Michael Sweetser Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I suggest everyone play the Austin vs Steamboat match as early as they can, because the Bash at the Beach arena IS SO AWESOME First match Universe Mode booked was Reigns vs Orton. And I was like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKK I can't decide which one of these guys I hate less Then I went with DVDVR March Madness Semifinalist Roman Reigns. The match ended up being awesome. Randy won by DDTing me on my already bleeding beautiful Samoan face, but shit was back and forth. I just like that the computer was able to beat me semi fairly, but about 20% of that was me sucking at the pin system. A LOT better at it now. That's exactly how I feel. In MyCareer I've lost a good 50-60% of my matches, but they've all been so fun and so back and forth I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 You were fucking Roman Reigns? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I have yet to play My Career, but I will say that my experiences have been positive so far, except for the super shitty submission system. The feedback for it is SO POOR. Like I said, it doesn't matter if you move the stick left to right, or in a circle, it's just bad. Had they kept it the same as the mini game for collar and elbow tie ups, but a little slower, it would have been perfect. All you would need to do is give the person applying the submission less zones (maybe 1) early in the match, but the person in the submission has more zones to light up. As the match progresses and more damage is done, the opposite is true. Square (PS4 here) still applies a strike while one of the R buttons still wrenches the submission to throw off the person trying to defend it. Like I said, that would have been just fine. It's one less mini game, it actually WORKS, and the idea of pounding on the part of the body you're applying the submission to or wrenching in the submission fits how that works in an actual match. Imagine this, it looks like your opponent is about to bust out of an abdominal stretch, but you press the square button to start pounding on your opponents ribs to halt their progress in breaking out. It could also be context sensitive. If it's a sleeper hold, you do the whole wrenching in your arms tighter thing. Even better, give the person in the submission ways of halting the progress of the opponent applying the submission based on certain ability. So if you're Dean Ambrose, and you have some kind of a resiliency ability, pressing one of the R buttons (again, I forget which one) makes you start biting your own fingers to block the pain. Or if you're a technical wrestler, you get an opportunity to reverse the submission. FUCK. The more I think about that and type that out, the more I think that was a huge missed opportunity that seems very simple to put in the game since it's pretty close to other mini games that are already in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty J. Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 You were fucking Roman Reigns? Ok. No bro, he's way out of my league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 You were fucking Roman Reigns? Ok. It helped him beat Kevin Owens somehow though. Sami Zayn better start doing some butthole kegels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 You were fucking Roman Reigns? Ok. It helped him beat Kevin Owens somehow though. Sami Zayn better start doing some butthole kegels They did wonders for Shawn Michaels' career... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I don't want any minigames at all. Fuck it, make it damage based. You kick out of a pin if you're not too hurt to do it. You submit if you're too fucked up. This is how everything we played in the late 90s-early 2000s that we wish games were still like played anyway. Shit, Firepro all you'd have to do to kick out is hold down the button. No tappymash, no minigames, and if you were too fucked up you wouldn't do it, but you could time a perfect 2.9 if you wanted to work a match. Last night I was playing and have a habit of doing the Stone Cold promos along with Stone Cold in Stone Cold's voice. Kind of forgot I had my window open. My neighbors might think I kidnapped Stone Cold you guys But at least they know if you put S in front of Hitman you'll have my exact opinion of Bret Hart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Last night I was playing and have a habit of doing the Stone Cold promos along with Stone Cold in Stone Cold's voice. Kind of forgot I had my window open. My neighbors might think I kidnapped Stone Cold you guys But at least they know if you put S in front of Hitman you'll have my exact opinion of Bret Hart That makes me feel better about hearing "LOU THESZ PRESS PISTON RIGHTS STONE COLD STONE COLD STONE COLD" in my head during every Austin match I've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroresuFan Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Yeah, baby! This makes it a must have purchase for me !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Wait, I thought this was supposed to be realistic. They didn't accurately capture the soulless eyes or lack of talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 That Eva Marie video is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Is this year's not getting a PC release? It's a shame it looks like they only got last year's (by consensus) inferior game and it killed their interest to try it again. This one sounds a lot more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonr4s Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Finished the showcase. Meh...it was alright. I think I'm just tired of reliving WWF in the 90's. I really enjoyed the WCW and ECW stuff, that's where they should go next year IMO. Don't know how they botched Rock's attire at WM X-7, but I'm picky. Little inaccuracies take me outta the match. The