zendragon Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 I wonder if they would have done a one off on a B PPV for Hogan-Flair considering it didn't draw well. Do they just do it to do it and move on or just cancel the program
paintedbynumbers Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 You would have to have Hogan-Flair on PPV at some point. All the magazines were running the "what if" articles for years. Vince had to know he would be attracting a big portion of the WCW fan base wanting to see Flair. If you are doing monthly PPV's you would have to do that match. Hell Push Flair-Savage and Sid-Hogan back a month and do Flair-Hogan at mania like they should have done. Run Jake-Savage at mania with a stipulation, and do Sid-Taker and have Taker keep moving towards a face turn. It could have worked. House shows or not, no internet in the early 90's. Most fans wouldn't know the results of Hogan/Flair house show matches nor would they be able to actually watch them. The PPV main would have sold to both WWF and WCW fans and would have probably been WWF's best selling PPV for that time period. 2
Shartnado Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, paintedbynumbers said: You would have to have Hogan-Flair on PPV at some point. All the magazines were running the "what if" articles for years. Vince had to know he would be attracting a big portion of the WCW fan base wanting to see Flair. If you are doing monthly PPV's you would have to do that match. Hell Push Flair-Savage and Sid-Hogan back a month and do Flair-Hogan at mania like they should have done. Run Jake-Savage at mania with a stipulation, and do Sid-Taker and have Taker keep moving towards a face turn. It could have worked. House shows or not, no internet in the early 90's. Most fans wouldn't know the results of Hogan/Flair house show matches nor would they be able to actually watch them. The PPV main would have sold to both WWF and WCW fans and would have probably been WWF's best selling PPV for that time period. All of this, plus the hypothetical paradigm shift of monthly PPV's already having been a thing since the '80's. That could have already changed the importance of house shows as a revenue generating vehicle at that point. Probably not to a money-losing venture they are now, but their importance could very well have already lessened by then.
paintedbynumbers Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 16 hours ago, Shartnado said: All of this, plus the hypothetical paradigm shift of monthly PPV's already having been a thing since the '80's. That could have already changed the importance of house shows as a revenue generating vehicle at that point. Probably not to a money-losing venture they are now, but their importance could very well have already lessened by then. I don't think house shows are hurt as much as you guys think. Sure they will be in bigger markets but in cities like Erie, Pa, or Youngstown Ohio that doesn't get TV the fans will still come out as it would be the only time they could see the show live. Just run smaller towns for house shows that will sell out on a continual basis and leave the big cities for tv and ppv.
AxB Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 What if Marty Scurll leaves ROH in January, signs for AEW and is revealed as The Exalted One of the Dark Order later that month?
Ramo2653 Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 They're still dorks. And I don't think they ever gain a "dangerous" aura. 1
AxB Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Realistically, Marty gets suspended during the Speaking Out movement and most likely the Dark Order angle gets dropped at that time. 2
Dewar Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 What if Vince and Hunter approved Jericho's request to have NXT work the original Jericho Cruise?
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/16/2020 at 5:52 AM, zendragon said: I wonder if they would have done a one off on a B PPV for Hogan-Flair considering it didn't draw well. Do they just do it to do it and move on or just cancel the program I think they do the Sid/Hogan vs Taker/Flair match that they did on SNME. I would have liked to see either a Sid/Hogan vs Flair/Savage dynamic (similar to the Taker/Batista vs Shawn/Cena dynamic), or even the Mega Powers reuniting to take on Sid and Flair. Hogan and Savage's dynamic post 1991 was weird. 2
Shartnado Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, RolandTHTG said: Hogan and Savage's dynamic post 1991 was weird. Yeah, Savage and Piper DID come to Hogan's aid when The Undertaker was attacking him prior to Survivor Series'91, but there was always a certain uneasiness between them (both real and kayfabe, I guess). If you don't consider the real life mess between them, the story-line uneasiness is actually kinda nice touch, as they could never truly trust each other again, even when fighting common enemies (in WCW, mostly).
