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Carano v Cyborg may have been easiest marketing job ever: Pretty girl who is daughter of former Dallas Cowboy vs evil foreign menace who may have dodgy PED history. 

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After looking at that fourm profile, I'm willing to bet high school me would have had a crush on high school Ronda. At the very least, I'd have bought her a Happy Bunny sticker for her birthday. 

I just looked up the payouts for Carano vs Cyborg and the difference is insane. $125000 to Carano, $25000 to Cyborg. Was Carano really that much more of a draw?

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7 hours ago, odessasteps said:

Thankfully, Dory appears to have come out of the Onita tag match unscathed.

What a main event, Onita (66) & Raijin Yaguchi (61 - I have to admit, I have never heard of that guy, he seems to be an early Animal Hamaguchi trainee who started on indy scum shows before settling for some time with slightly less scummy SPWF & early BJPW; in the aughts he wrestled basically everywhere) vs. Dory Funk Jr. (83) & Osamu Nishimura (52, who is fighting cancer again). The undercard had guys like Tiger Toguchi (Kim Duk, 76), Mr. Pogo (55), Ricky Fuji (58), Masahiko Takasugi (69) and everbodies favorite zombie Onyro (53).

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1 hour ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:

After looking at that fourm profile, I'm willing to bet high school me would have had a crush on high school Ronda. At the very least, I'd have bought her a Happy Bunny sticker for her birthday. 

I just looked up the payouts for Carano vs Cyborg and the difference is insane. $125000 to Carano, $25000 to Cyborg. Was Carano really that much more of a draw?

I would hazard a guess and say that is probably based on Strikeforce inheriting the contract for Cris Cyborg from EliteXC. That and you have to remember that's really Cyborg's second notable fight in the USA. The first was a year earlier against Shayna Baszler on CBS where infamously Cyborg thought she had won by TKO, hopped on top of the cage to celebrate, and then Steve Mazzagatti told her the fight wasn't over and made her beat up Shayna some more. One of the most hilariously brutal moments in MMA history. Before that, she was fighting in Brazil for the promotion pretty much owned by the Chute Boxe gym where she was training her then husband Evangelista "Cyborg". She was probably making a grand a fight then. $25,000 a fight for a female fighter then was a lot. In comparison, the reported payout for Shayna to get demolished by Cris Cyborg ON CBS was $8,000. Eight grand was probably by far and away Shayna's biggest purse at the time, and she had already been fighting for several years at this point. Hell, that was likely her biggest purse until she had that brief stint in the UFC five or six years later when Shayna was well past her fighting prime.

If it was anyone who got lowballed, it was Gina Carano. They had been building that fight up (in EliteXC before the parent company went belly up) since Cyborg debuted against Shayna. Cyborg was suppose to debut several months earlier, but I guess injuries and contractual stuff got in the way. They built that fight up for an entire year before it actually happened. Either way, both should have been making a lot more especially Gina based on the historical significance of that fight. 

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19 hours ago, Robert S said:

What a main event, Onita (66) & Raijin Yaguchi (61 - I have to admit, I have never heard of that guy, he seems to be an early Animal Hamaguchi trainee who started on indy scum shows before settling for some time with slightly less scummy SPWF & early BJPW; in the aughts he wrestled basically everywhere) vs. Dory Funk Jr. (83) & Osamu Nishimura (52, who is fighting cancer again). The undercard had guys like Tiger Toguchi (Kim Duk, 76), Mr. Pogo (55), Ricky Fuji (58), Masahiko Takasugi (69) and everbodies favorite zombie Onyro (53).

Yaguchi has been following Onita around for years. He was even part of the deal when Onita came to the US. 55 year old Mr. Pogo is Shadow WX doing a tribute to the original Pogo who died a few years ago.

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On 8/24/2024 at 1:32 AM, AxB said:

Alana Mclaughlin's MMA record still only features one fight, almost three years ago. And she's been trying to get booked on shows ever since, but it's not been happening. And her one fight, if you show it to anyone who knows their MMA, it's very obvious that she's not got an inhuman power advantage. She has the power advantage you would expect a 5'7" grappler to have over a 6'0" striker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVOp5YdPLbg

See, it's right there.

surprisingly forward thinking commentary on that video

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Ichiro Yaguchi is probably best known as the guy in facepaint who brings a giant cross to the ring with him. Or at least, from my old Big Japan five hour tape, that's what I recall. I do not know what is up with the Christian thing. 

1997 BBM Pro Wrestling - [Base] #114 - Ichiro Yaguchi

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1 hour ago, zendragon said:

god that looks like the worlds shittiest knock of Kimo Leopold 

LOL. Wish version.

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In honor of the master and ruler of the world, and after much deliberation, I present wrestling’s Mount Rushmore of physical charisma

Sid

Vader

Bull Nakano

The Great Muta

Some were close (Ahmed Johnson, La Parka, Yokozuna), but this is the list. I don’t make the rules.

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I stumbled upon this on YouTube. It’s Chris Jericho talking about The Canadian Death Tours. Looks like there’s a documentary about the tours coming out.

 

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On 8/25/2024 at 8:20 PM, ka-to said:

Yaguchi has been following Onita around for years. He was even part of the deal when Onita came to the US. 55 year old Mr. Pogo is Shadow WX doing a tribute to the original Pogo who died a few years ago.

I knew something felt wrong when I typed that Mr. Pogo part.

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On 8/26/2024 at 5:27 AM, Curt McGirt said:

Ichiro Yaguchi is probably best known as the guy in facepaint who brings a giant cross to the ring with him. Or at least, from my old Big Japan five hour tape, that's what I recall. I do not know what is up with the Christian thing. 

1997 BBM Pro Wrestling - [Base] #114 - Ichiro Yaguchi

Michael PS Hayes.

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Random thought I just had while revisiting some replies in the Sid thread (and I cannot find the Old-school questions thread for some reason):

I never really bothered to look into this, but does anyone happen to know the reason why Bigelow was the choice to wrestle LT at Mania XI? I always assumed the thought process was that having a Jersey native vs. a NY Giant would draw at the Meadowlands... 'til I realized that show was in Connecticut...

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55 minutes ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

Random thought I just had while revisiting some replies in the Sid thread (and I cannot find the Old-school questions thread for some reason):

I never really bothered to look into this, but does anyone happen to know the reason why Bigelow was the choice to wrestle LT at Mania XI? I always assumed the thought process was that having a Jersey native vs. a NY Giant would draw at the Meadowlands... 'til I realized that show was in Connecticut...

Probably factoring in who was heel at the time + ability to carry a non-wrestler to something watchable + someone with a cool, distinct look for the media attention got them to Bigelow. That's just my guess.

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IIRC Bam Bam was line for a push as a babyface, and they needed a reason for the turn. Obviously, LT was going to win so it would to be easy explain it as Bam Bam found himself as a pariah for the Million Dollar Corporation losing to a non-wrestler. By giving him a big assignment, he would get notable match (that ended being the actual main event) for WrestleMania. Now unfortunately, Vince demanded Shawn turn babyface immediately after WrestleMania and wanted to push him to the moon. So whatever chance Bam Bam had as a face ended right there. However, that was the plan. Plus, as already stated above, they thought Bam Bam could make a match with LT work. 

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I figure they went down the checkboxes and figured they needed someone who was ideally much bigger than LT and could carry a total novice to something that wouldn't be a disaster, while also being professional enough to lose the match. Bigelow ticked all the boxes. (Undertaker probably would have as well, but Bigelow had more to gain from losing, plus was also already a heel.)

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You know Vince is not giving someone a celebrity match until they think that person can do what exactly he wanted  them to do. 

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