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10 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said:

Why yes... that WAS the Jaws theme you heard emanating from Soldier Field...

The "Alan Williams situation" he refers to is that Chicago's DC is on leave from the team, is possibly AWOL, and something may be up that will ensure he never returns...

That's terribly misleading to report that he just said "Coaching." He said a lot more than that in the interview, and mentioned that the coaches are doing their job, but he is thinking too much about all the data they're giving him during the game.

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That said, what the fuck are the Bears even trying to do on offense? They aren't calling designed runs for Fields, they aren't running any option routes to give Fields easy reads. They can't seem to block anything more exotic than a four defensive lineman rush. 

Like it might very well be true that Fields absolutely isn't the guy (it certainly looks that way) but it feels like they are literally running an offense designed to put him in the positions he's the worst at.

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Some theories is RG3 post injury restraints (no running) with bad offensive coaching & at times either Fields doesn't see the open guy on the play or has the yips on some plays he just won't let it go. The 3 straight same screen plays on the goal line was the biggest low light. 

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7 hours ago, jaedmc said:

That's terribly misleading to report that he just said "Coaching." He said a lot more than that in the interview, and mentioned that the coaches are doing their job, but he is thinking too much about all the data they're giving him during the game.

For what is worth,  when I heard it in context it sounded like he was saying coaching as in,  "the coaches told me that's what I was doing," not that it was the coaches fault. You have to take everything that involves the Bears and translate it into the most confusing and convoluted possible context and then it will almost make a little bit of sense. 

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5 hours ago, Brian Fowler said:

That said, what the fuck are the Bears even trying to do on offense? They aren't calling designed runs for Fields, they aren't running any option routes to give Fields easy reads. They can't seem to block anything more exotic than a four defensive lineman rush. 

Like it might very well be true that Fields absolutely isn't the guy (it certainly looks that way) but it feels like they are literally running an offense designed to put him in the positions he's the worst at.

I don't think we've had a consistent offensive identity since Jay Cutler was handing it off to Matt Forte and throwing to Brandon Marshall. It may not have always been succesful but it looked like football. And we brought in offense oriented coaches and they're either out of their minds or hindered by bad players that they can't coach up.

Last two weeks nothing makes sense. It just feels like they're guessing. I mean Chase Claypool said there were times where he didn't know if they were running a pass or a rush play. Moose on FOX'S commentary pointed out one time that Cole Kmet and DJ Moore ran the same route by mistake. You see and hear shit like that and it makes one wonder if Fields' indecisiveness isn't unjustified. He might call a play and his personnel won't be where he thinks they'll be. How are we this unprepared?

 

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31 minutes ago, Infinit said:

I think Brock will do pretty good against the Giants. Josh Dobbs(!) got 28 fantasy points on them last week.

Considering he played only 2-1/2 quarters and then decided he was done for the day, that's pretty darn good. 

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however many times it's happened, it's surely far fewer times than teams have intentionally stalled their drives at the goal line by trying to trick people with three straight passes instead of continuing the running attack that got them to the goal line in the first place.

It's like the entire sport is determined to memory hole the end of Super Bowl 49.  Grr.

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So the Jags have started the threats that they will leave Jacksonville if taxpayers don't give them a new stadium

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In the aftermath of a poll that showed little public support for $1 billion in taxpayer money for stadium renovations, the Jaguars have begun dropping not-so-subtle hints about potentially leaving town.

“If there’s a referendum, the ballot question should be: Do you want to keep the NFL in Jacksonville?” Jaguars CEO Mark Lamping said at the AXS DRIVE conference in St. Louis, via Ben Fischer of Sports Business Journal.

The current plan circumvents the ballot box, because frankly any public vote for free money for American oligarchs will fail, regardless of how they frame the proposition.

The poll conducted by the University of North Florida shows that only six percent of Jacksonville residents favor paying $1 billion. And 47 percent don’t care if the Jaguars will move without the money.

As pro sports teams that look for handouts often do, the Jaguars are tying the funding to the presence of a franchise, and the presence of a franchise to the city’s legitimacy.

“One thing we can’t do, recognizing that Jacksonville is not going to become a top quartile economy in the NFL, is that we can’t put the team, our fans or even the community in a position where we come up with a stadium solution that doesn’t put us on a path to being able to compete with the average NFL team,” Lamping said.

In other words, Lamping is saying that the small market must give the team a lucrative stadium, or it will exercise its business prerogative to move to a bigger market.

“Look, if Jacksonville loses an NFL team, they’re never going to get another one,” Lamping added. “And if the Jaguars have to relocate from Jacksonville, those of us that went down there would have failed. OK? And none of us want to face that.”

But who knows what they really want to face? Who knows what owner Shad Khan really wants?

The truth is that there have been occasions in which a team owner hoped the current market would fail to deliver something acceptable, so that the owner could move the team somewhere better. That’s what Khan’s former limited partner with the Rams did when Stan Kroenke moved the Rams from St. Louis to L.A. He could have kept the Rams where they were; he wanted to make more money somewhere else.

Still, Khan wouldn’t just pull up the stakes and go to London, or elsewhere. He’d need to position things to permit blame to be placed on someone other than him.

If that’s the plan, Lamping’s comments are the first tangible step in the direction of making sure that, if the Jaguars leave, it won’t be perceived as a blatant money grab but a necessity.

It is a PFT story - so the random editorializing in the blurb are from Florio

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2 hours ago, RIPPA said:

So the Jags have started the threats that they will leave Jacksonville if taxpayers don't give them a new stadium

It is a PFT story - so the random editorializing in the blurb are from Florio

Owners crack me up when they talk about this stuff.  The NFL's TV contracts literally cover every bit of their payroll - and then some.  It's basically impossible to not make a boatload of money as an NFL owner.  Being in Jacksonville doesn't make it harder to compete, LOL.

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13 hours ago, Contentious C said:

How is J.C. Penney still enough of a thing to advertise on football game segments? Haven't they gone bankrupt 8 times this decade?

Simon Property Group who owns a ton of malls bought Penney's and is keeping them afloat, they can't afford to have another anchor store chain go out of business.

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