ALL OUT VI - 9/7/2024

[The Natural]

43 minutes ago, SturmCRF said:

I used to try and watch every WWE PPV live for years, until I realised I didn't have to/moved out and could no longer rely on my parents waking me up for work the next day. Originally it was because I had frenemies at school who would eagerly spoil me on anything significant that happened if I hadn't already watched it the night before. During the Attitude era I didn't even bother to watch the matches a lot of the time, if I hadn't watched live and didn't have three hours spare I'd just zip to the end and see who'd turned on who.

There were also several years where I'd watch RAW live, staying up til 4AM drinking Red Bull, eating cottage cheese and Sweet Chilli crisps like a gremlin, and then wasting several doctors' valuable time trying to get to the bottom of why I had really bad acid reflux.

Thank you for sharing this. I wasn't allowed to stay up to watch live WWF/E PPV on Sky living at home. When some WWF PPVs went to Channel 4 in 2000-2001, I had an old school terrestrial TV so on the Sunday I'd go to bed really early, wake up for when it went out on the Monday and went to school. I was fucked. Didn't miss a day. Lights were on, no-one home.

Edited August 31 by The Natural

[The Natural]

11 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Thank you for sharing this. I wasn't allowed to stay up to watch live WWF/E PPV on Sky. When some WWF PPVs went to Channel 4 in 2000-2001, I had an old school terrestrial TV so on the Sunday I'd go to bed really early, wake up for when it went out on the Monday and went to school the next day. I was fucked. Didn't miss a day. Lights were on, no-one home.

Funnily enough for a short period, a VT man called Ray would connect a VCR to a big screen projector in the main hall and showed Attitude Era PPVs at a dinner time from 2000-2001. God's honest truth. No BS.

Edited August 31 by The Natural

[The Natural]

Looking forward to Hangman Adam Page vs. Swerve Strickland which should main event the show, when normally it should be the AEW World Championship match. I wonder how far they'll go to top the Texas Death Match at Full Gear 2020 which begs the next question, what will be the feud ender? A no rope barbed wire match or even a no rope barbed wire exploding death match to "make up" for the Revolution 2021 ending between Kenny Omega and Jon Moxley?

I was hoping for Kazuchika Okada vs. Claudio Castagnoli for All Out instead of what we got, Okada in a four way and The Young Bucks vs. Castagnoli/Yuta. Disappointed.

[RazorbladeKiss87]

5 hours ago, The Natural said:

Looking forward to Hangman Adam Page vs. Swerve Strickland which should main event the show, when normally it should be the AEW World Championship match. I wonder how far they'll go to top the Texas Death Match at Full Gear 2020 which begs the next question, what will be the feud ender? A no rope barbed wire match or even a no rope barbed wire exploding death match to "make up" for the Revolution 2021 ending between Kenny Omega and Jon Moxley?

I was hoping for Kazuchika Okada vs. Claudio Castagnoli for All Out instead of what we got, Okada in a four way and The Young Bucks vs. Castagnoli/Yuta. Disappointed.

If I'm being unrealistic, the feud ending match should be a razorwire death match with 10000 light tubes around the ring. Maybe a piranha pool too. Get Jun Kasai to consult. 

More realistically, I have no idea what can really top the Texas death match in a mainstream American promotion. They pushed the limits of what the fans will accept. 

[Log]

Having already taken the feud so far in a violent and extreme direction, clearly the blowoff for Swerve and Hangman should be an All Rules Match. This is the opposite of a Lights Out or Anything Goes or No Rules match. All rules are strictly enforced. Don't break quickly enough when your opponent is in the ropes, you lose. Countout on the floor is a strict 10-count that begins immediately as soon as the first competitor is out of the ring. Pull hair? You lose. Closed fist? You lose. Talk back to the ref? You lose. Use a weapon like a chair or table or the ring bell? C'mon! You LOSE! Four referees for a singles match so no one misses anything. Instant replay is in play in the off chance that all four refs get distracted. It's perfect.

[For Great Justice]

I was just watching Sasaki/Nagata that was linked in the blood thread back in July, and to me that’s the answer: two dudes that hate each other just teeing off on each other.

if they pull out the razor wire and glass gimmicks I’ll be pretty disappointed 

Edited September 5 by For Great Justice

[MoeCristyV.1.6]

3 hours ago, Log said:

Having already taken the feud so far in a violent and extreme direction, clearly the blowoff for Swerve and Hangman should be an All Rules Match. This is the opposite of a Lights Out or Anything Goes or No Rules match. All rules are strictly enforced. Don't break quickly enough when your opponent is in the ropes, you lose. Countout on the floor is a strict 10-count that begins immediately as soon as the first competitor is out of the ring. Pull hair? You lose. Closed fist? You lose. Talk back to the ref? You lose. Use a weapon like a chair or table or the ring bell? C'mon! You LOSE! Four referees for a singles match so no one misses anything. Instant replay is in play in the off chance that all four refs get distracted. It's perfect.

