Elsalvajeloco Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The best thing about the long ass discovery for the UFC anti trust lawsuit (I think Obama was still president when discovery started) is all the other promotions not wanting their dirt to come up. That and the last five weeks or so, we've been getting all the real purses that Ronda, Conor, Brock, etc. made trickling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: The best thing about the long ass discovery for the UFC anti trust lawsuit (I think Obama was still president when discovery started) is all the other promotions not wanting their dirt to come up. That and the last five weeks or so, we've been getting all the real purses that Ronda, Conor, Brock, etc. made trickling in. Yeah, discovery is a loooooooong process for anti-trust matters, which is why cases like the MLW one often get settled rather than litigated (because keeping those lawyers on retainer is often way more expensive than whatever potential damages would get paid out anyway). And discovery makes most people squeamish. It should. It's uncomfortable. Heck, my track record re: background is glistening and I've gone pale(r than usual) about vetting processes for some of my gigs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Look at how sports leagues always make sure inter league squabbles don’t go to court, to avoid the secrets bein* revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I'm bringing this ninnery over here so as to not continue polluting the other thread. Those gray lines are pretty fucking flat. Also consider that cable loses about 12-13% of its subscribers every year. WWE doing phenomenally does not mean AEW isn't doing very well. Collision debuted before college football season, which began at the end of August. From September to present, Collision is also relatively flat, even with the loss of Punk. The momentary craters are PLEs, which no one expected Collision to be able to compete with. The below link shows that Dynamite ticket sales are actually *UP* from Q4 last year to Q4 this year. https://wrestlenomics.com/2023/12/13/wrestletix-aew-dynamite-wed-dec-13-college-park-center-at-arlington-tx/ Why did I have to do this again? Better question: why couldn't you have done this YOURSELF? None of this was behind a paywall. I can't stress this enough -- don't jump into a discussion about numbers unless you're willing to do the (very minimal) homework. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, Dog said: I can't stress this enough -- don't jump into a discussion about numbers unless you're willing to do the (very minimal) homework. If you want to discuss ticket sales we can definitely do that. I will pull the comparison numbers for the last time they were in each arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I mean, that's why we're here, chief. Just don't cherry pick. Show us everything for at least the last six months. And not Dynamite-to-Collision; same shows only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Sparkleface said: Yeah, discovery is a loooooooong process for anti-trust matters, which is why cases like the MLW one often get settled rather than litigated (because keeping those lawyers on retainer is often way more expensive than whatever potential damages would get paid out anyway). And discovery makes most people squeamish. It should. It's uncomfortable. Heck, my track record re: background is glistening and I've gone pale(r than usual) about vetting processes for some of my gigs. "whats this about a James Iha crush?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Sparkleface said: keeping those lawyers on retainer is often way more expensive And Jesus, WWE probably has their own private practice in lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Wonder who it is now that McDevitt retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanie Sparkleface Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 hours ago, zendragon said: "whats this about a James Iha crush?" See? If I'm willing to admit that publicly, imagine what horrible sad moments from my past I'm hiding from y'all! NOBODY SUE ME 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Well look at that. Three rock solid numbers for Collision. Sorry if that destroys anyone's narrative. (no I'm not) P.S. The movies TNT programmed in this spot before typically did about a 0.12 in the demo, if you're wondering how WBD might view this. Edited December 19, 2023 by Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Hey(EW!) i made charts again showing the yearly ratings for each of the AEW shows and compared them with last year's. As a reminder, 2022 saw ratings normalize for Dynamite, with most of the upward and downward spikes smoothed over. That also gave them a higher overall average rating score. https://ibb.co/M1VKbkJ Dynamite Ratings 2022 vs. 2023. solidly down across the board. 2022 had an average of 955.7 thousand, 2023 was at 864.3 thousand. https://ibb.co/ZSHwMKs Rampage Ratings. i included 2021 on this just because the debut episodes are SO out of whack with reality due to the hugeness of Punk's initial signing. Interesting that it doesn't really see a sharp decline once Collision begins. https://ibb.co/SPXWPmq Collision ratings for 2023. red line shows when Punk left. not much data to compare to, but a very unsteady decline throughout its existence. edit: can't get the images to embed. tried multiple browsers, phone vs. pc, all that good stuff. Edited January 2 by twiztor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Might have to use Firefox for images to embed. Or some other browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Kang said: Might have to use Firefox for images to embed. Or some other browser. 3 hours ago, twiztor said: can't get the images to embed. tried multiple browsers, phone vs. pc, all that good stuff. or we could fix the board that has given people issues for years now and is continuously getting worse? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Wilson Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 hours ago, twiztor said: or we could fix the board that has given people issues for years now and is continuously getting worse? We don't have a 'fix the board' expert on staff, unless you are volunteering? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 You literally just have to take the "s" out of the "https" in the url field so it's just "http" and it works every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 So was thinking of going to the Dynamite taping at Pru Center and I check TicketScammer. They seem to have set up the building for maybe 5k and the get in price is $60. Look at what has been advertised and tell me who in their right mind is going to pay SIXTY FUCKING DOLLARS to see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 Is there anything you can pay less than $60 to go to anymore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The cinema? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 34 minutes ago, sabremike said: So was thinking of going to the Dynamite taping at Pru Center and I check TicketScammer. They seem to have set up the building for maybe 5k and the get in price is $60. Look at what has been advertised and tell me who in their right mind is going to pay SIXTY FUCKING DOLLARS to see that? That might be a weird flex pricing thing with either really high or really low demand at the current moment (I have no idea how it works, honestly, other than that it's probably another fucking TM scam) because right now there are tickets as low as $25-27 on StubHub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Posted January 3 Author Share Posted January 3 Check Ticketmaster around 2-3pm on Wednesday. They often open up good seats for cheap. I got seats for me and my son for $40 each doing that. We were on the floor right on the ramp. He got high fives form Orange Cassidy and some others. Copeland even came over and mussed his hair. It was a blast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I’ve been checking out seats on Stubhub. Seats in a suite with parking and food included are around $90 including the bs fees. Not terrible but we’re approaching 1999 WCW levels of convincing someone to go with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Thurston went into Dynamite ratings a little more on Sunday. Total TV use during Dynamite's timeslot is down 8%, and Dynamite is down 9%. TV use in the demo at that time is down 14%, while Dynamite's demo is down 15%. So they're only slightly behind general cable-watching attrition. Ranking against competing programming is still high. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the former AEW fan Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) On 1/3/2024 at 10:50 AM, sabremike said: So was thinking of going to the Dynamite taping at Pru Center and I check TicketScammer. They seem to have set up the building for maybe 5k and the get in price is $60. Look at what has been advertised and tell me who in their right mind is going to pay SIXTY FUCKING DOLLARS to see that? You could have been there live for the GARCIA VS NANA DANCE-OFF?!?!?! Dang. I sincerely hope you can find a better way to spend the $60 you saved by skipping that. Or found some cheap tix somewhere. Edited January 4 by Gordi the former AEW fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 26 minutes ago, Gordi the former AEW fan said: You could have been there live for the GARCIA VS NANA DANCE-OFF?!?!?! Dang. I sincerely hope you can find a better way to spend the $60 you saved by skipping that. Or found some cheap tix somewhere. Paid $45 and yeah, show was awesome. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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