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AEW TV - 12/6 - 12/12/2023 - Always Bet On Black

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HarryArchieGus

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OC v Angelico was a solid opener. I'd love a new coat of paint on Angelico. Drop the neon and the goofy, ratchet up the painful human knots. Danny House'n and Serp did well with their minutes there too. Riccaboni selling OC's pockets as providing power as opposed to the house brand sell of it being a manipulation tactic is a great example of the flawed (and irritating) portion of Ian's generally favourable game. Abadon v Trish Adora was a perfectly fine competitive enhancement bout. How does Julia v Abadon in a title match reflect the Division for you? Well, I guess it's better than having to endure more Jade Cargill Title matches. The TNT title sure has a rich shitty history. Hobbs/Takeshita v Sydal/Daniels was alright. I sometimes wonder if Hobbs wrestling mainly squashes has hindered his ability to know what to do inbetween moves. He sometimes seems lost in there with his mean mug. And the powerslam finish is nowhere near as devastating as it must look on the booking sheet. Takeshita looked good here, and Sydal/Daniels are an excellent enhancement team. Don is a treat on commentary, and I like the idea of 'The Australian Psycho' Kyle Fletcher being some sort of take on Patrick Bateman. Top Flight promo was fine. Dante seems like he's been working on his promo game over his recovery. He's been sounding confident. Looking forward to the bout v Penta's crew. Bryan Danielson v Daniel Garcia was fucking awesome. No surprise. 'Oui, Oui!' Goddamn that was hot down the stretch. Loved the placement of the Dance just prior to getting his head knocked off. Dickhead Danielson spitting on Daniel after is an odd choice for a babyface, but Bryan has earned the right do whatever the fuck he wants to. That's a strong contender for best CC match thus far. Tho, Ed Kingston's got a nice catalog of matches started over there in the Blue League. If not Kingston or Danielson, Mark Briscoe's been kinda the MVP for me. Tho, I guess there's a case for just about everybody in this tournament. Yeah, even Jay Lethal.

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HarryArchieGus

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On 12/9/2023 at 7:54 AM, Matt D said:

At first watch, I think that was the best match in the tournament so far. Here’s the spitting explanation.

https://x.com/AEW/status/1733340946442379483?s=20

"I call you when I need you, my heart's on fire
You come to me, come to me wild and wild
When you come to me
Give me everything I need

Give me a lifetime of promises and a world of dreams
Speak a language of love like you know what it means
MMm, and it can't be wrong
Take my heart and make it strong, baby
You're simply the best
Better than all the rest
Better than anyone
Anyone I've ever met
I'm stuck on your heart
I hang on every word you say
Tear us apart
Baby, I would rather be dead"
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Words by Michael Chapman and Holly Knight; powered by Tina Turner
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JLowe

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On 12/7/2023 at 10:29 AM, Sex Machine Gun said:

"Say, that was pretty good, Toni Storm's done a total 180 since six months ago! Please don't fuck this up."

(Riho arrives)

"THIS IS WHY I DON'T GET EXCITED"

My sentiments exactly 

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On 12/7/2023 at 3:46 PM, Curt McGirt said:

I finally learned to like Emi after she lost the Freddie cosplay. Riho might look least like a wrestler than most anyone on the roster but she can work. Shida is my target of the three, and probably always will be. Never liked her work and pushed to the moon. 

Really, considering this, they could use some fresh joshi talent. That is, if there's room, when we can only squeeze in one whole women's match a card.

Emi is old school and makes everyone in the ring with her look better. Shida is not a fave and I don’t think she’s championship level and she could stand to be a little more stiff. I don’t have anything kind to say about Riho and we’ll leave it there.

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Curt McGirt

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- Eddie looked more like a zombie here than he did with the gas can; you could just not put the fucker down. Rollup is a passable finish I guess. The ladies steal it (and basically the entire match structure: heel beats and beats on face until fluke pinfall) later on. 

- Omega/Page was passable. I think Page had a better match with somebody I can't recall back during the pandemic. Omega definitely has a different gear than other wrestlers and here it really showed. Still, the crowd loved it and Ethan got a moment in the spotlight. They also ate up the tag match. Loved the "Daddy Magic" chant that stopped Penta in his tracks. 

- Miro's new role as sexist asshole husband is just woooonderful. Yuck. Whoever's idea that was needs to be spanked. 

- The American Clamdigger (TM Nigel) is indeed certifiable. Not only did they cut the eyebrow, not only did he bust his nose, not only did they work the eye but they tossed the patch entirely and he threw headbutts! Now I know these guys are professionals and they know what they can and can't do but one slip-up could fuck him up worse than he thinks the risk is. The end with Andrade going completely HAM on him and wrecking his shit was definitely the way to make Bryan drop a fall. You forget that Andrade, like some of the other guys, has three finishers too: the figure eight, the back elbow, and the DDT. While not as good as the Garcia match it's pretty apples to oranges as Dragon had to work off his back foot the entire time. 

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Eddie vs Claudio was very good as expected and I dug the roll-up finish, that is something it feels like we haven't seen in any of the CC matches yet (unless I missed it).

Working a match around Andrade attacking and busting open Bryan's legitimately injured eye socket was a fucking choice. Good gravy. That said, I actually thought the first match they had was better once they got past the initial horror of the injury. Hopefully this is a heel turn cemented for Andrade leading to him vs Miro, because if not, what was the point of all that.

