The Man Known as Dan Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 No love for Emma? Bah humbug to you sir. Those Bayley/Tatsu promos are both really really strong stuff. I watched some of the others and they were very solid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 They feel so organic. I know scripting helps create a more consistent end game but you miss out on some really unique stuff like the Tatsu interview. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 apparently I needed to watch NXT because Simon Gotch is dangerously close to working Charlie Chaplin's Tramp gimmick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 apparently I needed to watch NXT because Simon Gotch is dangerously close to working Charlie Chaplin's Tramp gimmick All they need is someone to do Harold Lloyd and Buster Keaton and along with Aiden English they could have a hell of a Vaudevillian stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelemania Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 No love for Emma? Bah humbug to you sir. I haven't really seen her yet. I know of her but I don't watch NXT all the time, so I haven't seen her wrestle yet. She's pretty, for whatever that's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 apparently I needed to watch NXT because Simon Gotch is dangerously close to working Charlie Chaplin's Tramp gimmick All they need is someone to do Harold Lloyd and Buster Keaton and along with Aiden English they could have a hell of a Vaudevillian stable. And they all coincidentally have loaded hats that they can hit their opponents with. Porkpie hat of death 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I really love these presentation skills. It's such a cool behind-the-scenes look at things. I really liked the girl who mimed and Simon Gotch. I doubt a girl who makes fishing line faces is her gimmick but facial expressions are such a huge part of wrestling. Learning how to play to the back of the room and the camera is something that will really go a long way. The WWE, at its core, is live theater. Knowing how to visually communicate emotion is such a huge part of the product. It's great to see them really emphasize the theater component of the show. Wrestling obviously goes well beyond just having moves. And it also goes beyond ring psychology. It's about connecting with the audience both live and on television.There are so many young folks in the post-FCW/NXT era who do that so well. Sandow. Summer Rae, Bray and Harper all really stand out to me in that department. The Shield guys stand out, too -- maybe not in the vaudevillian sense the aforementioned folks do, but they love to trash talk and say things for the ring mics to hear. It really stands out and it adds a ton to their matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Kayfabe Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I know this is beating a dead horse at this point, but why put Eva Marie and JoJo on the Divas show when they could have easily given the gig to, I dunno, Bailey and Emma? How many times is WWE going to do this deal where they put no-names on reality shows and attempt to make names out of them - only to suddenly remember "oh, they have no experience at all." Then they send 'em to developmental and 9/10 times they fizzle out and get released. The storyline of the Bellas (or whoever else) being afraid of Eva Marie doesn't work because other than being attractive, Eva Marie has no redeeming factors as it pertains to sports entertainment. She can't act. She can't talk. She can't wrestle. Why not throw a trainer performer in that spot so that they can actually capitalize off the show by putting her on TV and not having her be obviously out of her league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The storyline of the Bellas (or whoever else) being afraid of Eva Marie doesn't work because other than being attractive, Eva Marie has no redeeming factors as it pertains to sports entertainment. She can't act. She can't talk. She can't wrestle. Maybe they remember that at one point (some would say currently) they were in the same position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Kayfabe Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Of course who the Bellas are sleeping with doesn't hurt, but they at the very least have the twin thing going for them, which is something. Brie seems to be trying to improve as a wrestler so I will giver her credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James F'n X Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Have those presentation videos been mirrored anywhere? DM pulled them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLaw Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15fi77_buddy-murphy-presentation-skills-09-11-13_tv Here's one with Buddy Murphy doing the disowning the gimmick schtick alongside a hopefully unintentional Benoit reference. Here's a Kassius Ohno one: http://youtu.be/XVVPVMUGjRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm not sure if WWE doesn't want these out or not, but if they don't, that's outright silly. Releasing a bunch of these every 2-3 months can only help the wrestlers in the sense that it gets a buzz going for them. I'm now kinda foaming at the mouth for a Yoshi Tatsu heel turn. That's a good thing that I care about Yoshi Tatsu, not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 So... is there any reason why nobody talks about Ohno/Regal as one of the best matches of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimLivingston Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Back when it came out, anyone who saw it said as much. It still is to me at this point. Cesaro/Zayn is up there. But I have a feeling Cesaro/Regal will top it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I need to re-watch it, because I remember not liking it as much as I wanted to. Didn't Ohno pretty much get squashed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Not even remotely. Regal won Clean, but Ohno beat the ever loving fuck out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimoDANK Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm not sure if WWE doesn't want these out or not, but if they don't, that's outright silly. Releasing a bunch of these every 2-3 months can only help the wrestlers