Cristobal Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 We'd like WWE more if Stephanie divorced HHH, married Cena, and put him in charge after his in-ring career over.sigged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 BTW are we 100% sure that Hero was fired because of the not-getting-in-shape-thing? No, we are not. Everyone's assuming that's the case, but you know how that goes. In the NXT thread, someone pointed out that Hero's problems tend to be woman-related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 So maybe he fucked the girlfriend of someone higher on the food chain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Maybe he goes around asking ladies if they want to make a Hero sandwich. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 So maybe he fucked the girlfriend of someone higher on the food chain? Hey, that's Punk's gimmick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I wonder what the Cena haters think of that video, since you have to figure the vast majority of them dig Cesaro. As a person, John Cena seems like a pretty good dude and you can tell he genuinely loves wrestling and cares about the betterment of the WWE, but I still hate his shtick and generally don't enjoy him as an in-ring performer. So that still puts him above Hogan, who I didn't enjoy watching and was only out for himself.You ever meet The Hulkster? Because I did and he was nice as fuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I wonder what the Cena haters think of that video, since you have to figure the vast majority of them dig Cesaro. As a person, John Cena seems like a pretty good dude and you can tell he genuinely loves wrestling and cares about the betterment of the WWE, but I still hate his shtick and generally don't enjoy him as an in-ring performer. So that still puts him above Hogan, who I didn't enjoy watching and was only out for himself.You ever meet The Hulkster? Because I did and he was nice as fuckI've never met Hogan, so he might be nice as fuck. I didn't question if he is a nice guy or not, just about him being self-serving, which everybody has to be to a degree in order to succeed in life. I just mentioned that while I don't like Cena's work, I like what he did for Claudio in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Hogan helped out plenty of his bros. Do you really think WCW would have hired Brutus without Hogan? Shit, when I met Hogan he was eating lunch w/ Brutus, after the parasailing accident but before the return. I bet Hogan brought the dude all the way to California with him and probably bought his lunch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Seems kinda lame to think Cena is El Diablo of the E when the last several months of all the shows have been Exhibits A - Z of what happens when HHH and the Mrs. are allowed to fantasy book themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Hogan helped out plenty of his bros. Do you really think WCW would have hired Brutus without Hogan? Shit, when I met Hogan he was eating lunch w/ Brutus, after the parasailing accident but before the return. I bet Hogan brought the dude all the way to California with him and probably bought his lunch too. Sure, and he got Jim Duggan a job in WCW, and Duggan went on to squash Steve Austin for the US title. So "help[ing] out ... his bros" is not necessarily a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Do we really want to be in a world where WCW used Austin properly, and thus the entire Attitude Era probably isn't born? I know I don't. So, thank you, Hulk Hogan, for bringing in Duggan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Intercourse that. WCW would've misused Austin and fired him regardless of Duggan being there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 i'll add a caveat to the Heenan checking out point: Heenan pretty much didn't care about anything except Goldberg for a period of time. Granted Heenan's reasoning for never wanting Goldberg to job was a bit.... well... his reasoning involved rich Jews, IIRC. He mentioned it a few times in his 2001 internet media tourI think Ventura's two commentary stints were 4/5 years in the WWF and 2 1/2 years in WCW. So he had the benefit of not working 7 year commentary stints in both promotions back to back like Heenan.And i've read of people preferring the Body Shop over Piper's PitTo be fair, I always interpereted Heenan's point about Goldberg as "There aren't a lot of Jewish superstar athletes and when you have one you should market the hell out of it and WCW didn't"At the time it didn't set off my antisemite alarm at all that he said that. I wouldn't say his point was anti-Semitic because most of the time that phrase means some sort of obvious malice, But he either directly or essentially said there were a lot of Jewish people in TV/marketing in reference to Goldberg running up a 3000-0 streak. One place where he said that was his shoot with a certain initialed individual (rhymes with Bob Minestein). The audio doesn't last long on YouTube since he's one of the few people in the shoot genre that seems to go at YouTube pirates. If anything, it might just be Bobby misreading how things would have been in 1998 as opposed to previous years. I think the reasonable limit on a Goldberg streak would have been reached in 1999 when they realize there's not exactly anyone new for him to beat if he goes over Nash. Unless you're heavily banking on