TheVileOne Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Totally forgot that, if I ever noticed it. IM 2 doesn't linger in my mind well, other than Rockwell being awesome. You never noticed it because there was nothing specifically to indicate or know he was with the 10 Rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I saw AOU ... I was happy with it.The creepiest scene is easily the one where Ultron is listening to the Maximoff's tragic tale. Staring coldly with those emotionless beady reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Oh, and ... "Gotosleep!*punch* Gotosleep!*punch* Gotosleep!*punch*" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Saw AoU with my kid. Was satisfied with it. Slightly annoyed by Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's powers origins being messed about. Shuts the door on any cross-pollination with the X-Men, but the license situation merits it. Marked like a schoolgirl when: Klaw got his arm torn off and when Ultron gave the Vision his name. Enjoyed how the middle act pretty much sets up Civil War (Hulk vs. Iron Man Hulkbuster was great disaster porn!) and the end sets up Thor: Ragnarok and the coming Infinity War. If nothing, MS is very concerned about continuity of story through all of the MCU films.. The Thomas the Tank Engine scene at the end of the Ant Man trailer sold the movie to my kid. She is stoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yeah the train scene during the trailers pretty much made it a lock me and my buddies will see the movie on opening night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 As much as the movie is "not what I want it to be" for silly personal reasons (which I've known since it was going to be made at Lionsgate), I'll be damned if every ad I see doesn't get me more excited for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I finally got around to Age of Ultron... sadly, I'm on the side that greeted it with an eye-rolling "meh". Almost entirely a retread of stuff we've seen before (right down to the big climax involving Tony & Company fighting an army of identical enemies in the sky, enemies which were created again by Tony's reckless God's-domain-tampering) and mostly seen done better. There were plenty of fun moments and James Spader makes the funniest genocidal terminator ever, but so much of it just felt like filler or even just plain bad. Hulk/Widow shipping, are you fuckin' kidding me? That's the worst canon-destroying relationship since Spock/Uhura in the new Trek flicks. Hawkeye suddenly has had a wife and kids for years and somehow not even Natasha knows about it? Tony just decides "hey, building Skynet sounds like a great idea!" and Banner actually agrees with him? And while I appreciate the concerted effort on showing them shielding and rescuing civilians from battle, the movie just KEPT interrupting the fight scenes with endless speed-bumps of "get these people out of here, hurry, go go go!". I literally would have rather watched an extra hour of bickering over who can possibly lift Mjolnir than half the extraneous stuff that was shoehorned into this film. All the Hulkbuster brawling in the world can't make up for all the unnecessary talk about the infinity gemstones or those awful scenes with "the twins" (let's face it, Days of Future Past did more with Quicksilver in ten minutes than Age of Ultron did in two hours), and Vision is so utterly tacked-on that they easily could have simply not included him at all and it wouldn't have changed the plot one little bit. It's easily the worst movie that Joss Whedon has thus-far directed. Although by all reports he was forced to do a job he never meant or wanted to do, being forced to make everything Bigger~! than in the first Avengers and shoving in a buncha extra shit that he wasn't happy about. But regardless of how the movie got made, it's just not terribly good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 "Hawkeye suddenly has had a wife and kids for years and somehow not even Natasha knows about it?" Natasha totally knew about it. The kids called her Aunt Natasha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Oh. Whoops. Still, it felt out of character for the guy, and was obviously something that was suddenly invented for this particular movie. I'm usually not much of a fan of those retcons that go "Oh by the way, this character has an incredibly important aspect of their life which has Just So Happened to have not been revealed to the audience before now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Well, he didn't exactly have much of a character in any of his previous appearances, so pretty much everything about him that wasn't "the Avenger with a bow" had to be invented for this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Not that it helped much, considering how arbitrary all the character "development" is in the sequel. Everyone's motivations turn on a dime; by the second half of the film, I honestly have no idea what the hell Ultron's plan was supposed to accomplish, beyond "killer robots must kill!" Cylon/Terminator/Frankenstein boilerplate. Still not sure why the twins went along with him in the mid-game bits (after they seemed entirely loyal to Hydra in the first scene), nor why they changed their minds to betray Ultron later, nor... god, NONE of this made sense, the more I think about it. The film's overall tone is so jerky, lurching from scene to scene and so obviously missing a ton of deleted footage, and the several million fight scenes where CGI versions of our heroes