bobholly138 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'd just like to say here that Pro Wrestling Ego is the greatest name for an indy ever. Been hearing they have good shows. But it is rare when they draw more than 30 people. The Great Southern 8 has been going on for 2 years now. He brings in 1 wrestler from 8 different southern states. I demand to know if Tennessee was represented, and if so, who did the honors? It was. I will look it up and see who the wrestler from TN. Ok can't find who was the TN wrestler. But here is everyone that was in it. Jeremiah Plunkett, Barry Wolf,-Mississippi Carl Jamar Wilson, Jordan Kage Jared Wayne. Benjamin "Money" Cash, Fred Sinister Joe Kane.-Louisiana Sugar Dunkerton-Georgia Sugar won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It was. I will look it up and see who the wrestler from TN. Ok can't find who was the TN wrestler. But here is everyone that was in it. Jeremiah Plunkett, Barry Wolf,-Mississippi Carl Jamar Wilson, Jordan Kage Jared Wayne. Benjamin "Money" Cash, Fred Sinister Joe Kane.-Louisiana Sugar Dunkerton-Georgia Sugar won. When I saw Chikara live in Porterdale, GA, Sugar had a lot of family representation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobholly138 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 It was. I will look it up and see who the wrestler from TN. Ok can't find who was the TN wrestler. But here is everyone that was in it. Jeremiah Plunkett, Barry Wolf,-Mississippi Carl Jamar Wilson, Jordan Kage Jared Wayne. Benjamin "Money" Cash, Fred Sinister Joe Kane.-Louisiana Sugar Dunkerton-Georgia Sugar won. When I saw Chikara live in Porterdale, GA, Sugar had a lot of family representation. I have only seen him,Joe Kane and Barry Wolf. Kane is really good. He helped train lots of the MS and LA talent. Wolf has been around a long time now. He used to be in a great tag team "Whiskey Hangover". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Fred Sinister sounds like an old-time tv horror movie host. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nature Boy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 WWE's Facebook page just shared a new video of Sting talking about Warrior. When will they officially announce Sting's signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 On the Buff Bagwell Art of Wrestling he said he was making $750k when WCWs doors closed. Bagwell is from the previous generation of wrestlers most definitely. He worked Global. As somebody else said, many of the WWE low/mid card guys would be on much better deals if WCW existed and there would be a shit ton of guys in WCW making decent money - not least because that would entail another set of main-eventers and it's not completely impossible that Titus could have been one of those. A guy like Christopher Daniels would have probably spent some time in WCW and did better than he's done in TNA. While it's true that many do better financially than 2 generations ago (even with inflation), wrestlers didn't have anything like the travel schedules they have today. They just moved territory from time to time, and they had the luxury of burning the odd bridge to boot. The switch from business class to coach as ticketing for midcarders also happened about 10 years ago, some of the headliners fly business but not that long ago it was standard - that's a big change. And lest we forget, it looks like PPV payoffs essentially just went bye-bye. Overall I'd say there are winners and losers. Guys who sell merch are definitely assisted by the global machine. Others...not so much I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The DDP burial has always stood out as weird From everything I've heard, DDP's insane match planning rubbed people the wrong way. Coming from a company that does walk throughs for entrances. Wrong guy for that angle period. Glad people forgot about it band he transitioned to positively a page quick. Apparently, DDP also infamously gave Vince an overfamiliar big hug when he arrived in WWE. Which was then ribbed on by the Austin hugging Vince, and then others hugging Vince, and then Austin turning on Vince because their hugs were no longer special. I might ask Austin about that actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 WWE is a publicly traded company, surely you can just look up salaries, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 WWE is a publicly traded company, surely you can just look up salaries, etc. Wrestlers are not salaried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Contracts then, Pedantic Perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchMediatedHypertrophy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Contracts then, Pedantic Perry Well I'd be surprised if contracts regarding relationships between businesses would be publicly declared; there is a difference between that and listing your salary bands and board member remuneration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eikerir Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'm currently watching Royal Rumble 97 on the Network and holy shit that's a big crowd for a not Wrestlemania show, specially pre 2001 when the whole "Huge Arena Wrestlemania" trend really stuck. I think it was around 60.000 in attendance for the Rumble. What are other non WM PPVs with extraordinarily large crowds/arenas besides this and Summerslam 92? