Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The weirdest show moment was when Ken Shamrock outed his dad. I think Vince can top that easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCaesar Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I never get why Austin considers The Ringmaster to be such a terrible gimmick. Sure, he probably would have rather used the Austin name from the get-go, but Dibiase managed guys at that time period were considered potential upper echelon heels. Its not like he was brought in to be Freddie Joe Floyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I never get why Austin considers The Ringmaster to be such a terrible gimmick. Sure, he probably would have rather used the Austin name from the get-go, but Dibiase managed guys at that time period were considered potential upper echelon heels. Its not like he was brought in to be Freddie Joe Floyd. I dunno if I'd say that. Here was his crew in the run prior to the Ringmaster: IRS Bam Bam Bigelow Nikolai Volkoff Kama King Kong Bundy Sycho Sid 1-2-3 Kid Tatanka Bigelow and Sid I'll give you, but Bundy and Volkoff's best days were long past, Rotunda wasn't much younger, and was established enough that we pretty well knew the upper card was beyond him, and I refuse to believe that 1995 Vince saw Sean Waltman as a future upper-carder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I never get why Austin considers The Ringmaster to be such a terrible gimmick. Sure, he probably would have rather used the Austin name from the get-go, but Dibiase managed guys at that time period were considered potential upper echelon heels. Its not like he was brought in to be Freddie Joe Floyd. I think it's just the stuff he had been doing in ECW was heavy on promos and angles. Then he's brought in with a mouthpiece to be a cold, emotionless wrestling machine. It didn't play to the strengths that had gotten him noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Ringmaster wasn't a terrible gimmick on its own, but it was a terrible gimmick to give a guy who was already an established name in the business. It would have worked better with someone with less notoriety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Didn't Chris Benoit try out with Ted DiBiase as his manager? I imagine that The Ringmaster was their original idea for Benoit. It seemed to fit HIM to a tee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCaesar Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I never get why Austin considers The Ringmaster to be such a terrible gimmick. Sure, he probably would have rather used the Austin name from the get-go, but Dibiase managed guys at that time period were considered potential upper echelon heels. Its not like he was brought in to be Freddie Joe Floyd. I think it's just the stuff he had been doing in ECW was heavy on promos and angles. Then he's brought in with a mouthpiece to be a cold, emotionless wrestling machine. It didn't play to the strengths that had gotten him noticed. This is true. However, if you check out his introduction on the Brother Love show, he delivers a pretty fun heel promo wherein he implores viewers at home to touch his hand through the tv screen to feel "what its like to be destined for success". Although, Ringmaster's overuse of the word "man" was a little much, man. Not sure how to imbed the Youtube for those interested, but the WWE uploaded it, man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEN! Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 "The Ringmaster" wasn't even really a gimmick. It was just a new nickname. He was "The Ringmaster" Steve Austin. It's not like he had to wear a top hat and cut promos into a megaphone. It would be fun to hear Vince curse What is something that no one working backstage in WWE ever says before going to work? I can't wait for Austin to apologize for not doing business with Lesnar and saying he should have had the conversation with Vince face-to-face instead of over the phone. If only they had Go To Meeting back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Anyone else remember that weird phase where he was "Stone Cold Steve Austin" but was still doing The Ringmaster thing with DiBiase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningBeard Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Sort of, I vividly remember him changing persona into being more emotionless and calculating and the commentators constantly saying how "stone cold he is" on Superstars prior to the Savio Vega fued. Along those lines I also remember NOD Kama start wearing a bowler hat when he accompanied D'Lo and the commentators constantly saying how he looks like "the godfather", whateverthefuck that was supposed to mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Bray gave Naylor a shout out on the pod today, when they found his music in developmental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggulator Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Great interview with Bray. This is the most out-of-character he's been. He really talks about how he developed the character, the music, etc.I loved how he talked about when he briefly wrestled under a mask for the short-lived Axl Mulligan. He said that freed him, because he had to really express himself differently than he had before, which let him experiment a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I like how he sought advice from dan spivey about the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 at least there's a kayfabe reason for the shitty cellphone connection to Bray. Guessing part 2 of Bray is next week and the Vince interview comes later or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 In terms of stage names based on lineage, Axl Mulligan > Curtis Axel by about a thousand. That said, Irwin Mulligan FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I would have went with Irwin Mulligan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Just being "windham rotundo" would have been awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The judges would have also accepted Blackjack Shyster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Blackjack Schyster: IRS Agent Cowboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The judges would have also accepted Blackjack Shyster. captain blackjack shyster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Axel Mulligan got a million billion points in my book simply for working in a Misfits shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikoBaltimore Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 The Bray interview was very, very good. It's interesting how WWE's seemingly fine with him going out of character. But then again, it seems like there's a lot of parallels between who he really is and the character. It seems like the perfect fit for him to get into. Loved hearing that while he's influenced by Spivey and others, he went really far in researching all the ways to make this work. I really hope he achieves greater success, because he very much will go above and beyond to get there. And I had to hear that Naylor shoutout twice to make sure I heard that right. That's very cool. I'm looking forward to the Vince interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 My favourite part of the interview was that he put over the idea of a new generation 2.0 big time and you could hear the competitiveness and almost resentment in his voice concerning the established top two of Cena and Orton. Extrapolating from this it would appear that when Cesaro spoke out recently about those two he was echoing sentiment felt amongst this group of younger guys wanting to reach the top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Bray seems like such a weird dude that even "out of character" is still halfway in character. Like Ambrose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm interested to hear if Bray goes off on a conspiracy tangent like the end of the Daniel Bryan interview with Stone Cold from earlier this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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