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JLowe

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Danielson is a psycho. He’s making sure this is his last year wrestling at this pace. Andrade ostensibly being a face now while doing a ton of heel stuff, and then trying to be a face afterwards checking on Brian was weird.

Also, weren’t Rampage and Collision taped the same day? Did Brian wrestle two matches?

Eddie-Claudio was great, I was a little drunk watching it last night and got totally sucked in to it. Again, the storytelling going on in this tournament is aces.

Willow-Mercedes was very good but they made the mistake of basically having the exact same finish as the match before.

Kenny-Ethan Page was one of those Kenny matches he gets critiqued for by some where there really isn’t any “heart” or heft to it, just “we are going to wrestle a match with a lot of moves and reversals that will get highly rated”. I couldn’t get into it, other than the perfect timing on Ethan’s first cutter.

I’m not sure Wardlow can be salvaged at this point, at least for me. I watched for Willie Mack, otherwise I would’ve FFWD.

Tag match was fine, good for 2.0 to get a TV match in their hometown.

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Craig H

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1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

The problem is that Miro is DEFINITELY the heel in this situation now. Jealous husband who wants the woman to stay at home and clean instead of having her own social life and career is not a face.

Dude, this whole storyline with Miro, Andrade, and CJ makes me so uncomfortable. We said this forever ago when Miro and CJ did something similar in WWE that they need to heed Macho Man’s words when it comes to working angles with your wife. As it is, the whole storyline feels like it needs a Brazzers or other porn company watermark on it. Even down to the acting. CJ and Miro are so insistent on acting and they’re just not close to being good at it.

Anyway, if in a year from now Andrade leaves Charlotte for CJ I won’t be surprised.

In fact, when was the last time a real life couple working an angle with each other actually worked and was good?

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HarryArchieGus

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I love the Opening Promo Montage, but a mixed bag on the quick promos this week. 'One of the biggest Canadian showdowns in history' says Ethan Page. Hmmm? One of the better 'Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting' opening vids. Kingston v Castagnoli was so good. That's how you do a worthwhile flash pin finish. I like that they keep flirting with a draw, but have yet to do one. Moxley Promo was solid. Hook/Yuta promo was fine. Yuta's come along on the mic, but let's get him a breathing coach. Willow v Mercedes was a fun TV bout. Mercedes is such a good hard nosed heel. Weak finish there, but it's nice to see Willow get back on the winning track. Judging by the recent crowds, she's clearly been hurt by the lackadaisical booking. The Stat save coming from the other side, and with music, was so illogical. Let me get this straight, she was hanging out on the other side of the arena just waiting, knowing the heels would attack? If so why did it take her so long? Curious how she signaled to the truck to play her music?  Hager/Menard/Parker promo was good. Filtering in some arena sound under these pre-tapes in post might be something to consider. Swerve promo was fine if a bit silly. A good writer to help with bullet points would be a real help. Wardlow v Mack was pretty good until the rotten finish. The ref stoppage gimmick, as in this case (and most), always comes off so awkward. Why bother? Just put a foot on the chest and count the three for 'crying out loud'. Complaints aside, I like Wardy working competitive squashes as opposed to quick meaningless local talent squashes. He does some impressive stuff made all the more impressive against a big Mack truck like Willie. Kenny Omega v Ethan Page was a terrific TV bout. Kenny is poetry in motion. Page's cut off cutter was excellent. Page looked good here. I was excited for this match, but it's a bit of a headscratcher while selling Page v Nese on the ROHPPV as something significant. Nice Big Boot from Big Bill. CJ Perry/Miro promo was ridiculous and tone deaf. Kommander/Penta v Mendard/Parker was pretty solid. Nice reaction for the Quebecers. Keith Lee/Shane Taylor video was alright. Very interested to see how that one plays out. Danielson v Andrade was nasty fun. Andrade's fall fashions are hilariously awful. Kind of an 'American Males' look there. Not a big fan of the finish. I really like Andrade's work, but I don't see much of a point having a WWE bound midcarder going over Danielson. Looking forward to Claudio v Andrade. Might be of assistance to the audience to announce some matches for next week, no? Still, alotta fun was had over the course of this 120 minutes. 

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TheVileOne

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All criticisms and nitpicks aside, enjoyable show tonight. The Continental Classic tournament continues to be a good showcase. I like the whole vibe of the tournament so far and the post-match interviews where you have the guys stewing in their losses or Danielson acting quietly intense while meditating.

Nice touch on that Wardlow/Willie Mack match with having Wardlow walk away after that filthy powerbomb and not even waiting for the ring announcement. It was like the wrestling equivalent of a Mark Hunt walkoff KO. I hope Wardlow is getting back on track here and he's put on the path of Joe or MJF next.

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ExcellenceofAirPollution

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My impression is that the Miro and CJ stuff is his/their idea.  It's felt all along like he's kinda been booking his own stuff, like all the references to her in his promos were a way to get her hired by building it up with fans....he's supposedly been 'difficult' when it comes to jobs......I have no reason to believe they aren't totally on board with all this....

which is baffling to me.  The cuckold angle with Lashley ruined Miro in WWE.  If the idea is to play off of that but course correct it and deliver it the way it was supposed to be done (I believe I've heard both of them say in interviews that that angle would have been better if they'd been allowed to do what they wanted with it or somesuch, they blamed WWE), well, good luck with all that. 

It doesn't help that they chose Andrade for it who's great in the ring but doesn't seem like he actually wants to be there.  And Jah bless CJ but she's a terrible actress, someone needs to break it to her

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