server suck ass, but when you can connect, there's already some decent alt. attires and CAWs on there. It never takes makers long. Got me a couple Rick Rude alts that are spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Is this year's not getting a PC release? It's a shame it looks like they only got last year's (by consensus) inferior game and it killed their interest to try it again. This one sounds a lot more fun. Maybe they'll release it in the spring like they did with last year's because ummm because? The modding community never really took off from what I saw. The NBA 2K PC guys have just only now got a program that will allow them to do all the things they used to be able to do with the last gen series (which was seriously amazing. Rosters going back every year to the '60s I think it was, the last I checked - with draft classes!). If they start releasing season mods dating back to the '90s by next summer, I may end up with both the PS4 and PC versions of the game. I do hope this is something they stick with and try to build up. If they do another very, very delayed release again - it's not helping their cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty J. Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Finished the showcase. Meh...it was alright. I think I'm just tired of reliving WWF in the 90's. I really enjoyed the WCW and ECW stuff, that's where they should go next year IMO. Don't know how they botched Rock's attire at WM X-7, but I'm picky. Little inaccuracies take me outta the match. The server suck ass, but when you can connect, there's already some decent alt. attires and CAWs on there. It never takes makers long. Got me a couple Rick Rude alts that are spot on. Some of these little things irk me. Hate the fact we don't have a Raw or Smackdown 2000/2001 arena (or matches in those arenas). I also have a lot of possible matches in the game are just briefly glossed over in the cutscenes. They could've done a ton of extra bonus matches against midcarders (e.g. feud against Goldust). Surprised though that Taker has his Rollin' theme. The learning curve for this game is quite steep, but overall I have no buyers remorse. The submissions are still complete and total ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 With thte inclusion of 3 Stings, you think they would have some kind of "turn on your partner" feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The submission system is horrific. I almost cut the game off before I was able to submit Enzo in the opening tutorial of the career mode. Enzo was beat up, injured, and there only to be submitted, and I barely submitted him after about 15 tries. There are a couple of things that videogames can't ever get right for some odd reason. It is 2015 and there have been wrestling and MMA videogames for 15-20 years, and none of the submission systems work in a way that makes sense. Another thing that wrestling video games never get right, black people's hair. Why can't my create a wrestler get a haircut with a decent line up? Seriously, I spent as much time trying to find hair that didn't look like either a balding old man or a Terrance Howard character. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I am really into this game so far. Love it. I also haven't owned a wrestling game in years though. I completely agree on the submission system and I don't like mini games at all anyway. Why don't you just make the likelihood of a submission be based on the health and stamina of the wrestler? Same for a finisher and pinfall. If you're about dead and they hit a signature move and then go for submission finisher, you should lose. Pretty damn simple to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroresuFan Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 That right there is one of those things you don't realize you need in your life until you see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonr4s Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I've given up on the submission system for the time being. Even just moving it side to side instead of rotating doesn't work like it's supposed to. I've used Bret Hart a hundred times already...I just try and win with the piledriver now. Maybe I'll get back to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I got to play a couple of matches last night and the pin mechanism is FAST. I haven't mastered it yet. Submissions? Yeah, still a mystery but I'll get back to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I get the desire to return purely back to the day of AKI/SPIKE games where kickouts and submissions were based purely on damage and ratings but I like the infusion of player skill that this game has. There's still clearly an influence of damage and wrestler durability on how hard it is, but it's pretty cool to have a really small chance to kickout after getting smacked around a bunch. What I don't like is outside of after being hit with a finisher, how easy it is to kick out at 0 or 1 even well into a match and being hit with strong grapple moves. That's my only complaint about the pin system. The submission system, on the other hand, can get fucked. As tromataker said, the circles are way, way too small for this to work well. Plus, you can't crawl to the ropes anymore, which was one of the few features I really adored in the SvR games and something I wished KOC had back in the day. There's a pretty huge gap between the normal and hard difficulties. I think it took 3 gorilla press slams and splashes from Warrior to put Mikey fucking Whipwreck down on hard. Come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Terminator's finishing move is... the Burning Hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 So, you can't use a custom arena in just a plain old one-on-one match? Really? Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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