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo-Yo's Roomie Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think Rumble 97 was heavily papered. I want to say the paid attendance was more like 48k, which is still a good gate, mind you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJ Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The salaries for corp officers are publicly declared. In 2013, HHH made 1.866 million in his capacity as an on air talent. Stephen was at 325k. Those crazy kids are going to be allll right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'm currently watching Royal Rumble 97 on the Network and holy shit that's a big crowd for a not Wrestlemania show, specially pre 2001 when the whole "Huge Arena Wrestlemania" trend really stuck. I think it was around 60.000 in attendance for the Rumble. What are other non WM PPVs with extraordinarily large crowds/arenas besides this and Summerslam 92? Cornette said that show was heavily papered. They sold 47,514 tickets (still impressive) and comped 12,511. Around the 35 second mark he gives out the figures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Coaster Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Attended the Smackdown taping last night. Sat next to two of the type of wrestling fans I try so hard to avoid. They spent the entire time talking about how much better wrestling used to be, how every wrestler's father was better than the current-day wrestler, and generally showing off their "smarts". I wanted to ask them why they spent more than $100 a piece on ringside tickets for a show they weren't going to enjoy...or to at least switch seats with me so that I could be in the seat right at the ramp. Worst part was shortly after a young kid sitting behind us was yelled at for standing. The wrestler he was rooting for (I forget the match) kicked his opponent in the head and the kid yelled and cheered. Dipwad #1 turns around and says, "He missed him." I regret not telling him off right there. Let the kid enjoy the show. He at least starting leaving me alone when he eventually realized that my response to everything he said was going to be "I disagree". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwoy2j Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Attended the Smackdown taping last night. Sat next to two of the type of wrestling fans I try so hard to avoid. They spent the entire time talking about how much better wrestling used to be, how every wrestler's father was better than the current-day wrestler, and generally showing off their "smarts". I wanted to ask them why they spent more than $100 a piece on ringside tickets for a show they weren't going to enjoy...or to at least switch seats with me so that I could be in the seat right at the ramp. Worst part was shortly after a young kid sitting behind us was yelled at for standing. The wrestler he was rooting for (I forget the match) kicked his opponent in the head and the kid yelled and cheered. Dipwad #1 turns around and says, "He missed him." I regret not telling him off right there. Let the kid enjoy the show. He at least starting leaving me alone when he eventually realized that my response to everything he said was going to be "I disagree". Ugh, people who ruin it for little kids are the effing worst. I can stomach smarkiness and douchebaggery but I hate it when people point out shit like that to kids. My fiancee's daughter will always ask me stuff like, "how did Undertaker get in the casket when he wasn't there during the match" and I always kayfab (tm Joseph Park) her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 In all fairness, Cowboy Bob Orton WAS better than Randy Orton... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 On the current roster, which second / third generation stars are better than their fathers? Too early to me to see Bray Wyatt. Axel? No Cody, No. Dustin? No. Usos? No and too early Tamina? No Nattie? Maybe but no Edit: not suprisingly matt says dustin > dusty. Work wise maybe, but not the whole package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 If you are talking purely in-ring work - Dustin is better than Dusty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Sure. I was thinking the whole package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offspring515 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 My tolerance for smarky "I hate everything but I still watch religiously" garbage is pretty much non existant. An acquaintance (friend of a friend) was excluded from our Mania party this year for just such a reason. It's like dude, if everyone else is into the match and cheering and you're sitting there going "omg...so phoney....they botched that....why isn't he selling more....this is garbage" you're being a turd. Not that you should fake being into a match if you're not, but to try and ruin everyone else's enjoyment is terrible. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Coaster Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Fair points on the second generation guys, but I don't need somebody I don't know telling me that every single time one of them comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsey Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 If you are talking purely in-ring work - Dustin is better than Dusty Agreed. Also, when I mentioned Cowboy Bob, I was initially referring to his in-ring work being better than Randy's and I stand by that statement. Now I'd be interersted in doing a little back to back comparison between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The problem with Cowboy Bob is that we don't have a ton of footage of him pre-WWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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