Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well that clears that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MushroomJones Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 What are Russo's biggest lies/dumbest things he's said publically? This ranks up there as number one, right? He was tweeting last night about WWE making the refs look stupid and how he hates that. Also, in one of his many shoots, he says he never gave anyone a finish to a match. That can't be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 WWE effectively had to pay nothing in the settlement because what wasn't covered by insurance was paid for by their own lawsuit against the snap shackle company (they marketed it for stunt use even though it wasn't safe/approved).Wasn't there a long-time rumor that the snap shackle wasn't even one meant for this sort of thing, that it was supposed to be used as a harness on sailboats or something like that? What are Russo's biggest lies/dumbest things he's said publically?Oh come on, let's be real. DVDVR's database isn't THAT big. The bandwidth costs alone for a truly comprehensive List Of Russo's Big Lies would drive poor Rippa into bankruptcy! My favorites are some of his amazing justifications for his provably-disastrous time in WCW, especially whenever he starts talking about ratings. Listening to Russo talk about ratings is like listening to Bernie Madoff talk about profit margins: no matter what he says, you just know his numbers are wrong. He was tweeting last night about WWE making the refs look stupid and how he hates that.That's richer than the Koch brothers, coming from a guy who probably can't even sleep through the night without muttering "zzz... zzz... bump the ref... zzz..." Also, in one of his many shoots, he says he never gave anyone a finish to a match. That can't be right?I'd love to make a snarky joke like "having seen the finishes on HIS shows, I believe it!". But no, that can't possibly be true. Even if the wrestlers or the agents or Vince himself did most of the work regarding the finishes, there's no fucking way that Russo NEVER gave anyone a finish in his combined decade-long career as a head booker in multiple companies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Back on topic about much smarter people: I really love Austin as an interviewer and host. It shouldn't be a surprise that perhaps the greatest money-drawing-promo man in the history of the business is an incredibly entertaining off-the-cuff talker; but those two skills REALLY are different animals, and lots of people can't do both. What I love about his interviews is how damn thorough he is. He'll ask a guest what they think about a topic, they'll give an answer, and they're barely done talking when he's already asking them WHY~! they hold that opinion. He's like the anti-Feinstein, he keeps chasing his subtopics into deeper and more specific rabbit holes until he gets to the bottom of every damn thing in the world. He's awesome, period. I mean, guys like Jericho/Cabana/Ross/Cornette/other usual suspects are great of course, but they rarely seem to cover most subjects in such exhaustive depth as Austin does. Hell, he devoted like five minutes of the first Daniels podcast to simply trying to perfectly describe what it felt like to step bare-footed in a pile of dogshit! And that sounds like the grossest thing in the world (although it would just be par for the course for practically any of the extended-family Smodcast shows), but Steve somehow made it bizarrely compelling, as if you were listening to Superman bitchily complain about how difficult it was to trim his toenails and describing the whole process to you. (Him getting a visiting Jim Ross to do reenacted play-by-play of the moment was just the bonus on top.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Of all the big wrestling pods, Austin seems to do the most homework, prob followed by Jericho. He always seems prepared about a person's career and watches matches as hoomework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ray Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Someone needs to do up a fake poster for a card with Austin and the Monster Meng (preferably with ABA afro) vs. some roided up rats, maybe the sewer rat from the Penguins of Madagascar. Undercard match should have Mr. Fly in a match. Maybe a Sasquatch Pussy Snorkel on a pole match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Also Austin stunning a crocodile in the Nile River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Austin needs to continue the "one time I was out floundering gag." Who would have guessed that Steve would have been this great at dry humor, but I have laughed during his podcast over the last year more than I have laughed at anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 What are Russo's biggest lies/dumbest things he's said publically? This ranks up there as number one, right? He was tweeting last night about WWE making the refs look stupid and how he hates that. Also, in one of his many shoots, he says he never gave anyone a finish to a match. That can't be right? Russo has said that the finishes are totally up to the agents and the only input he has is telling them in advance where the story is going so that they can come up with a finish that moves the story. Russo has also said that the day Ed Ferrara was hired (King of the Ring 1998), Vince and Vince couldn't think of a good finish for Austin/Kane and Ferrara was the one who suggested Undertaker inadvertently hit Austin with the chair causing him to bleed. So, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 WWE effectively had to pay nothing in the settlement because what wasn't covered by insurance was paid for by their own lawsuit against the snap shackle company (they marketed it for stunt use even though it wasn't safe/approved).Wasn't there a long-time rumor that the snap shackle wasn't even one meant for this sort of thing, that it was supposed to be used as a harness on sailboats or something like that? That's exactly what it was, but since the manufacturer was aware of its use in stuntwork and issued an advisory about it (I'd have to check if they explicitly marketed it for that use), it was a fairly easy to get a settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I enjoyed Austin's discussion with Dreamer. That was one of the more RAW discussions that Steve has had on his podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADCAP Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 After listening to the podcast, Beulah might be the best wife ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 oh man, the Bob Backlund/ECW story was tremendous Tommy Dreamer, almost an American Male 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J. Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 110 million dollars for ECW? Uh....yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red is Dead Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 His stories about rooming with people - putting tanner on christians back, rhyno folding used towels, edge's naked superfly splash - just the imagery alone made me giggle like a nutter on the drive in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo Necro Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Tommy Dreamer > Passion of the Christ. I loved that episode. The Backlund story itself is fantastic "Paul, he's running to the ring", "No he's not" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbat Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 All these podcasts on the final days if ECW make no sense.I'm assuming the $110 million dollar meeting (yeah right) was the same television company that offered Heyman the daily syndication deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Shunna Ver 3.0 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Yeah, all the major players are framing it as a "victim of our own success" type of deal. A $110 million dollar deal doesn't fall apart because someone no shows or faxes the wrong papers. ECW had a TV deal on the table, a $110 million loan, and sell out house every night...and still couldn't make it. Seems fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromatagon Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Im cool with saying it was all Tommy's fault if you guys are 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Weren't the financial details all made public knowledge at some point? Like, during a court hearing or something. Kinda like Gertner told me one time, "We always thought the WWF was our enemy, until it turned out they owned 10% of us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbat Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Well Heyman says the ppv companies owed them some 2.5 million which Meltzer backed up but I always wad Uber the impression they were making close to $7 million dollars a year in revenue but spending $7.1. Trying to think about all this really does make Heyman the scummiest guy in wrestling.I mean, he didn't trick out his daughter or anything but all those dudes really came out in horrible positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The Unofficial ECW book lays a lot of this shit out, including how much was owed to which wrestlers which is pretty shocking. Worth looking into if you want the real skinny about the finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbat Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Can't find it, name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hardcore History: The Extremely Unauthorized Story of ECW. You can find it cheap as hell online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbat Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 $2 on kindle, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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