are fighting a million identical Ultrons who are apparently made of pure aluminum foil, since even our non-superpowered heroes can tear the damn things apart with their bare hands... holy fuck, this was really nowhere near as good as the first Avengers. I'm honestly surprised that it's received such a relatively positive reaction, I would've expected most fans to turn on this in a big bad way. There's so many other little moments which are nearly insults to our intelligence, like when Thor randomly decides to animate Johnny Five The Vision with his godly thunder... and it actually works. And the blatant 9/11 imagery when Stark drops the Hulk through that one skyscraper, which was so totally gratuitous and unearned. And at the end, the Hulk... GETS IN A PLANE AND FLIES IT AWAY. Seriously, the Incredible goddamned Hulk sits down in the pilot's seat of the fucking Quinjet and, I guess, takes the stick and navigates off into the sunset? What. It doesn't even make sense for BANNER to know how to fly this damn plane, let alone his giant green Very Special doppelganger. And we get some incredibly terse dialogue like "oh, they think he crashed our billion-dollar jet into the ocean somewhere... he's probably fine, we don't want to bother looking for either our insanely-expensive lost vehicle nor the WMD-on-legs which inexplicably flew it away." Fuckin' hell, this was dumb, just SO far below Whedon's usual standards for tightly-wound character drama. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Jingus' issues are not without some merit. For me, they are not as problematic, but I understand why audiences might have some problems with it. I just think with Avengers, they really were able to massage all the issue and produced the best cut possible for everyone. Here, there was just way too many spinning plates. Plus, it seems Whedon almost died from exhaustion making it, which didn't really help this film. He was clearly on the edge of a knife for the first film, but everything just managed to come together. Here things got a little out of control. I get the sense he did not want to get rid of the original Maria Hill subplot for Avengers and that could've been more of Marvel's influence. Could be completely off there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogwelder Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Oh. Whoops. Still, it felt out of character for the guy, and was obviously something that was suddenly invented for this particular movie. Actually, I wouldn't be shocked if they got the idea from the Ultimate version of Hawkeye (even if they did all get massacred in 2 issues or so after they were introduced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonteCarl Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Ultron's plan was to create a catastrophic event on Earth big enough to wipe out the human race since his main objective when created was "World Peace". When he came online, he found that all the world's problems have been created by man, and thus the only way to establish world peace was to destroy humans and start the world over from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Everyone was worried about how Days of Future Past would fit all of those characters into a two hour movie and for the most part Singer did a nice job with it. Some characters didn't receive a lot of screen time but you knew everyone's motivations I didn't see as many people concerned with how Marvel was going to fit a billion characters into this (or Civil War) but they receive a pass because.... Marvel... I guess. It's like the Transformers series. Everyone has given up on shitting on Michael Bay because no matter what the films are going to make a billion dollars and he doesn't care how poorly made they are. These are popcorn action movies for ages 12 and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Just got back from watching Age of Ultron. Not sure if I liked it as much as the first Avengers, but it was a very fun time. Thought the story of the new characters was really well-done, and James Spader was the absolute best Non-spoiler notes, the only time I ever find Scarlet attractive at all is as Black Widow. Not sure why, but doing anything else she doesn't do anything for me. And Tony Stark wore what I can only describe as the greatest shirt I've ever seen. It's an absolute must-buy. http://bna78.com/shop/t-shirts-men/bruce-lee-gung-fu-scratch-v-neck/ The love story of Widow and Banner was very interesting. They talk about going away, only for Hulk to leave because he can't trust himself around civilians. It's something where you understand his actions, but wish he'd reconsider and go back to Widow. And Quicksilver's death was so sad. Him and Scarlet more than proved their worth, with the ultimate sacrifice at the end. Great stuff. That graphic always bothers me too much for one reason so I can't buy it. The mixer is upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Still not sure why the twins went along with him in the mid-game bits (after they seemed entirely loyal to Hydra in the first scene), nor why they changed their minds to betray Ultron later, nor... god, NONE of this made sense, the more I think about it. They went along with him because they thought he was planning to kill the Avengers and they hate the Avengers. They turned on him when they found out he was planning to wipe out humanity. That seemed fairly simple and well-explained. Now, exactly what THANOS has been trying to do over the last few films is pretty confusing, but hopefully they'll have a satisfying explanation when he actually shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 "Fine, I'll do it myself" but who was working for him in Age of Ultron? It was just a thrown together scene that seemed more appropriate for GOTG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Everyone has given up on shitting on Michael BayTo quote King Lear's penultimate lines, act five scene three: "Never, never, never, never, never!