Matt D Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 If I was 20 and in college I'd be all over the Chikara thing probably. I am very much not though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I'm inclined to take some umbrage at the "wrestling fans can't get into ARGs but fans of other media can." I don't really dig ARGs in any form. So, don't overgeneralize to me. And in this particular case, I'm not going to hop a plane to Philly - can't afford it if I wanted to, and don't want to anyway - so I'm not particularly keen to have to wait until some Chikara fan gets on the forum there to post "well that was sumthing," so then I have to start posting questions about "what happened," "then what," "what then," and "I wonder what that's supposed to be a reference to." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietShooter Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 So, to recap for you guys just tuning in: Wrestling fans can't handle alternative reality games, but virtually every person who is a dedicated fan of other entertainment (movies, music) can. Professional wrestling is it's own sub-culture with its own rules and continuity that for a vast vast majority of people that watch, they buy into or "suspend belief" to participate in as fans. Pro wrestling is its own "alternative reality game". I think that if Chikara is going the route of LARP, they are simply limiting their appeal to people that are interested in both pro wrestling, and RPG. Look at it this way: How many of the folks that occasionally pop on Raw and enjoy a couple of beers would even think of watching Chikara to begin with? Now, how many of those guys are gonna read a 78-page thesis about Archibald Peck then check out a Chikara show? Hell, how many of the people that attend Chikara shows (or buy DVDs) are willing to read that 79-page thesis? It is like the opposite of "selling out" - instead of diluting el producto to become more appealing to the mainstream, Chikara is becoming more obscure... which will drive some fans away while giving others giant boners. It is similar to how if you have an indy that runs the occasional bloodbath, and that appeals to a certain loyal segment of the audience...so they turn the violence up to 11, and eventually it is non-stop blood and death matches - which just don't appeal to everyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Incidentally, I was just thinking, "The G in ARG is 'game,' which implies a goal, something that signifies a 'win.'" So what's the win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I guess we'll all just go back to watching our 1983 copy of Florida Wrestling or some shit then, right? It's like nothing can be fun and different, and if it is - well, fuck them for trying to make wrestling entertaining. Sometimes, just sometimes, wrestling fans can be way worse than hipsters or movie snobs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Yes, exactly. Fuck Chikara for making something entertaining that only really appeals to a subset of individuals. Fuck you, Chikara, for not engaging me to my individual preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlk23 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/277879-lanny-poffo-gives-wwe-permission-to-induct-randy-savage-into-the-hall-of-fame In the past, Lanny Poffo, brother of the late Randy Savage, has maintained that Savage's wishes were for the entire Poffo family to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame, otherwise he was not interested in being inducted by himself. In a recent interview conducted for PWTorch.com, Poffo had the following to say regarding his brother Randy Savage being inducted: "I gave them [WWE] permission to do it without my permission. Just don’t invite me and don’t pay me. I don’t need their 30 pieces of silver to defy my brother’s wishes. Kayfabe Commentaries had my best interview regarding the reasons Randy had for this position." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 You did have the fight between the Who fans and ... I think Star Wars fans at a british con. Please tell me there is video footage of this... ... and a late run in by Red Dwarf fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 In other news, so I don't get into a flame war with Nate - Randy Orton versus Goldust is booked for Monday's RAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Good god this thread. I'm with Jae. This extra crap is for those who want to find it, but has/had nothing to do with the enjoyment of watching or attending a CHIKARA show. If you don't like CHIKARA, fine, but I seriously doubt if you get the extra crap would change your opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlk23 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/296752/Brad-Maddox-Announces-Goldust-Will-Appear-on-Raw-to-Fight-For-Codys-Job.htm - An exchange took place on Twitter today, and set up Goldust (Dustin Rhodes) returning to Raw on Monday to fight Randy Orton. If Goldust wins, and Cody Rhodes apologizes, Cody can get his job back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Am I the only one hoping that Dusty and Dustin join up with Triple H and the gang somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overly Critical Man Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I hate the implication made on this page that 1983 Florida wrestling isn't fun and different and entertaining. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnowsWrestling Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 '93 style Dustin Rhodes showing up and beating down cody and joining the corporation as muscle would be cool, though no one would really care 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Daniel Bryan does a run-in to give Goldust the win, but next week on Raw, Cody refuses to apologize and remains fired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Wait, Lanny Poffo gave WWE permission to put Savage in the HOF without his permission? Leaving aside the self-contradictory nature of that statement, couldn't Vince legally (as opposed to morally or ethically) do so regardless of what Lanny wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 If I was 20 and in college I'd be all over the Chikara thing probably. I am very much not though. CHIKARA should be the last thing on your mind if you are 20 and in college. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Wait, Lanny Poffo gave WWE permission to put Savage in the HOF without his permission? Leaving aside the self-contradictory nature of that statement, couldn't Vince legally (as opposed to morally or ethically) do so regardless of what Lanny wants? He could, but there would be likely blowback. It's an old interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Am I the only one hoping that Dusty and Dustin join up with Triple H and the gang somehow? Well I would think they play up the fact that Dusty is a "general manager" for NXT on TV and a much bigger piece of the puzzle off TV. Now that I think about it, I think we need a Brad Maddox for NXT. That would be a perfect spot to bring Naylor back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 In other news, so I don't get into a flame war with Nate - Randy Orton versus Goldust is booked for Monday's RAW.I hope this turns out to be my suggestion of being Cody in disguise (the honeymoon being a work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Wait, Lanny Poffo gave WWE permission to put Savage in the HOF without his permission? Leaving aside the self-contradictory nature of that statement, couldn't Vince legally (as opposed to morally or ethically) do so regardless of what Lanny wants? Yeah, but doing so against his family's wishes wouldn't go over so well. Isn't that also the reason Owen isn't in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 If I was 20 and in college I'd be all over the Chikara thing probably. I am very much not though. CHIKARA should be the last thing on your mind if you are 20 and in college. You're right. I should have been focusing on my grades and not visiting some stupid green message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Wait, Lanny Poffo gave WWE permission to put Savage in the HOF without his permission? Leaving aside the self-contradictory nature of that statement, couldn't Vince legally (as opposed to morally or ethically) do so regardless of what Lanny wants? Yeah, but doing so against his family's wishes wouldn't go over so well. Isn't that also the reason Owen isn't in? Oh god, Martha would have kittens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Territorial Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 This thread has convinced me I'm not part of Chikara's target audience. I don't have a clue what a LARP or an ARG is? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Come on, guy, I plainly spelled out what an ARG was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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