. You could've heard a pin dropping on a mound of cotton in my theater. There were people in my theater that were in tears when McClane picked up the charred remains of the doll from the wreckage of the airplane. I was also surprised that the movie went there, but you can't deny that the scene was very effective in establishing Stuart as an antagonist that was serious and I was surprised how much I wanted vcatharsis and poetic justice by the end of the movie.. Despite all that Hans Gruber had done, I was sorta hoping that John would be able arrest Hans. After all John is a cop and it'd have been nice for the action movie policeman hero to bring the bad guy in alive for a change. That was not the case in Die Hard 2. I really really really wanted Col. Stuart to die as violently as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 THE FUCKING BACKGROUND IS GOING TO BE CG, WHY NOT THE DOG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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