Loki Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 13 hours ago, AxB said: Realistically, Marty gets suspended during the Speaking Out movement and most likely the Dark Order angle gets dropped at that time. I read this thread backwards and was wondering if the original question was what if Marty Janetty was the Exalted One. 7
Shartnado Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Loki said: I read this thread backwards and was wondering if the original question was what if Marty Janetty was the Exalted One. Oh my... That would probably have been the first time he made the Dark Order dissappear! (BTW, he's apparently been saying all that talk was for a wrestling angle, so again he's going with "it wasn't me"/"just kidding "-defense ).
The Great ML Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 ...and you thought Jake Roberts promos in 2020 were hard to sit through...wait until you get one of Marty’s slurred word salad.
AxB Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 What if Vince responds to the launch of World of Sport 2018 with a complete Meh and the WWE UK tournament/ NXT-UK never happens?
Loki Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 16 hours ago, AxB said: What if Vince responds to the launch of World of Sport 2018 with a complete Meh and the WWE UK tournament/ NXT-UK never happens? WWE wouldn't have gotten Dunne, Bates, Imperium, Etc..
AxB Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 So therefore Progress Wembley shows become an annual thing?
AxB Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 What if... when the Bladerunners split up, Hellwig went to Watts' UWF as Eddie Gilbert's muscle, and was then absorbed into the WCW roster and booked against Flair at Clash o'Champions 1. Meanwhile Borden went to Texas WCCW, and then moved on to the WWF and beat Honky Tonk Man to become IC Champion?
Curt McGirt Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 Who came up with the Sting character, anyway? Dusty? Borden himself?
BurningBeard Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 I was just running this feud on 2K19 and think it would’ve been amazing in WCW circa 92-93 if the accident hadn’t happened: Ravishing Rick Rude v Magnum TA. It all starts with a Madusa face turn after her feud with Heyman and TA coming to the rescue 3
Happ Hazzard Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 2:59 AM, AxB said: What if... when the Bladerunners split up, Hellwig went to Watts' UWF as Eddie Gilbert's muscle, and was then absorbed into the WCW roster and booked against Flair at Clash o'Champions 1. Meanwhile Borden went to Texas WCCW, and then moved on to the WWF and beat Honky Tonk Man to become IC Champion? It's hard to say, Watts didn't like Hellwig, but he liked Sting. Sting would have stayed all muscled up instead of slimming down and wouldn't have become the worker he ended up being. And I don't think he'd have become the Ultimate Warrior as that was largely based on Hellwig's Dingo Warrior character from WCCW. Maybe Fritz would have made Borden the Dingo Warrior instead of Hellwig. There's a lot of ifs or buts contained within the question. I do think Sting would have had more long term success and a lot more longevity in the WWF than Warrior did. But he would have developed into a totally different character and wrestler than he was in WCW in real life. 2
Rocco Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 I have to say I kinda wish there was a Flair-Warrior match from 88. I don't know why but I want to see it.
Happ Hazzard Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 It probably would have been similar to Flair vs Nikita or Flair vs Hawk. Warrior would have developed a bit more as a worker in the NWA. But so much of Warriors act was specific to what the WWF was at that time, with the music, running to the ring and shaking the ropes etc, it's hard to imagine him in the NWA, particularly in the studio tapings they were still doing in 1988.
Shartnado Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 2:49 PM, Rocco said: I have to say I kinda wish there was a Flair-Warrior match from 88. I don't know why but I want to see it. It's probably similar reason why I flipped out when I found out that there actually WAS a Tully-Warrior match from '89. Kinda like "let's see what he can get out of this one?" -type of deal. 1
Curt McGirt Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 I can't remember who said it, but somebody said Sting has a shitty attitude back when he was on top. 1
kafkonia Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 42 minutes ago, L_W_P said: Who stands against the nWo if Sting is gone? Page and Savage? Who gets the Starrcade 97 rub? Goldberg? Hogan probably isn't the 3rd man here (it'd be HBK) so where does that leave him? Does his voice drown out the full power of The Kliq on those contracts? I think you answered your own question there - if Sting's not involved, and Hogan's not the third man, he's the one getting all the rubs fighting the nWo. 3
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