The WON HOF THREAD

[odessasteps]

My ballot 

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I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES (Seven maximum)

Afa  & Sika Anoa'i
Bob Armstrong
June Byers 
Junkyard Dog 
Archie "Mongolian Stomper" Gouldie 
Sputnik Monroe
Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood * 

  
 I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES (Seven maximum)

Paul Orndorff 
Rick & Scott Steiner
  
I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES (Four maximum)

Yoshiaki Fujiwara
Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada 
  
 I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES (Four maximum)

Sangre Chicana
Los Hermanos Dinamita 
 Dorrell Dixon
Mascarita Sagrada

 I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE/AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND/PACIFIC ISLANDS/AFRICA (Three maximum)

Killer Karl Kox 
Johnny Saint
Adrian Street 
  
 NON-WRESTLERS (Seven maximum)

Dave Brown (U.S. & Canada modern) 
Bobby Davis (U.S. & Canada historical) 
James Melby
Morris Sigel (U.S. & Canada historical) 
Kevin Sullivan (U.S. & Canada historical) 
Ted Turner (U.S. & Canada modern) 
Roy Welch (U.S. & Canada historical)

 

[Curt McGirt]

On 10/16/2024 at 3:39 AM, lostinube said:

Anyway, Vinnie Vincent is a "I sabotaged my career with my huge ego" first ballot HOFer.

One more comment, I went on Wiki and remember how he was pissed he didn't get a bigger cut of Kiss? Look how much he made anyway: 

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Following his departure from Kiss in mid-1984, Vincent used the money he made from his tenure in the band to take a long vacation, traveling the world for a full year and visiting places like Tahiti, Philippines, Mozambique, India, and Europe, including a visit to the small town of Mora in Dalarna, Sweden.

But he wanted points on the package. No wonder they dumped him. 

[RazorbladeKiss87]

1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

One more comment, I went on Wiki and remember how he was pissed he didn't get a bigger cut of Kiss? Look how much he made anyway: 

But he wanted points on the package. No wonder they dumped him. 

If I could make my guitar do the things he did, I'd have an ego too. I bet the interactions with Gene were priceless. 

[The Natural]

Meltzer:

The Hall of Fame Observer issue will be out Thursday night. The issue will have a giant breakdown and story, with nine new inductees this year and notes on how they got in, favorites for next year, and more.

A thought as I was writing up this issue. Although people will make their marks over the next few years, what current wrestlers who have never been on the ballot could be expected to be contenders or Hall of Famers? There’s the obvious one, but really only one. There is a second who I can see a case for. Usually, there would be a half dozen or more. You either have young guys who maybe in 5-10 years will break out or people who have already been on the ballot.  

[Cobra Commander]

Is Arn Anderson the Al Oliver of wrestling? In the sense that he’s not in the picture to be a member of the Observer HOF so he might just be a Hall of Very Good guy who could fit his spot

[odessasteps]

The line famously used to be Murdoch and Gordy. 
 

Nine inductees is a lot, since I’m guessing a couple tag teams. 

[The Natural]

I see Roman Reigns, Shingo Takagi and the Young Bucks getting in. Roman Reigns definitely should, wouldn't mind if Shingo Takagi does. Bucks certainly shouldn't. Might Moxley?

[Technico Support]

I want the Bucks to get in, primarily because of their impact on wrestling and because I do find them to be very good (I don't want to argue with anyone here).  But also for the lulz.  Mainly for the lulz.

[The Natural]

11 hours ago, Technico Support said:

I want the Bucks to get in, primarily because of their impact on wrestling and because I do find them to be very good (I don't want to argue with anyone here).  But also for the lulz.  Mainly for the lulz.

It'll certainly bring the lulz as the Bucks are so divisive. You either really like them or really don't. I'm the latter.

Edited November 12, 2024 by The Natural

[The Natural]

Cody Rhodes and CM Punk will get in at some point. Punk probably takes a while as he splits opinion like the Bucks do.

Edited November 12, 2024 by The Natural

[AxB]

I don't see any way Cody gets in and the Bucks don't. You can point to Cody being a main eventer in his second WWE run, but then, across his career, who was he before his ROH run? An unexceptional midcard guy living off his surname. Whereas the Bucks were a big deal on the indie circuit for basically their whole careers. Their part in launching Pro Wrestling Tees is a large part of making it possible for American Indie wrestlers to wrestle fulltime and not have to work around day jobs (obviously Colt Cabana is the main guy there, but he's not making any bigtime HoF, is he?). And in terms of "AEW exists because of them" impact on the business, does Cody really deserve more credit for that than the Bucks do? I don't see it.

[assfax]

They's a part of PWTs?  I love that site.  This is like, the first indivisibly good thing I've heard about these guys.  I've just never seen them other than dude's bitchin'/praising them.  Maybe saw them on some old PWG shit.

[username]

Cody has hit the capital A "Ace" level now, it takes a lot to not make a hall of fame once you reach that. The Bucks have their own argument in their favor (I don't care for them personally but I wouldn't object to their inclusion) but I think theirs and Cody's are somewhat different despite the brief common ground.

