Robert S Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 16 hours ago, El Gran Gordi said: (...) MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC Winner: WWE firing people during a pandemic during a year where they were setting profit records Agree with @John from Cincinnati that this dosn't particularly seem like a "tactic." Definitely disgusting,though. (...) For completeness sake, the top 10: Quote 1. WWE FIRING PEOPLE DURING A PANDEMIC DURING A YEAR WHERE THEY WERE SETTING PROFIT RECORDS 616 2. WWE operating for months without COVID testing 247 3. WWE stopping talent from third party opportunities 63 4. WWE running in Saudi Arabia 48 5. AEW restarting Matt Hardy vs. Sammy Guevara match 21 6. Rey Mysterio losing his eye angle 19 7. Dana White attempting to run a Native American reservation show in California to get around COVID restrictions 17 8. WWE continuing to employ and push wrestlers with credible sexual allegations against them 15 -. Bushiroad handling the death of Hana Kimura 15 10. WWE Drake Maverick firing storyline with all the real firings 14 a bad list for a bad year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: It's not about one match though or even personal preference. It's about a body of work. Hell, I even forgot to mention them being able to go against Private Party and Dark Order (the Evil Uno & Stu Grayson combo). They got to have great matches with EVERYONE, not just one excellent match. By default, that makes them tag team of the year. But that is personal preference. The people who voted on the matches of the year (Dave's readers) generally vote for what he likes which is personal preferences of one man or one close minded community and then they use that criteria to make up who they believe the best team is on that body of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I believe if DVDVR did an awards it would be quite a bit different than WON. There would be a lot more variety than what we see here. Yes, AEW had a fantastic year and would have a ton of representation but it wouldn't be all AEW for a top ten listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E. Dynamite Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I believe if DVDVR did an awards it would be quite a bit different than WON. There would be a lot more variety than what we see here. Looking forward to the pages of navel-gazing and three paragraph non-apologies after the arguments over why "1996 Battlarts" isn't a valid contender for Promotion of the Year. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: But that is personal preference. The people who voted on the matches of the year (Dave's readers) generally vote for what he likes which is personal preferences of one man or one close minded community and then they use that criteria to make up who they believe the best team is on that body of work. That's extremely silly though because no one expects to have an entirely different viewpoint than the entity putting on the awards. Whoever puts on the awards in ANYTHING is going to have a likeminded voter representation. The only difference is with the WON is you have a face to match the entity. It's very butthurt to be like, "the thing that I love PERSONALLY" just needs to be mentioned so we can have variety. You can still love that thing as an individual without it getting ANY recognition. That's bizarre to need that reinforcement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, John E. Dynamite said: Looking forward to the pages of navel-gazing and three paragraph non-apologies after the arguments over why "1996 Battlarts" isn't a valid contender for Promotion of the Year. The amount of people getting banned would make it simultaneously the FIRST ANNUAL AND ALSO LAST ANNUAL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, John E. Dynamite said: Looking forward to the pages of navel-gazing and three paragraph non-apologies after the arguments over why "1996 Battlarts" isn't a valid contender for Promotion of the Year. Let's rumble! 3 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: It's very butthurt to be like, "the thing that I love PERSONALLY" just needs to be mentioned so we can have variety. You can still love that thing as an individual without it getting ANY recognition. That's bizarre to need that reinforcement. A prompt with this text should appear any time someone talks about Zack Snyder in the DC movies thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Now that I think about it: if everyone here was eligible to vote, the amount of people voting for five or six different things would be eclipsed by the people who vote for what would normally win in the WON (meaning it would dilute and divide the votes for any dark horse nominee). So essentially, you would have the same winner in damn near every category EXCEPT the fifth place runner up would be like some twenty-five way tie made up by like six or seven people who barely post here. That would shatter the illusion of parity and also be hilarious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 The readership of the WON is attracted to it partially because its head likes the same things they like. It's like people being attracted to DVDVR for its love of good punches, Southern tags, and Blitzkreig. All of those things would get lots of awards here, maybe somehow even if said awards are just limited to 2021. Take the WON Awards for what they are: A historical snapshot of a certain segment of hardcore wrestling fans in 2021 and what they dig. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I'd like to see people get angry that the ghost of Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart not be a selectable option in the poll for Wrestler of the Year. That would be the Roe v. Wade of this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 We only need one award. The Mark Henry award. The winner is Mark Henry. Every year. Occasionally Haku might win it, but mainly Mark Henry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Christian's brain for Most Improved! 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said: It's like people being attracted to DVDVR for its love of good punches, Southern tags, and Blitzkreig. All of those things would get lots of awards here, maybe somehow even if said awards are just limited to 2021. Don't forget about MISSILE DROPKICKS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Christian's brain for Most Improved! The healing powers of an AEW offer strike again? (Total speculation). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 38 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: Christian's brain for Most Improved! That's a 2021 winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 I wonder if there was ever a stronger year of "hive mind" voting for the awards. Oddly, there was probably more diverse voting when there was a smaller voting pool, even if it skewed Japan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, Smelly McUgly said: The readership of the WON is attracted to it partially because its head likes the same things they like And that's what I was saying a couple pages ago. There is no Dave Meltzer figure on this board whose opinions are treated as facts. There would be some stark differences (Not that I am advocating for such awards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Just now, Niners Fan in CT said: There would be some stark differences The only stark difference there would be is if there is a better WAR trio than Maki Itoh, Lance Archer, and Bugsy McGraw. Other than that it's going to be a lot of namecalling and trying to invalidate the votes of others. So basically, the response after every WON awards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: There is no Dave Meltzer figure on this board whose opinions are treated as facts. I am, by people who don't watch anything anymore. Um, AEW is probably fine, good for Kingston. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Elsalvajeloco said: The only stark difference there would be is if there is a better WAR trio than Maki Itoh, Lance Archer, and Bugsy McGraw. Other than that it's going to be a lot of namecalling and trying to invalidate the votes of others. So basically, the response after every WON awards. I think a perfect example for this year would be Roman Reigns. Yeah, maybe Moxley still wins Wrestler of the Year but I feel Roman would be very close because people here appreciate the character work and he has worked his ass off to produce a solid body of work during the same time frame. It's not held against him here that he appears on WWE branded television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 And think about how much time Roman missed during the pandemic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said: I think a perfect example for this year would be Roman Reigns. Yeah, maybe Moxley still wins Wrestler of the Year but I feel Roman would be very close because people here appreciate the character work and he has worked his ass off to produce a solid body of work during the same time frame. It's not held against him here that he appears on WWE branded television. It would be because: 1. There is a good segment here that doesn't watch WWE or watch WWE regularly 2. There is a good amount of AEW fans here which frankly pisses off some people here. The AEW fans are going with Mox. The WWE fans will be divided up among people in all three brands. If there was one singular WWE brand or even just only one or two notable WWE wrestlers, you would have a case. There is more avid fandom among several different wrestlers in WWE whereas AEW only has 1-3 people you can really call stars above and beyond everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Other than that it's going to be a lot of namecalling and trying to invalidate the votes of others. And when it's all over, Dominion is going to sue the board for $1.3 billion. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 It would also be interesting for some stats head to look at the awards results from before/after people who subscribed online starting voting versus when it was print subscribers only. Speaking of being print subscriber, the shoddy state of the USPS has led to things like this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Reigns made the top ten in wrestler of the year, best interviews, box office draw, feud, most improved, U.S. MVP, and best gimmick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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