odessasteps Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, zendragon said: As to the make up thing. I remember hearing that Vince expects everyone back stage to be camera ready and in ring gear backstage before the show. I wouldn't be surprised if this applies to all on air talent if the need someone to do a pre tape or something That would stink for someone with elaborate gear or make up, like the Boogeyman . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, odessasteps said: That would stink for someone with elaborate gear or make up, like the Boogeyman . Unless he had it tattooed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumanChessgame Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Wasn't there some big to-do several years back about how they instituted a backstage business casual dress code and wrestlers could get fined for not dressing appropriately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Yeah, but you could get away with it depending on star status and gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) They were just talking about the big hullabaloo on BTS about Bischoff leaving a show early cus he wasn’t scheduled for anything on a PPV, that ended up pissing off Vince, and Hunter. So yeah they expect you to be ready for anything backstage. Edited September 20, 2020 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, LoneWolf&Subs said: They were just talking about the big hullabaloo on BTS about Bischoff leaving a show early cus he wasn’t scheduled for anything on a PPV, that ended up pissing off Vince, and Hunter. So yeah they expect you to be ready for anything backstage. Wasn't that Rumble '05? Bischoff was supposed to be the one they sent out to save the botched ending and he was nowhere to be found. So the match getting fucked up combined with Eric being gone is what gave us that classic Vince moment. So I say, it was great that he left. Edited September 20, 2020 by PetrolCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) I hate this new button placement. Edited September 20, 2020 by PetrolCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, PetrolCB said: Yeah, but you could get away with it depending on star status and gimmick. WWE policy in a nutshell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I understand corporate procedure and everything, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. Having to be camera-ready 24/7, especially if you're just staff, is some bullshit. Anyway, who aside from Rick (besides some exceptions) has ever been totally heel throughout their entire career? I was thinking Vader but then remembered the Baby Bull period he had. Brock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, twiztor said: WWE policy in a nutshell Id say that is most sports teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: I understand corporate procedure and everything, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. Having to be camera-ready 24/7, especially if you're just staff, is some bullshit. Anyway, who aside from Rick (besides some exceptions) has ever been totally heel throughout their entire career? I was thinking Vader but then remembered the Baby Bull period he had. Brock? My bet would someone who played a foreign heel or had an "ugly" gimmick like the French Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) It's hard, when you think about it. Even Abby had a period in PR where he was happy dancing Abdullah the Butcher, right? EDIT: The Sheik. Sheik was NEVER a face, ever, anywhere. Edited September 20, 2020 by Curt McGirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 When was Bob Orton, Jr a face? I’m sure he was, but I don’t know. Harris Brothers come to mind too, but I don’t want to know that answer unless it’s about what part of the country to never go visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: It's hard, when you think about it. Even Abby had a period in PR where he was happy dancing Abdullah the Butcher, right? EDIT: The Sheik. Sheik was NEVER a face, ever, anywhere. Abby was a face in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matt D said: When was Bob Orton, Jr a face? I’m sure he was, but I don’t know. Harris Brothers come to mind too, but I don’t want to know that answer unless it’s about what part of the country to never go visit. Orton was a face in JCP before he turned on Flair to collect Harley's bounty, wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Abby was also a face (sort of) in JCP/WCW briefly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: I understand corporate procedure and everything, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. Having to be camera-ready 24/7, especially if you're just staff, is some bullshit. Anyway, who aside from Rick (besides some exceptions) has ever been totally heel throughout their entire career? I was thinking Vader but then remembered the Baby Bull period he had. Brock? Brock was a face in OVW, and briefly during his first run in the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said: Anyway, who aside from Rick (besides some exceptions) has ever been totally heel throughout their entire career? The Gambler. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) Only people I can think of are Ventura & Heenan. Unless you can prove definitely that all jobbers are babyfaces. Which they aren’t. They are opportunistic losers. Which I’m sure both got their starts playing those rookie parts. Edited September 20, 2020 by LoneWolf&Subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxB Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I mean, plenty of heels kept the same gimmick & character throughout their career, and basically the fans decided they liked them so they became de facto babyfaces despite retaining their heel personality. The Rock, Roddy Piper, Cactus Jack, Sandman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf&Subs Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AxB said: I mean, plenty of heels kept the same gimmick & character throughout their career, and basically the fans decided they liked them so they became de facto babyfaces despite retaining their heel personality. The Rock, Roddy Piper, Cactus Jack, Sandman... If I can’t find any archival proof that Heenan ever played a face, then Heenan was never a face. He might’ve technically sided with WCW during their “War”, but he always found a way to compliment the nWo. Even on Double Dare, Bobby didn’t play a face. Edit: I want to say The “Original” Sheik never played face, but he did manage Sabu that one night. Sabu’s affiliation was questionable in his brief WCW run though. Edited September 21, 2020 by LoneWolf&Subs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, odessasteps said: My bet would someone who played a foreign heel or had an "ugly" gimmick like the French Angel. Iron Sheik, maybe? I can't remember the Sheik gimmick being a babyface anywhere, though Khosrow worked face at the very beginning of his career? I don't think Baron Corbin's ever been a babyface. IIRC, he's never wrestled anywhere except the WWE system and I don't remember him ever being a face in NXT. KInda surprising, considering almost everyone turns at some point in the WWE. Who was never a heel? Steamboat?. He debuted as a babyface and he supposedly got his ring name because Eddie Graham thought his "Richard Blood" was a heel name. I don't think he ever worked heel in Florida or for Crockett (or WWF). Did Bruno work heel anywhere? Not that I can remember. It seems like Rey should have been a lifelong face but I can think of at least two heel runs (Promo Azteca and WCW briefly when he joined the Flithy Animals). Cena was a heel when he did the Prototype gimmick, wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just drew Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said: I understand corporate procedure and everything, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. Having to be camera-ready 24/7, especially if you're just staff, is some bullshit. Anyway, who aside from Rick (besides some exceptions) has ever been totally heel throughout their entire career? I was thinking Vader but then remembered the Baby Bull period he had. Brock? Paul Roma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyWhioux Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Paul Roma was actually a face when he was a Horseman, though forgetting that period is understandable (envious, even) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoae Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, just drew said: Paul Roma? Roma was a face for most of his time in WWF. Maybe all his time. He mostly worked heels and a jobber, then he formed a babyface tag team with Jim Powers called the Young Stallions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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