Michael Sweetser Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Exactly where would anyone go at this point? Undertaker's contract came up a number of times during the Monday Night Wars but it wasn't like he was going to WCW at any point. Unless the rumors of New Japan offering millions to guys like Okada to compete with Vince comes to fruition, I can't see anyone competing with the money or the spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 You need to also remember that at the time the smark groupthink was much different than it is now. 10 minutes of inconsequential cool looking movez equated to a well regarded match. Man, I truly wish that we had gotten far away from that, but people all over this board, let alone the rest of the IWC, still go to bat for this kind of shit all the time. There's nothing wrong with with the occasional spotfest. The Young Bucks are fine in small doses. So are hardcore matches. Who wants to watch the same type of wrestling over and over again? Seth Rollins fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I reviewed Sunny's book (and her porn, the review of which was heavily praised by THE BOARD over at f4wonline.com) You can check em out here: http://jojomellon.blogspot.com Spoiler: The book sucks, but does contain one HILARIOUS story about HBK and a certain fetish he had. Bless you, good sir. That review had me laughing out loud. For some reason, 'She blows The Big Guy' had me damn near off my seat. Tammy is blowing Ryback now also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 That must be the Secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 That must be WHY it's a secret. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterien Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I reviewed Sunny's book (and her porn, the review of which was heavily praised by THE BOARD over at f4wonline.com) You can check em out here: http://jojomellon.blogspot.com Spoiler: The book sucks, but does contain one HILARIOUS story about HBK and a certain fetish he had. Bless you, good sir. That review had me laughing out loud. For some reason, 'She blows The Big Guy' had me damn near off my seat. +1. Great review man. "Wheres the Big Bossman when you need him?" being my favourite part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 In the immortal words of Chris Candido, "just don't hurt her, okay?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 If that is the case, then Vince is a more whacked out old man then we could possibly know and him being in charge of a giant company is terrifying. Considering that this is the same whacked out old man who considered it the height of wit to have top level male employees kiss his ass on live tv and have his lead female star bark like a dog, I'm way beyond being terrified and more like morbidly amused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I lost it when the porn review compared sex with Sunny to Ric Flair dragging El Gigante to a passable match. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Would you rather talk about Titus O'Neil some more?Would we discuss Titus' sex life? We would if he was having sex with Shawn Michaels. How do you know he's not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technico Support Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Would you rather talk about Titus O'Neil some more?Would we discuss Titus' sex life? We would if he was having sex with Shawn Michaels. How do you know he's not? I didn't see 8 layers of bright red lipstick on Titus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 not on his face. Shawn just changed positions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Library Dude Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Trinity Mirror, one of the UK's biggest media groups, announced a new daily tabloid newspaper today. Called NEW DAY. Cue relentless trolling. I wonder how long it's going to take until Big E joins in. http://www.theguardian.com/media/mediamonkeyblog/2016/feb/17/new-day-trinity-mirror-wrestles-with-the-daily-newspaper-market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 This might open up a can of worms, but it's 3:30 AM. Why does there seem to be such a big deal made about Blitzkrieg? I just rewatched the infamous/famous match against Juventud Guerrera from Spring Stampede '99, and it's decent-good, but certainly not a ***** blowaway performance. Blitzkrieg never impressed me more than any of the other guys WCW had under contract at that point, and a lot were certainly better. So why the hype? I'm not being sarcastic, as I'd genuinely like to know what others are seeing that I'm not. You do have to remember, you're watching that with 2016 eyes. Juvy & Blitz moved faster than anything I'd ever seen before, drew a crowd into an absolutely meaningless match, and contained completely new (to a 1999 American audience) spots, that were astonishing to watch. I'd say that combined with there being such a small sample size and of course rose-colored glasses. Was he the greatest ever, no, of course not. But in '99 we hadn't been jaded (wrong word, but you know what I mean) by years of high flyers doing insane spots like Jeff Hardy, Kofi Kingston, Seth Rollins, John Morrison, Neville, and on, and on, and on.... Spot on! 1999 we were seeing stuff like Juvi & Blitzkreig doing