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I guess if we’re comparing their bodies of work within CHIKARA, then... I guess, maybe. It’s still entirely subjective, but someone like Still Life was only around for... two seasons, maybe? And he’s probably my favorite out of the bunch. Some of these people never had time to find their footing since they’re more recent.

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5 minutes ago, Casey said:

I guess if we’re comparing their bodies of work within CHIKARA, then... I guess, maybe. It’s still entirely subjective, but someone like Still Life was only around for... two seasons, maybe? And he’s probably my favorite out of the bunch. Some of these people never had time to find their footing since they’re more recent.

I'm not disagreeing with you overall. What I am saying to counter that was guys like Wicked, Jigsaw, Kingston, Sweeney, and Ophidian specifically were pretty damn good wrestlers that stood out from basically the word go. But that's also a super tough comparison for most wrestlers to deal with. I'll look into more Still Life work, but I don't think it's really taking a shot at someone when I say I haven't seen anyone who I thought was as good as fast as, say, Eddie Kingston, who would be a shoo in for my top 50 greatest wrestlers ever list. It's more  a statement on how highly I thought of some of the CHIKARA graduates out the gate in the past.

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Can we get a rundown of all the accusations against Quackenbush/CHIKARA? I know about him being screwy with people's bookings, but what's this about trainers intentionally injuring people? I didn't see a source for that.

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46 minutes ago, Dog said:

Can we get a rundown of all the accusations against Quackenbush/CHIKARA? I know about him being screwy with people's bookings, but what's this about trainers intentionally injuring people? I didn't see a source for that.

Mike Quackenbush (second accuser) (third accuser) (fourth accuser) (fifth accuser) (sixth accuser) (seventh accuser)

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1 hour ago, saveholmes said:

Not to dismiss anything about the allegations on Quack, but the seventh accuser is a prick with an axe to grind who waited until after Chikara's closure to air out his dirty laundry and talk about stuff re: Solo Darling she personally debunked.

What’s more, every kid who quit, who would have any reason to want to drag Quack, all collectively told the dude to shut the fuck up.

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3 minutes ago, saveholmes said:

 

Pro wrestling has always been a sleazy business, though.  Nothing that's coming to light right now should surprise anyone.

He'd be more of an asset by staying in and being a good example instead of quitting...

…. unless he's setting the example by quitting...

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11 minutes ago, RIPPA said:

 

Considering how well their last investigation of incidents involving their talent is went, I'll not hold my breath.

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It should not surprise anyone that the Pro Wrestling Urban Legends aka the DVRVR Pro Wres Sleaze list is making the rounds again thanks to current events.  No one here should really be surprised by all of these terrible revelations.

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1 hour ago, Super Ape said:

Not to dismiss anything about the allegations on Quack, but the seventh accuser is a prick with an axe to grind who waited until after Chikara's closure to air out his dirty laundry and talk about stuff re: Solo Darling she personally debunked.

What’s more, every kid who quit, who would have any reason to want to drag Quack, all collectively told the dude to shut the fuck up.

Yep. He also deleted his main post, but yeah, that one has enough people who didn’t debate the other allegations coming in calling bullshit I’m putting zero faith in it.

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28 minutes ago, J.T. said:

It should not surprise anyone that the Pro Wrestling Urban Legends aka the DVRVR Pro Wres Sleaze list is making the rounds again thanks to current events.  No one here should really be surprised by all of these terrible revelations.

The sad fact is that half the shit on that thread happens to be true.

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With all that's going on the past 31 pages I can't help but wonder if I'm the only one who's lost track of all that have been accused.  Especially when there were some that turned out to be not true for whatever reason.  Not saying I'm asking for a list or anything as it's more just a general statement.

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1 minute ago, NikoBaltimore said:

With all that's going on the past 31 pages I can't help but wonder if I'm the only one who's lost track of all that have been accused.  Especially when there were some that turned out to be not true for whatever reason.  Not saying I'm asking for a list or anything as it's more just a general statement.

The short form would be that with the exception of Pete Dunne and WALTER WWE-UK seems to be infested with scum. Also, Mike Quackenbush is a nasty perv, but most of us already suspected that. Oh yeah, and Jim Cornette likes to have sex, not that you want to take such an image with you throughout the day.

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1 minute ago, OSJ said:

The short form would be that with the exception of Pete Dunne and WALTER WWE-UK seems to be infested with scum.

Hey, the women are fine so far. Gibson & Amir Jordan also seem to be decent.

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5 minutes ago, OSJ said:

The short form would be that with the exception of Pete Dunne and WALTER WWE-UK seems to be infested with scum. Also, Mike Quackenbush is a nasty perv, but most of us already suspected that. Oh yeah, and Jim Cornette likes to have sex, not that you want to take such an image with you throughout the day.

Scurll is also an alleged Pedo, but given how RoH has handled their last 2 investigations on personel wrongdoing, I expect Marty to have an ownership stake by next friday.

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On 6/23/2020 at 10:55 PM, TheVileOne said:

Generally, I can be very hot and cold about Dave Meltzer's reporting. Sometimes he clearly hits onto things that I think are impressive. I think sometimes, he and Alvarez get bullied when it's unwarranted. Everyone accuses them of being on AEW payroll. I mean from a wrestling standpoint, I can understand a preference to AEW over WWE, especially with some of WWE's more embarrassing booking choices. Other times, I find him frustrating and flabbergasting. No offense to fans of Meltzer, but his coverage on this topic so far has been terrible. He's clearly avoiding talking about and reporting on certain people. Also this nonsense:

I wish for this topic of all things due to his position and influence he'd take a little more time to prepare what he will say about it. 

Honestly, just based on a fraction of these allegations, I am somewhat in favor of the nuke it from orbit and rebuild it plan, which is sounding good right about now. 

I don't know if you heard today's WOR, but he and Alvarez basically discussed this topic wrestler by wrestler with the information he had at the time. Quackenbush was not mentioned but Cornette, Guevara, Ospreay, Scurlii, Ryan, and more were discussed. Doesn't seem like he is avoiding specific wrestlers. Maybe he didn't react quick enough? 

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1 hour ago, Eivion said:

Hey, the women are fine so far. Gibson & Amir Jordan also seem to be decent.

This is also true. Sorry, I should have expounded on my statement.

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