Raziel Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Brysynner said: I don't follow puroresu anymore but muscular American heel is not a good role in Japan anymore? Much as Gedo likes his gajin's, the roles of Monster American and American Heel are already filled, by superior workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brysynner Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 1 hour ago, RIPPA said: I am not sure it is Vince making a low offer it is Ryback being of the opinion that he should be paid the same as Main Eventers According to Ryback's Tumblr, that's exactly what it is. I think he's okay with there being some pay discrepancy but not as big as the company makes it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Brysynner said: I don't follow puroresu anymore but muscular American heel is not a good role in Japan anymore? Also I think it was on Jericho's podcast, he was looking in to doing the motivational speaker gimmick so he could do that and wrestle an odd indy show here and there. I am curious how low the offer Vince made was The main issue is that very few promotions in Japan have the money to fly over Americans anymore on a regular basis (ie not just for one tour or one big show), and the few that do (New Japan, Dragon Gate) don't really need any at the moment. Ryback in W-1 would be great, for example, but it isn't in their budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 I can't get it to load at the moment but apparently Ryback made a Tumblr post and it appears he has quit the company I will update once I can get fucking links to work EDIT - Okay his version is that he asked to be taken off TV until a deal is worked out but it is obvious the WWE wont agree to his demands and he knows full well they might release him http://thebigguyryback22.tumblr.com/ basically he is challenging the entire pay structure of wrestling (in his mind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 From the outside looking in, wrestling feels like a monarchy when it should be a meritocracy. I can just imagine how it feels from the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zev Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Ryback's quitting is just taking the Punk cosplay to the next level. In July he'll announce he's going to the UFC. He can come back in a year or two as a part timer and make the big bucks and get the WM shine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brysynner Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 By the way Ryback's not wrong. Yes there's difference in value between Roman Reigns and Heath Slater, but how much of that is due to Joe Anoa'i and Heath Miller and how much of that is due to WWE Creative and the whims of Vince McMahon? Would it hurt WWE to make the payscale closer so a good mechanic would get a base pay similar to that of the top guy? The top guy still gets perks like more merch and things of that nature. Maybe allow the guys to get sponsorships without WWE choosing who gets to be the sponsor for something...plus with UFC Reebok issues, WWE could point to themselves and say see you can make more money with us if you're good enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I can't be the only person who wants TNA to bring Ryback in as "Ryfront", can I? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Sweetser Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 "It's The Large Fellow!" 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 LET ME EAT! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 He's right on what he said. The people who win more = Get paid more, get better booking, get to look better and end up having better wrestling and non-wrestling options outside of WWE. The people who lose more = "Sorry, creative has nothing for you", "We wish you well on your future endeavors", "Hey we got this new stiff from developmental, don't complain when he legit kicks you in the head and you get hurt when you lose to him tonight, k?". The problem is WWE decides who is going to be a star, not the fans, as we are seeing weekly with Reigns vs the fans. They could make Primo the next Reigns and due to the "no one is bigger than the brand mentality", it wouldn't matter. But what we are seeing is this - WWE ratings have been going down for over a decade and don't see to be picking up. They aren't even 1/4th of where they were when they were hot, and until HHH takes over, it's hard to see anything changing. Yeah, they are always going to get the 2,000 who want to see the show when it is town, but they don't even advertise who will be there, so it doesn't matter. They can also play with the numbers any way they want with the network, but 2 million is their ceiling at their peak, and that's globally. Not only in the states, and it's really not impressive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Dave Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Ryback strikes me as maybe a guy who could do that quasi workout guru motivational speaker gimmick like Tony Horton or something. Still wrestle occasionally. I WAS just thinking today how frustrating it must be for guys like Swagger, Ziggler, Barrett, Sheamus and him to have passed over for this "new era" when all they've done is whatever WWE has asked of them. In Barrett's case, he was injured more often than he wasn't, but for him to have to sit there and watch guys like Zayn, Styles, and Owens pass him on the card has to be frustrating. They're all more talented than him, sure, but Ryback was a guy who they put considerable time and money into, and when some facet of his program went wrong, they abandoned ship. It wouldn't shock me to see a mass exodus here before too long of guys like Ryback and Ziggler, especially if they don't move their asses with this rumored brand split. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comedian Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 49 minutes ago, Michael Sweetser said: "It's The Large Fellow!" Apparently part of his problem with WWE stems from the fact that he filed for a trademark for "The Big Guy" before the company did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Legit question: who was more over at their hottest: ryback or reigns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, JohnnyJ said: Legit question: who was more over at their hottest: ryback or reigns? Ryback, because Roman at his hottest was a heel in a heel stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Burgundy LaRue said: LET ME EAT! Well if he goes to TNA, that'll be pretty truthful 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Vader does my taxes! said: I can't be the only person who wants TNA to bring Ryback in as "Ryfront", can I? "Guyback. Man, is he big." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Adam Rose posted his doctor's note He was poped for adderall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Just now, Morganti said: Adam Rose posted his doctor's note He was poped for adderall Just living the gimmick. Long after the gimmick did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Adderall is seriously on the banned list? That's ridiculous. You can say the same for weed. But, I guess you can't have anyone doing a Make A Wish while smelling like Otto's jacket, can you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 I'm pretty sure Adderall is on everyone's no no list without a specific waiver (that is what Chris Davis got popped for in baseball) And it is definitely on WADA's banned list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Meanie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ryback really needs to invest in his own program, Ryback's Tweet Delete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, RIPPA said: I'm pretty sure Adderall is on everyone's no no list without a specific waiver (that is what Chris Davis got popped for in baseball) And it is definitely on WADA's banned list Yeah, I'm aware of it in MLB. I just wanted to sound like a network talking head, apparently. Honestly didn't think adderall was still a "thing". Garnering such strictness and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTTW Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 7 hours ago, Brysynner said: I don't follow puroresu anymore but muscular American heel is not a good role in Japan anymore? Also I think it was on Jericho's podcast, he was looking in to doing the motivational speaker gimmick so he could do that and wrestle an odd indy show here and there. I am curious how low the offer Vince made was I'm more thinking in terms of style. Nothing I've seen or heard about Ryback suggest he would be a good fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Eh, would Ryback be any less likely to catch on in New Japan than Juice Robinson/CJ Parker? Ryback should have known the contract negotiation wasn't going to go well when he walked into Vince's office and said "Feed me more" and Vince's reply was "I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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