highspot after highspot at an insane pace, we were seeing Dakko Chan walking up the wall. In retrospect a lot of it was movez for movez sake and had little if anything to do with telling a story in the ring. Basically a lot of the Brit and US guys co-opted a lot of things they saw in the New Japan juniors forgetting about the little things like telling a story and having a logical progression of moves. This was the birth of the 50/50 flippy-floppy highspot stuff that plagues us to this day. Ridiculous, business exposing moves for their own sake. Then to make matters worse, you had idiots like Teddy Hart doing crap that wasn't even associated with a match, (anyone remember his sequence of moonsaults from the top of a cage done strictly for his own amusement?), and of course the next guy would have to play "Can you top this?" Fortunately, a lot of the worst offenders have fallen by the wayside, though there are still a few survivors like Jack Evans cluelessly bouncing around like a demented superball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Blitzkrieg had some awesome multi man matches in his run. I don't remember the dates. They're probably up on the network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 In the immortal words of Chris Candido, "just don't hurt her, okay?" You mean immoral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 There's nothing wrong with with the occasional spotfest. The Young Bucks are fine in small doses. So are hardcore matches. Who wants to watch the same type of wrestling over and over again? There are many things wrong with the occasional spotfest - and in 2016 no promotion in the world is only having them occasionally. There are also many things wrong with hardcore matches. Disliking shitty matches devoid of psychology isn't the same thing as only liking one style of wrestling. You can have a well-thought out bloody brawl without a thousand meaningless weapons shots. You can have a high flying match without everyone involved no-selling or standing around waiting for someone to dive onto them. The Young Bucks specifically get a lot of unwarranted love around here when they deserve to have the same reputation as Davey Richards - the entire issue with them is that there is no such thing as a "small dose." Seth Rollins fans. As I said (more than once, I'm pretty sure) in the nominations thread - I'm not a Seth Rollins fan. I just recognize when someone is baselessly shitting on him because he was main eventing WWE for most of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Not arguing with you, as I don't entirely disagree, but isn't it at least fair to say that it's sort of part of the Young Bucks' gimmick at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 As a reaction to the way that people shit on their matches, maybe. Not because they were "working the marks" all along. And honestly, if "shitty wrestler" is part of your gimmick, your gimmick probably sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTNW Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'm sorry but I really don't see wrestling matches as this great storytelling medium. If certain indy guys knew how to sell, structure their matches and project a character maybe I'd care for their matches. Excess in nearfalls and choice of offence would be big problems with the style as well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 It's entirely the Young Bucks gimmick. And it's great. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Counterpoint: It's business exposing garbage that we should all collectively be embarrassed of. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Ok. I'll just feel the way you want me to feel from now on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I mean, this is a discussion board, you could at least say *why* you like it, instead of chiming in like JBL or something "HA HA IT'S THE BEST" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I wrote something about the Young Bucks. Let me find it. The Young Bucks are the first wrestlers for the internet troll age. I think they understand pro wrestling pretty well. They've leveraged that understanding into a deconstruction of the form that appeals heavily to people under a certain age. They know how to integrate every aspect of their act, including and especially social media, in their actual in-ring work, which is very impressive. In one regard, the sense that wrestling is about milking money from the marks, they are revolutionary. They're the first wrestlers of the kickstarter era. I'd actually liken them to Brody in a lot of ways, in how they are their own bosses for the most part, in how they refuse to follow any sort of convention and even push against it as part of their gimmick. I think that real life will catch up with them at some point. Their act, as it is now, is not sustainable, both for the speed in which culture changes and inverts these days and just in the fact that they're aging and starting to have more familial responsibilities. In a lot of ways that leads to an end of freedom and their entire existence as they are now, hinges on their freedom to break from form. I respect what they've accomplished. I'm way too old for that shit though. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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