jaedmc Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 a lot to ask? Because I think an audience can remember how many strikeouts a pitcher has, what the current count is for the current batter, and how many hits their favorite player has while still enjoying a baseball game, and many of them do it quite effortlessly. So expecting an audience to just remember that a team can't have infinite saves doesn't seem like a lot to me. But then again, I haven't been to a wrestling event in a while. It's possible the audiences have degraded severely, which might be a reason we've had to ban so many posters lately. 2
Infinit Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 The ring announcer could announce "saves" as they happen and how many remain, just like they would how much like elapsed/remained. Not that big a deal.
Patrick B. Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 I've heard people say that fans generally don't go to wrestling shows to think; they just want to see the good guy beat up the bad guy. I imagine that's true to some extent.
jaedmc Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 You don't even have to announce it, it's just a rule like two feet touching the floor, or low blows. All it takes is a team to get DQ'd for excessive saving on RAW and then everyone knows it. It's not some kind of difficult equation that people have to even think about. Don't save a bunch or you get DQ'd.
Big Fresh Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 a lot to ask? Because I think an audience can remember how many strikeouts a pitcher has, what the current count is for the current batter, and how many hits their favorite player has while still enjoying a baseball game, and many of them do it quite effortlessly. So expecting an audience to just remember that a team can't have infinite saves doesn't seem like a lot to me. But then again, I haven't been to a wrestling event in a while. It's possible the audiences have degraded severely, which might be a reason we've had to ban so many posters lately. Then why does baseball have scoreboards listing all those things?
jaedmc Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 So when people get a beer they know what they missed. Duh 1
Greggulator Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 You'd have to train the audience to realize it's now a rule. The audience has been trained to know the rules of a cage/lumberjack/etc. match. You'd have to reintroduce the tag match rules and really emphasize it (i.e., heels losing because of the new rule) to get it over. And you'd have to do it a few times before it stuck.It wouldn't take too long to do. But is the payoff worth it? I think it would really add a lot of fun to tag matches. But tag wrestling is already my favorite type of wrestling, so would this really mess up what we love? WWE tag/six-man matches have really great finishing segments usually filled with a lot of dives and last-second pin break-ups. Would this end?Also, workers weren't brought up thinking about this stuff when structuring matches. I'm sure the WWE guys would be able to pick it up and have fun with it in no time. But it could also be a lot of fun.I'd have to go back and see the Watts Era "No Top Rope Moves" stuff. I know that handicapped a lot of fun wrestlers like Pillman. But I always thought the reasoning behind that was it allowed for heels to use that as a cheating move when a ref's back was down. That makes something like an axehandle from the corner a lot more important and dramatic instead of the throwaway spot it really was.
Big Fresh Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 I think you're overestimating how engaged the audience is at your typical local Indy show. ROH and PWG are one thing, but at most shows in the area, the audience is mostly there because they have a friend on the show and they're just gonna drink for all the rest of the matches. You're lucky to get them interested at all, I wouldn't throw any more hurdles at them. It gives me bad flashbacks to ROH's 3 Rope Breaks matches.
jaedmc Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Look, I couldn't really give a shit about how engaged everyone else is. If the audience is so dumb -so be it. But this is what I want and the rest of the mouth breathers can deal with it. It's too late anyway. I called Vince this morning, expect to start seeing these rules enforced Monday. You're welcome. 10
Big Fresh Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Fair enough. I guess my point is the guys in the ring wouldn't like it much.
jaedmc Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 It's not about them. It's about the WWE Universe. Everyone knows this.
Big Fresh Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Ah. I actually wouldn't have a problem with it if WWE did it. Because they have announcers and graphics to keep everyone informed (well, theoretically, better announcers would help, but still). I was talking about Indy shows specifically since someone said "All Indy shows should this".
The Nature Boy Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Found this on YouTube. It's nice to see Joey Mercury and Dean Ambrose reviving their long lost feud. 1
hammerva Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Always crack me up how Dean Ambrose was basically a Hunter Hearst Helmsey rip off early in his career with absolutely none of the edge he has now. Remember when he debut with Sami Calihan as the Switchblade Conspiracy in CZW as was shocked how different and awesome he was
The Nature Boy Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 I want a Piranesi explanation for how long blond hair Jon Moxley became The Lunatic Fringe.
Patrick B. Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 One indy fed around here operated under ECW-esque rules(no countouts and no DQs across the board) until fairly recently. Unfortunately, this led to one screwed-up finish where a guy did two blatant low blows in front of the referee, getting his team disqualified when they were scheduled to win. It sucked because the winners of that tag match were supposed to advance to a match later in the card and the other member of that team was supposed to win that later match, so they had to do some serious tapdancing to get to the scheduled end result...oops?
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Look at Melina there! Titty Master jokes in 3,2.... Hidden Highlight there is the fake noise.
The Nature Boy Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Look at Melina there! Titty Master jokes in 3,2.... Hidden Highlight there is the fake noise. Why do you think Evolution and The Shield feuded? Batista was jealous that Ambrose mastered them first.
Nice Guy Eddie Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Look at Melina there! Titty Master jokes in 3,2.... Hidden Highlight there is the fake noise. Moxley became so enthralled with Melina's tits that he allowed himself to become a host body for her craziness; leading to the change from mild mannered to Switchblade Conspiracy to the Lunatic Fringe. 1
CanadianChris Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 I remember it being 1 save in the NWA/WCW, I think it was a Rock 'n' Roll match I watched earlier where they used a save, and JR or Watts pointed out they couldn't do it again. I think that the fans would be able to follow it; but you have to have announcers and refs pointing these things out. If announcers were pointing it out for years in matches; then when someone got DQed everyone would understand. If next week they disqualify someone for it, and reference a rule nobody's mentioned in 15 years, then there's problems. The refs even just need to do "That's one, next time I'll DQ you!" Also, there's no way Average Baseball Fan memorizes how many strikeouts a pitcher has throughout the game.
Big Fresh Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 bleacherreport.com/articles/2225536-cm-punk-reportedly-offered-deal-to-join-tna-latest-details-and-reaction?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming TNA has reached out to CM Punk. Man, I wish his reaction to that was filmed.
cool arrow Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 "Well, I walked out on my dream gig because I'm totally burned out on the business, but you know what? I'd totally love to take more money than everyone else on the roster combined to work your contractually-obligated death rattle of a UK tour!"
The Nature Boy Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Funny thing is: Punk walking out may have increased his value. I'm sure Vince would pay him a load of money to come back.
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