 

I'm less interested in who makes it in and more in the absurd Vince McMahon recall deal, think he's an awful person but not worse than Benoit and there are several others in the hall who have allegations of a similar severity against them who I don't recall any push to get rid of.

[odessasteps]

There’s no point in having a wrestling HOF if Vince isn’t in it.

a nice guy wrestling hall of fame would have Tito, Bobby Eaton and not many more people.,

[username]

23 hours ago, odessasteps said:

a nice guy wrestling hall of fame would have Tito, Bobby Eaton and not many more people.,

It would be the one time everyone would agree that Adam Cole is a potential hall of famer though!

[odessasteps]

Except maybe Britt? (Too soon) 

[Hamhock]

On 11/12/2024 at 12:14 AM, The Natural said:

Punk probably takes a while as he splits opinion like the Bucks do.

Hell with it - antagonize everyone and join all three together on the ballot; YOU MUST VOTE ALL THREE IN FOR THEM TO BE INDUCTED!

[odessasteps]

I’m fine with that.

[The Natural]

On 11/11/2024 at 5:03 AM, The Natural said:

Meltzer:

The Hall of Fame Observer issue will be out Thursday night. The issue will have a giant breakdown and story, with nine new inductees this year and notes on how they got in, favorites for next year, and more.

A thought as I was writing up this issue. Although people will make their marks over the next few years, what current wrestlers who have never been on the ballot could be expected to be contenders or Hall of Famers? There’s the obvious one, but really only one. There is a second who I can see a case for. Usually, there would be a half dozen or more. You either have young guys who maybe in 5-10 years will break out or people who have already been on the ballot.  

 

On 11/11/2024 at 5:34 PM, The Natural said:

I see Roman Reigns, Shingo Takagi and the Young Bucks getting in. Roman Reigns definitely should, wouldn't mind if Shingo Takagi does. Bucks certainly shouldn't. Might Moxley?

 

On 11/12/2024 at 5:12 AM, The Natural said:

It'll certainly bring the lulz as the Bucks are so divisive. You either really like them or really don't. I'm the latter.

Here's the nine:

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The results are in and the 9 inductees for the 2024 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame Class are: Roman Reigns (66.7%), Shingo Takagi (65.6%), Paul Orndorff (63.7%), Johnny Rougeau (62.7%), Young Bucks/Los Hermanos Dinamita (61.3% tied) and CIMA/Johnny Saint/Bobby Davis (60.3% tied)

Really happy Roman Reigns is in. Like Shingo Takagi and Johnny Saint are. The Young Bucks will be very controversial.

 

[The Natural]

Hopefully RIPPA will post more percentages like he usually does. I'd like to know what CM Punk, Cody Rhodes and Jon Moxley got.

[EVA]

I don’t care about this HOF at all, but I see zero credible argument against the Bucks getting in. Even if you don’t like their in-ring, they were THE key players of the mid-10’s indie boom and instrumental in launching AEW. Their impact on the last 10 years of the business has been incredible. They made money for a lot of people.

 

[Technico Support]

Cornette and other “traditionalists” shitting on Meltzer’s HOF incoming.  

Edited November 15, 2024 by Technico Support

[SirSmUgly]

I learned more about Bobby Davis during the run-up to this voting period and am glad to see he made it, as well as Johnny Saint.

This class seems perfectly reasonably chosen, TBH. 

[Just Adam Bay Bay]

4 hours ago, EVA said:

I don’t care about this HOF at all, but I see zero credible argument against the Bucks getting in. Even if you don’t like their in-ring, they were THE key players of the mid-10’s indie boom and instrumental in launching AEW. Their impact on the last 10 years of the business has been incredible. They made money for a lot of people.

 

I get people pulling for Punk (as I would be too) and Cody (certainly for his current run, as well as his impact in helping AEW get its start), but I really don’t get how people could in good faith say The Bucks shouldn’t get in but Moxley should.
 

When has Moxley ever been the top draw other than his AEW run? In WWE he was on top with Rollins and Reigns, and even as a solo act his biggest run was against Seth. I don’t think his run as WWE Champion was anything special other than him being the one AJ Styles beat to start his first reign. Yes the booking can be blamed for some but not all of it. This is the same guy that thought Brock Lesnar should work a full on death match with him at WrestleMania then trashed Brock and the company for not allowing that crap. Like does he not realize that’s a) their biggest show of the year and b) the time more families are turning in too? I can almost see parents wanting their kids to see him stick a fork in Brock’s head or have Brock give him an F5 through a cinder block wrapped in barbed wire or whatever other nonsense Mox would’ve come up with.

[Just Adam Bay Bay]

On 11/11/2024 at 12:34 PM, The Natural said:

I see Roman Reigns, Shingo Takagi and the Young Bucks getting in. Roman Reigns definitely should, wouldn't mind if Shingo Takagi does. Bucks certainly shouldn't. Might Moxley?

So out of curiosity and because I really don’t know how you’ll answer this. When Will Ospreay gets on the ballot do you see enough quality in his work to say he should get in? I know he’s basically the singles version of the Bucks to you, but he’s always had more highly rated matches by the guy that runs said Hall Of Fame too.