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarrie Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 "Fine, I'll do it myself" but who was working for him in Age of Ultron? It was just a thrown together scene that seemed more appropriate for GOTG. They mentioned a couple of times how Tony and Bruce were getting nowhere with their Ultron project, then something unexplained happened and it started working. Seems safe to assume Thanos was behind that something unexplained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Everyone was worried about how Days of Future Past would fit all of those characters into a two hour movie and for the most part Singer did a nice job with it. Some characters didn't receive a lot of screen time but you knew everyone's motivations I didn't see as many people concerned with how Marvel was going to fit a billion characters into this (or Civil War) but they receive a pass because.... Marvel... I guess. It's like the Transformers series. Everyone has given up on shitting on Michael Bay because no matter what the films are going to make a billion dollars and he doesn't care how poorly made they are. These are popcorn action movies for ages 12 and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipGofern Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Still not sure why the twins went along with him in the mid-game bits (after they seemed entirely loyal to Hydra in the first scene), nor why they changed their minds to betray Ultron later, nor... god, As has been (sorta) mentioned, the Twins went with Ultron because Stark killed their parents. As they explained in Witch's monologue about hiding under the bed while an unexploded bomb stared them in the face. They changed their minds when Ultron's plan went from "Kill Stark" to "We're going to use a city in your home country as a de-facto nuke." There's so many other little moments which are nearly insults to our intelligence, like when Thor randomly decides to animate Johnny Five The Vision with his godly thunder... and it actually works. He didn't "randomly" decide - he saw that Vision was needed to stop Ultron in a vision he had while taking a swim in that Mystic Wading Pool. we get some incredibly terse dialogue like "oh, they think he crashed our billion-dollar jet into the ocean somewhere... he's probably fine, we don't want to bother looking for either our insanely-expensive lost vehicle nor the WMD-on-legs which inexplicably flew it away." Well, in the first movie they found Hulk living a quiet anonymous life tending to the sick in Bangladesh or something so it's already been established Shield doesn't care to keep him under their thumbs 24-7. I guess you can say they should at least keep tabs on him but for all we know they do know where he is and just didn't wanna tell Natasha. I mean, AoU is far from a perfect movie but honestly, I don't see any huge fundamental differences between it and the first Avengers. They both feature snarky villains with dubious plans with an army of disposable CGI fodder for our heroes to beat up, the Whedon-esque tendency to quip your way out of any scene, and a story that moves in fast forward. They're not terribly dissimilar so I always assumed anybody who enjoyed the first one was good with the second. Which isn't to say AoU didn't have some glaring flaws which, imo, notch it below the first. As you said, the herky-jerky nature of the story and the tragic horrible waste of the Vision definitely hurt it. And the fact a Joss Whedon movie of all things would fail the Bechdel Test is absolutely mind-blowing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Everyone was worried about how Days of Future Past would fit all of those characters into a two hour movie and for the most part Singer did a nice job with it. Some characters didn't receive a lot of screen time but you knew everyone's motivations I didn't see as many people concerned with how Marvel was going to fit a billion characters into this (or Civil War) but they receive a pass because.... Marvel... I guess. It's like the Transformers series. Everyone has given up on shitting on Michael Bay because no matter what the films are going to make a billion dollars and he doesn't care how poorly made they are. These are popcorn action movies for ages 12 and below. Yes, I've seen the Jordan gif a million times on the internet. There's a funnier one where he's playing pool. What does any of it have to do with Age of Ultron being exactly the same as the first Avengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 "Fine, I'll do it myself" but who was working for him in Age of Ultron? It was just a thrown together scene that seemed more appropriate for GOTG.They mentioned a couple of times how Tony and Bruce were getting nowhere with their Ultron project, then something unexplained happened and it started working. Seems safe to assume Thanos was behind that something unexplained. It wasn't unexplained. They found the Mind Stone, which is a quantum supercomputer, which gave them the processing power needed to make Ultron work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts