lovchunky Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 There was no Raw on Christmas day 1995. However, there was an international airing. Does this exist anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Right - the Poffos made up with Lawler and co. when ICW went under, and Savage and Lawler did some hot main events in Memphis. Savage ended up going to the WWF and turned babyface on the way out, teaming a couple of times with Lawler and putting over a really green Rick Rude. (A lot of this stuff is on the Wrestling Gold DVD sets, BTW, and I cannot recommend them strongly enough!) Actually, Savage quickly turned heel again and had another series of matches with Lawler before he left Memphis for WWF. You're right, did some reading up on it right after I posted it, too. He stuck around longer than I remembered him doing so - my mind was saying he was gone shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The story goes that after Jimmy Hart left Memphis for the WWF, he told Vince what a great pick-up Savage would be, and when Vince became interested, Jimmy called Randy to tell him the news, but he had to call the Memphis studios to reach him so he pretended to be an Amway customer to get his attention and not get hung up on. Because apparently that's what Randy Savage did in the 80s. Sell Amway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Which pretty much confirms everything I've always believed about Amway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelcanvas Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Was Memphis TV broadcast live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister TV Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The story goes that after Jimmy Hart left Memphis for the WWF, he told Vince what a great pick-up Savage would be, and when Vince became interested, Jimmy called Randy to tell him the news, but he had to call the Memphis studios to reach him so he pretended to be an Amway customer to get his attention and not get hung up on. Because apparently that's what Randy Savage did in the 80s. Sell Amway. I actually think it was Herbalife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Right - the Poffos made up with Lawler and co. when ICW went under, and Savage and Lawler did some hot main events in Memphis. Savage ended up going to the WWF and turned babyface on the way out, teaming a couple of times with Lawler and putting over a really green Rick Rude. (A lot of this stuff is on the Wrestling Gold DVD sets, BTW, and I cannot recommend them strongly enough!)Actually, Savage quickly turned heel again and had another series of matches with Lawler before he left Memphis for WWF. You're right, did some reading up on it right after I posted it, too. He stuck around longer than I remembered him doing so - my mind was saying he was gone shortly after. And he got a longer run than most then-Lawler rivals got because of the blackballing by the NWA. Of course, Memphis had, at best, a complicated relationship with the NWA, plus it was too much of a money match to pass up for political reasons. Savage was genuinely lucky that he was able to be treated like a star from day one where he wrestled from day one from IWA forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Right - the Poffos made up with Lawler and co. when ICW went under, and Savage and Lawler did some hot main events in Memphis. Savage ended up going to the WWF and turned babyface on the way out, teaming a couple of times with Lawler and putting over a really green Rick Rude. (A lot of this stuff is on the Wrestling Gold DVD sets, BTW, and I cannot recommend them strongly enough!)Actually, Savage quickly turned heel again and had another series of matches with Lawler before he left Memphis for WWF. You're right, did some reading up on it right after I posted it, too. He stuck around longer than I remembered him doing so - my mind was saying he was gone shortly after. And he got a longer run than most then-Lawler rivals got because of the blackballing by the NWA. Of course, Memphis had, at best, a complicated relationship with the NWA, plus it was too much of a money match to pass up for political reasons. Savage was genuinely lucky that he was able to be treated like a star from day one where he wrestled from day one from IWA forward. I think he's just one of those people with crazy star power and charisma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelcanvas Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Reading Backlund's book. He describes a match against Dusty in New Japan. The subject of Dusty in Japan is one I've pondered before. Anyhow, the exact specific details of the description of the match in the book would lead me to believe it was taped. Yes/No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 May 27, 1980 for the WWF Championship? Yes. Used to be on the YouTubes but it looks like New Japan got it yanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADCAP Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I've been looking for the unedited version of the Nightmares vs. Fire and Flame, where Fire(or was it Flame?) attacks a fan on tv? The versions I found have it edited out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I love that Backlund-Dusty match. I wish the Dusty-Hogan match would show up on Youtube. Then again, it would just get yanked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelcanvas Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Watching WCCW on the WWE network. Where was Gary Hart in December 82 to leave all his contracts to that stiff Armand Hussein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 According to both documentaries he claims to have quit on the spot after he felt Fritz lowballed him on pay after *that* Star Wars card. To paraphrase his point, "I just gave you a license to print money and *this* is what I get for a thank you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Pretty sure that's also in the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Reading Backlund's book. He describes a match against Dusty in New Japan. The subject of Dusty in Japan is one I've pondered before. Anyhow, the exact specific details of the description of the match in the book would lead me to believe it was taped. Yes/No? I have that match on a disc somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADCAP Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 I found it on a German website and it didn't set off my Norton so.....watch it at your peril. http://www.izlesem.org/njpw-bob-backlund-vs-dusty-rhodes-world-title-5-27-801.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelcanvas Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hey! Dusty lost some weight! (nice try though . . . ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 So randomly decided to watch the first couple ECW on TNN shows...what was the real story behind Sabu is 'banned' from wrestling in the US? Heyman and Sabu weren't on great terms at this time. Paul E wanted Sabu to take some time off (with pay) to heal some lingering injuries. Sabu wanted to go to WCW. The "ban" may have been a cover story to explain why Sabu wasn't around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 So randomly decided to watch the first couple ECW on TNN shows...what was the real story behind Sabu is 'banned' from wrestling in the US? Heyman and Sabu weren't on great terms at this time. Paul E wanted Sabu to take some time off (with pay) to heal some lingering injuries. Sabu wanted to go to WCW. The "ban" may have been a cover story to explain why Sabu wasn't around. Let's be fair to Sabu, Paul Heyman had enough trouble paying the guys who were actually there. I can't imagine how difficult it would've been to collect money from him if you were sitting at home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 not to mention that this would've been the time when most of the bigger stars had moved on and were currently in the "big leagues" (WCW had Sandman, Raven, Saturn, and Mikey Whipwreck; WWF had the Dudley Boyz & Scorpio). Hell, Taz left ECW less than a month after the first episode of ECW on TNN. Sabu likely heard from some of these guys that he could be making much more money for much less work. Hell, he would've known, since he spent a few weeks in WCW in 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Pretty sure Sabu "banned in the US" was just an angle to make him look like more of a badass and probably promote him in future "unsanctioned" matches to make you think ANYTHING was going to happen when he did wrestle. I doubt WCW was a serious possibility. Heyman would have looked like an idiot if he was saying Sabu was banned one week, and then he was wrestling Disco Inferno the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 WCW wasn't a possibility because Heyman wasn't going to let Sabu out of his contract. Sabu erroneously thought ECW had breached his contract, and WCW even offered him a deal, but Paul E threatened to sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Why was the crown never centered on Harley Race's tights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 That was Harley's way of getting people to check out his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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