So a "No No DQ" match where nothing is allowed. 

[SovietShooter]

4 hours ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

More realistically, I have no idea what can really top the Texas death match in a mainstream American promotion. They pushed the limits of what the fans will accept. 

I've always thought that the "King of the Road" match was a good concept executed poorly.  Put a "shakey cam" in the back of a 53ft trailer, lock it, and throw the key in the back. Whomever gets the key and gets out wins, lol.

[odessasteps]

20 minutes ago, SovietShooter said:

I've always thought that the "King of the Road" match was a good concept executed poorly.  Put a "shakey cam" in the back of a 53ft trailer, lock it, and throw the key in the back. Whomever gets the key and gets out wins, lol.

There are some people who would like to see that bought back. 

[AxB]

3 hours ago, Log said:

Having already taken the feud so far in a violent and extreme direction, clearly the blowoff for Swerve and Hangman should be an All Rules Match. This is the opposite of a Lights Out or Anything Goes or No Rules match. All rules are strictly enforced. Don't break quickly enough when your opponent is in the ropes, you lose. Countout on the floor is a strict 10-count that begins immediately as soon as the first competitor is out of the ring. Pull hair? You lose. Closed fist? You lose. Talk back to the ref? You lose. Use a weapon like a chair or table or the ring bell? C'mon! You LOSE! Four referees for a singles match so no one misses anything. Instant replay is in play in the off chance that all four refs get distracted. It's perfect.

Evil Uno did that on Mystery Wrestling. The Extremely Ruled match. It was an Ironman match, obviously, they were racking up DQs several times a minute. They did an Eddy chairshot fakeout spot, and Cecil Nyx put himself through a table to even the score.

[Zakk_Sabbath]

19 hours ago, odessasteps said:

There are some people who would like to see that bought back. 

I'm down for it! Especially while Dustin's still active - might be a fun little thing for a PPV Zero Hour or you could have it take up 75% of a Rampage or something

[The Natural]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWzDJ7cWIAAbjMd?format=jpg&name=small

Bingo card for Page vs. Strickland tonight.

[The Natural]

Predictions:

Hangman Adam Page vs. Swerve Strickland.

Bryan Danielson vs. Jack Perry.

Will Ospreay vs. PAC.

Young Bucks vs. Claudio Castagnoli/Wheeler Yuta.

Kazuchika Okada vs. Konosuke Takeshita vs. Mark Briscoe vs. Orange Cassidy.

MJF vs. Daniel Garcia.

Mercedes Mone vs. Hikaru Shida.

Willow Nightingale vs. Kris Statlander.

[SovietShooter]

4 hours ago, The Natural said:

Willow Nightingale vs. Kris Statlander.

I think the Willow/Stat match being a street fight, and CMLL refusing to sanction it, is a giveaway that Stat is going over.

[odessasteps]

Willow is now defending the CMLL title on the Anniversary show vs Zeuxis. 

[AxB]

Zero Hour:

[SirFozzie]

Let me just say for the record. That was a fucking insane main event, and shit like that shouldn't happen again for years. I actively felt like turning it off just because it was so.. sadistic. Horror movie shit.

[The Natural]

That needle use was fucking disgusting.

[The Natural]

The use of the needle and the plastic bag on Bryan Danielson soured me on AEW.

[Sublime]

The main may have went too far that was far out there for a national promotion to do, it was really uncomfortable to watch at times. Especially the needle but the powerbomb on the cinder block was gross too. Swerve is insane that was a Darby level of stupid bump.

[For Great Justice]

Icarus flew too close to the sun in the main event tonight 

[Raziel]

I only saw the cage match... Jesus fucking Christ.

[The Natural]

Bummed out in all honesty.

[The Natural]

AEW Twitter:

"Due to the graphic nature of the attack on Bryan Danielson, we will not be sharing the footage. AEW does not condone such actions."

https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1832618788849680461

[SirFozzie]

We're discussing it on the discord, the only American match from one of the big 3 we could compare it to was Sabu/Funk (Born to Be Wired). That was Faces of Death. This was Saw. Just psychological horror. I almost feel.. unclean having watched two people do that to each other. (even gimmicked/"safe", which a lot of this shit wasn't)

Edited September 8 by SirFozzie