Goldberg/Lex Luger, Goldberg/Sting, Goldberg/Ric Flair and Goldberg/Randy Savage. Now, one problem is that the WCW after the fingerpoke was a total clusterfuck for about 3 months solid. So instead of a new WCW President (Flair) actually being able to do something post-Fingerpoke (say a tournament to decide the champion at Superbawl), Flair is the new President and he can't do much of anything but he does bring in his son, who turns heel at Superbrawl, then Flair turns heel the next month for some reason, and a First Blood Match ends with a pinfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Seems kinda lame to think Cena is El Diablo of the E when the last several months of all the shows have been Exhibits A - Z of what happens when HHH and the Mrs. are allowed to fantasy book themselves.Agreed 100%. I don't think John Cena is the problem. What kills my interest is the involvment of HHH and Stephanie as on screen characters at the expense of active members of the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 https://twitter.com/WWEHOFerSunny/status/399051526359879680 Easily one of the most bizarre twitter exchanges ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 i'll add a caveat to the Heenan checking out point: Heenan pretty much didn't care about anything except Goldberg for a period of time. Granted Heenan's reasoning for never wanting Goldberg to job was a bit.... well... his reasoning involved rich Jews, IIRC. He mentioned it a few times in his 2001 internet media tourI think Ventura's two commentary stints were 4/5 years in the WWF and 2 1/2 years in WCW. So he had the benefit of not working 7 year commentary stints in both promotions back to back like Heenan.And i've read of people preferring the Body Shop over Piper's PitTo be fair, I always interpereted Heenan's point about Goldberg as "There aren't a lot of Jewish superstar athletes and when you have one you should market the hell out of it and WCW didn't"At the time it didn't set off my antisemite alarm at all that he said that. Now, one problem is that the WCW after the fingerpoke was a total clusterfuck for about 3 months solid. So instead of a new WCW President (Flair) actually being able to do something post-Fingerpoke (say a tournament to decide the champion at Superbawl), Flair is the new President and he can't do much of anything but he does bring in his son, who turns heel at Superbrawl, then Flair turns heel the next month for some reason, and a First Blood Match ends with a pinfall I got dizzy reading that. Thank God I was sitting down. Now I can gently lower my head to my desk and weep in comfort and silently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 That exchange between Kaitlyn and Tammy makes me feel funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 If you don't like Cena after watching that, just fuck off already. It was something that happened that we aren't supposed to see. What we do see... on a weekly basis... is one stale MFer. It's easy to dislike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Meltzer gave a decent rundown of all the corporate comings-and-goings. It's mentioned Triple H is specifically finding people outside of wrestling, who don't know anything about the business, because he wants to be the one to teach them about wrestling. Doesn't sound like people are too keen on this. Also, Vince was mega-pissed at all the false advertising on the European tour, and Triple H's department were the ones responsible, hence why so many of them went. The shocking one was Triple H's right hand man, and the guy who arranged all his travel and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 HHH brought in most of the recognizable faces as well so... I don't see why anyone would believe he doesn't want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomAct Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 https://twitter.com/WWEHOFerSunny/status/399051526359879680 Easily one of the most bizarre twitter exchanges ever. Who else but Sunny?! As an aside, she shouldn't be allowed to use pics from 20 years ago, it depresses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebbie Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Meltzer gave a decent rundown of all the corporate comings-and-goings. It's mentioned Triple H is specifically finding people outside of wrestling, who don't know anything about the business, because he wants to be the one to teach them about wrestling. Doesn't sound like people are too keen on this. Also, Vince was mega-pissed at all the false advertising on the European tour, and Triple H's department were the ones responsible, hence why so many of them went. The shocking one was Triple H's right hand man, and the guy who arranged all his travel and whatnot. A little revisionism never hurt anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 https://twitter.com/WWEHOFerSunny/status/399051526359879680 Easily one of the most bizarre twitter exchanges ever. Who else but Sunny?! As an aside, she shouldn't be allowed to use pics from 20 years ago, it depresses me. Sunny's life has become so sad, it makes Randy the Ram's fate in The Wrestler look like a freaking fairytale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Meltzer is a cretin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Yeah, at least he got to die in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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