steve Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 You do get turned on almost as often as Sting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I'm just too trusting. Always trying to see the good in folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac_Fu Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Nakamura leaves the ring after his last match in NJPW https://streamable.com/h6wo You know I'm not even gonna mince words: There was something in that that was just beautiful. So much raw emotion on display there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 It's now weird to see Sting WITH hair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinit Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Nakamura leaves the ring after his last match in NJPW https://streamable.com/h6wo That was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 https://youtu.be/bfEYKgBlYZw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Idiot King Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Thinking still about great mid-carders and then seeing that picture of Owen -- does he qualify? Never quite made it over the top, always got a good (heel) reaction, made other guys look like a million bucks, seemed happy to put them over all the time but also had a way of legitimizing people and eventually made good with a dumb gimmick. If we're looking from his first I kicked your leg out from your leg heel turn until his death, that's only about six years, so maybe there's not enough there to work with. Or maybe he goes beyond that category, just generally? I don't know what the general consensus on him is these days -- I wouldn't lump him in with Disco or Tito (both of whom I think there's a lot to say for) -- but wasn't he essentially a mid-carder? Or is he more in the Mr. Perfect mold of good to great worker, Solid IC Champ, heel gatekeeper to the uppercard, and loses to the Top Face every now and then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Disregarding stro, Re: facing Shibata and Ishii the rest of the year -- have you seen the last match those two had together? Would YOU want to do THAT for a year?! Be lucky not to stay out of the goddamn hospital. Of course it wouldn't happen, but damn. That'd be like Reigns against two Junior Lesnars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Nak and AJ leave, Tanahashi is hurt, and y'all can't understand the joke of Okada crying about having to face Shibata and Ishii for the rest of the year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hey, I understood you were joking. But sometimes we wonder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Thinking still about great mid-carders and then seeing that picture of Owen -- does he qualify? Never quite made it over the top, always got a good (heel) reaction, made other guys look like a million bucks, seemed happy to put them over all the time but also had a way of legitimizing people and eventually made good with a dumb gimmick. If we're looking from his first I kicked your leg out from your leg heel turn until his death, that's only about six years, so maybe there's not enough there to work with. Or maybe he goes beyond that category, just generally? I don't know what the general consensus on him is these days -- I wouldn't lump him in with Disco or Tito (both of whom I think there's a lot to say for) -- but wasn't he essentially a mid-carder? Or is he more in the Mr. Perfect mold of good to great worker, Solid IC Champ, heel gatekeeper to the uppercard, and loses to the Top Face every now and then?Owen was another guy, like Tito and like Valentine, that you could plug in anywhere and he would make it work. So it's completely valid to put him there. I think he gets this weird elevation over what he actually was for obvious reasons. That said, his run with Bret was fantastic and there's no taking that away.If you'll notice, it's fair to say my definition of midcarder is like a utility player in baseball. Just credible enough to put them anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Owen gets the 'weird elevation' because he was a lot of people's favourite wrestler for a good period of his WWE heel run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Did everyone forget that time when TNA tried to push Glenn Gilberti as a serious world title contender? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORELOCK Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Why would I remember something I wasn't enough of a masochist to watch? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattdangerously Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 "Weird elevation" my ass. Owen was legitimately a great worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Did that really happen? No, seriously, did that really happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stro Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 TNA is non-canon, so no, it did not happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 "Weird elevation" my ass. Owen was legitimately a great worker. What I meant by that is that Owen WAS a great worker, but to say he was perpetually at main event level would be revisionist history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 TNA is non-canon, so no, it did not happen. If that's the case, I'm doubling down on Christian and Matt Hardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I'd be up for Taker vs Floyd Mayweather at Mania. Just re-do Show/Mayweather, 'cept for when Floyd's heavies hit the ring to do a run in, Ronda Rousey makes the save and knocks out Mayweather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Apparently Damien Sandow is doing his Sizzle gimmick from UpUpDownDown on house shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spritenaut 32 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Apparently Damien Sandow is doing his Sizzle gimmick from UpUpDownDown on house shows For those of us who aren't familiar with UpUpDownDown, what is his "SIzzle" gimmick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Austin Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Apparently Damien Sandow is doing his Sizzle gimmick from UpUpDownDown on house shows For those of us who aren't familiar with UpUpDownDown, what is his "SIzzle" gimmick? He's a freestyle rapper. It doesn't sound as bad as it does, he's quite funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGoldman Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tajiri for the best midcarder discussion. Is it that people feel his ECW stuff occasionally getting a main event disqualifies him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Austin Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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