in the sense that it gets a buzz going for them. I'm now kinda foaming at the mouth for a Yoshi Tatsu heel turn. That's a good thing that I care about Yoshi Tatsu, not a bad thing. I keep waiting for his release so Naofumi Yamamoto can return to NJPW. That dude had potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Bones Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Having only recently started watching nXt I missed Regal/Ohno. Checked it out and it's great. Best I've seen from the farm league so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Has Sami Callihan been on this show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Has Sami Callihan been on this show? Nope. There are rumors he'll go straight to the main roster soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valcourt Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Could someone please give me the air date of the NXT Sami/Cesaro 2 out of 3 falls match? I seem to be getting every show but that one. Thanks! ABout Sami. I THINK he has done the NXT "house shows..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 August 21st, episode 183. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 CESARO VS. YOSHI -- Antonio starts the match by throwing in the Don't Tread On Me flag. The ring announcer picked it up. Cesaro took offense and started bullying him. It was REALLY good bullying, too. Just really dickish jock stuff. Regal leaves the announce table and saves the announcer. This was a squash and they put over Cesaro HARD. Cesaro kept on giving hard looks to Regal, who looked frightened and worried about a potential match from someone he earlier admitted was better than he had ever been. GREAT subtext to the feud here. I absolutely cannot wait for that match. Renee gets over the fear, too. Bo Dallas cut one of his ridiculous promos ("We're All Winners!" "It's like 'The Voice' but without Cee-Lo Green!") until he's interrupted by CJ Parker doing some Phish fan nonsense. CJ's really funny here, too, leaving the interview by saying "Koo koo koo choo." It's sort of bad Bo Dallas is doing this on NXT. I mean, I love it to death. But no character has ever done better with a face/heel flip since The Rock's heel turn. He went from being absolutely awful to one of the best characters in years overnight.BO VS. CJ -- This match was a decent, short affair. Bo added in these short-arm elbows that were a little like how Wade used to do the Bullhammer. It adds a really vicious looking touch to a character who believes he's the best possible person. CJ got in some decent looking offense and had a near fall on Bo after a DDT variation. Bo won with his bulldog. I really wish Bo just timed the kick-out a beat later to REALLY put over how in jeopardy he was. He's a great cowardly, escape-by-the-skin-of-his-teeth type. He's almost there.EMMA has an interview where she talks about the BFFs giving her head injuries. Paige interrupts to tell her how then she'll have no excuses during their inevitable rematch. The NXT Divas division is so perfect. Summer Rae has manipulated the entire division perfectly -- now the two faces don't like each other, making them easier to divide and conquer. Hopefully they eventually do the Emma/Paige/Bailey vs. BFFs.NATTIE shows up to talk to Paige about her off-screen rudeness. They argue. Paige's POV: You don't care about this because you're all about Total Divas. Nattie's POV: I do care! Paige lays down a challenge for the title later in the match. Nattie came off REALLY well here. Her delivery was completely natural and organic.TYLER BREEZE vs. KASSIUS OHNO -- Regal talks about Breeze being good looking Renee: "This charming man!" They are the ABSOLUTE BEST. Rusev jumps Kassius from behind during his entrance. Breeze stands in the ring still taking selfies. Breeze hits a super quick Beauty Shop for the win.The BFFs (now w/ Charlotte) are judging photos on a phone. Summer tells Charlotte to get off-screen. Why? Because he's Bailey, demanding she talk with Charlotte. Summer Rae and Sasha act all mean girl, insulting (properly) Bailey's cat sweater. Bailey then tells them about a tag match. She has some mystery partner.SAMI ZAYN and ADRIAN NEVILLE are backstage to address their match. Neville talks about how they go back a long ways but this title means so much, etc. Sami essentially says the same exact thing. Sami is SO much more natural and convincing. The guy has this incredibly rare and awesome feeling as coming off like himself. Neville was okay but still fairly forced.HUNICO and CAMACHO vs. THE ASCENSION -- All four of these guys are snoooooozes.ADRIAN NEVILLE VS. SAMI ZAYN -- This match was AWESOME. This was the best friggin' ECWA Super 8/WCW Cruiserweight match in decades. Breathtaking spots, great psychology, etc. Great stunning upset, too. Sami puts together another NXT MOTY type of match -- he's absolutely perfect at his role right now. Dude's a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKash202 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I know this is beating a dead horse at this point, but why put Eva Marie and JoJo on the Divas show when they could have easily given the gig to, I dunno, Bailey and Emma? How many times is WWE going to do this deal where they put no-names on reality shows and attempt to make names out of them - only to suddenly remember "oh, they have no experience at all." Then they send 'em to developmental and 9/10 times they fizzle out and get released. The storyline of the Bellas (or whoever else) being afraid of Eva Marie doesn't work because other than being attractive, Eva Marie has no redeeming factors as it pertains to sports entertainment. She can't act. She can't talk. She can't wrestle. Why not throw a trainer performer in that spot so that they can actually capitalize off the show by putting her on TV and not having her be obviously out of her league. Because Eva and Jojo look significantly better than Bayley and Emma. Really the only reason. But I do wonder why the other girls couldn't be on the show as well. I see Paige, Emma, and Sasha on Tweet talking about they can't wait to come to the main roster. For what? You won't be allowed to do your thing. We better enjoy these girls while we can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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