Jack Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Why doesn't Eddie Edwards catch as much flack as Davey. He is in most of those matches and spots. Is Kyle O'Reily the next Davey Richards? I think Richards brings out the worst in Edwards. Without him, I think Eddie's a pretty solid wrestler, a little bland, but less prone to the ridiculous excesses of Davey, and far more likeable outside the ring as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misanthrope304 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) seriously, can you teach me how to Dougie? Edited December 9, 2013 by misanthrope304 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Well, his opponent was 16, so... http://youtu.be/JPMp86PRrzU I see. In what State can a sixteen year-old get a wrestling license? Kozina's even more of a jerk than I had previously thought, and that was based on meeting him a few times. I'd like to see him try that crap with someone that knew how to fight back. It would be dwarf-tossing 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That was in Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Well, his opponent was 16, so... I see. In what State can a sixteen year-old get a wrestling license? Kozina's even more of a jerk than I had previously thought, and that was based on meeting him a few times. I'd like to see him try that crap with someone that knew how to fight back. It would be dwarf-tossing 101. What's the story here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 My first exposure to Davey was him having a terrible match with AJ Styles in 05 RoH. That says a lot about Richards. He can be good, when someone's keeping him reeled in. He might get that in NXT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KidNatural Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I think everything that has been said here has been spot on. He's a Nuke LaLoosh... Million dollar talent and a 5 cent head. When someone is in his ear telling him to chill and structuring matches for him, he's very good. Leave himself to his own devices... he's abysmal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakigatame Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 My first exposure to Davey was him having a terrible match with AJ Styles in 05 RoH. That says a lot about Richards. He can be good, when someone's keeping him reeled in. He might get that in NXT. Except Davey didn't debut in ROH until 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w. josh Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 ...and promptly had a shitty match with AJ Styles at Death Before Dishonor IV. Don't sweat the details. Davey doesn't. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool arrow Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Well, his opponent was 16, so... I see. In what State can a sixteen year-old get a wrestling license? Kozina's even more of a jerk than I had previously thought, and that was based on meeting him a few times. I'd like to see him try that crap with someone that knew how to fight back. It would be dwarf-tossing 101. What's the story here? http://www.cagesideseats.com/2012/8/3/3216134/the-indie-corner-this-is-staged-right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseCannon Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Low Ki. So, Davey Richards in WWE has a good chance of turning out like Low Ki in WWE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fresh Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Low-Ki made it to television. I don't anticipate Davey doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Conn Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 LayCool isn't around no more so does that mean Davey is gonna be paired with the the Bella's and Eva Marie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Low-Ki made it to television. I don't anticipate Davey doing that. I fear that Davey will suffer the same fate in NXT as Chris Hero. He will find some way to fuck things up. I have no problems with Davey as a worker. My first exposure to him was during my tape trading days when I scored on some German pro wrestling and watched him work with Murat Bosporous. Davey was smart enough to let Murat carry the match, bump huge, hit his spots, transition back to Murat, and stick to the script. I agree with the guy that said that Davey's NXT matches will be okay if someone reels him in. Davey hasn't learned on his own that you don't have to work every spot you know into a single match. If Davey makes the roster, he'll benefit best from a manager that does his talking for him. Davey's attitude isn't nearly as bad as Teddy Hart's is. Hart is fucking delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Davey and Romero came out to "B.M.F." in NJPW. That right there scores some points in the plus column. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyDemon Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Is this properly executed double stomp supposed to be bad or something? I think everything that has been said here has been spot on. He's a Nuke LaLoosh... Million dollar talent and a 5 cent head. When someone is in his ear telling him to chill and structuring matches for him, he's very good. Leave himself to his own devices... he's abysmal. This is likely the real truth about Davey Richards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w. josh Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 That double stomp is just a perfect example of dangerous, reckless, middle of the match spot for no reason except MOVEZ BRO. There 's no way to hit it and land well himself (as evidenced by his double flop to the floor), and he's doing the move at a weird angle while heading toward his opponent lengthwise, which means if he's off at all, he spikes Elgin's head or throat. And it's not even a near-fall. It looks good enough, but what's the point of doing something that runs a much-higher-than-normal risk of hurting you or your opponent when you're going to do twenty other equally stupid/hurty things before you get to the finish anyway? Davey in a nutshell, to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I've seen Eddie Edwards do that a bunch of times in PWG and it ends fine and doesn't land on their face either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Why doesn't Eddie Edwards catch as much flack as Davey. He is in most of those matches and spots. Is Kyle O'Reily the next Davey Richards? I think Kyle is worse than Davey. It's like a copy of a copy. I was at Davey/Shingo from a few years back and I fucking loved it. I haven't watched it since to see if it held up, but I was flipping out. Then I watched Davey wrestled Mochizuki, and he tried to do the EXACT same match with a guy who was completely different, and it felt like bullshit. Then I watched a little more and it felt like no matter who he was wrestling he'd try to shoehorn him into the same style of match. The Davey Mystique disappeared for me really quickly. The next good match I watched him in was against Colt Cabana. It was really toned down, no overkill and sold a flash KO quite brilliantly. So I truly think that if he's with somebody to tone him down he can be...adequate, I guess. I don't see him elevating to a Punk/Bryan position or even a Cesaro spot, but that's probably more because of his personality. I like matches where everything matters, and for me a lot of Davey's work is a pretty simplistic story of two supermen going until they die, just bombing each other with crazy stunts and combos. Sometimes I like that, when done right, but more often than not I feel like the match isn't for me. Like they won't leave me alone until they run through all their shit. DON'T WALK AWAY IT'S TIME FOR THE FALCON ARROW NEAR FALL! JAE WE JUST STARTED. C'MON WE GOT 30 MORE MINUTES OF THESE PLANNED. FINE WE'RE GONNA JUST KEEP GOING. SOMEONE SAY THIS IS AWESOME SO JAE FEELS LEFT OUT. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSmUgly Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I don't like Richards or Eddie Edwards at all in terms of their wrestling matches, but I guess those convoluted spots are what the ROH fans enjoy, right? It's not for me, but maybe those spots make sense in terms of popping the crowds they were working in front of. Of course a fan of JCP, WCW, or AWA in the foremost won't like them, but current ROH fans probably loved that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I've seen Eddie Edwards do that a bunch of times in PWG and it ends fine and doesn't land on their face either. What's the best case scenario for this though? No matter how I think of it, someone either gets a foot in a bad place or someone falls on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstout Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Well, his opponent was 16, so... LOL, I'll pretend U said 18... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It would be pretty cool if WWE would do a Nuke LaLoosh character, maybe not with Davey but with someone else athletic enough. Writes itself there. It seems Richards is Low Ki-lite. We'll see how his NXT "internship" plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Wyatt Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Can we please have some vignettes of Davey and Eddie getting Starbucks for the McMahons, putting out random fires that Kane sets in the Stamford offices and rolling a passed out Michael Hayes over onto his stomach before he chokes on his vomit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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