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I am so excited for this MJF vs Samoa Joe feud. Joe can be such a confident dick and cruel bully. I can see him getting under MJF’s skin so bad. What a great feud for a face MJF to start off his reign. A month of promos/ segments and then the match. Maybe Samoa Joe can brutally eat Adam Cole? Maybe he’ll mock MJF’s mom? EEEEEE I’m excited! 

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Matt D

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6 minutes ago, Octopus said:

I am so excited for this MJF vs Samoa Joe feud. Joe can be such a confident dick and cruel bully. I can see him getting under MJF’s skin so bad. What a great feud for a face MJF to start off his reign. A month of promos/ segments and then the match. Maybe Samoa Joe can brutally eat Adam Cole? Maybe he’ll mock MJF’s mom? EEEEEE I’m excited! 

MJF has been wrestling more and more like an 80s WWF babyface. I want him to talk Joe into working it like Hogan vs Bossman/Earthquake/Andre/etc with the end game of getting the crowd to chant "Escape the Blue Cage!" with him as he convinces Tony to bankroll a blue cage.

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Belgian_Waffle

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Count me in with the enthusiasm for MJF vs Joe. I was legit scared watching the Kingdom segment on Dynamite because you have three heels nobody takes seriously and who aren't exciting in the ring and who aren't young and (based on that segment) are potential ratings killers long term because it's three guys who aren't good talkers but are apparently comfortable taking their time on the mic. Joe isn't young but he's the opposite of Strong/Taven/Bennett in every other respect: credible, dynamic, established, concise. Hopefully the tease that Strong is winning the Eliminator tournament results in him just losing in the finals to a babyface with some interference from Cole or something. The idea that O'Reilly is coming back to join this group is downright terrifying in terms of creating a four headed chimera of awful promos, although he's at least an semi-interesting opponent for Max. 

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17 minutes ago, Octopus said:

I am so excited for this MJF vs Samoa Joe feud. Joe can be such a confident dick and cruel bully. I can see him getting under MJF’s skin so bad. What a great feud for a face MJF to start off his reign. A month of promos/ segments and then the match. Maybe Samoa Joe can brutally eat Adam Cole? Maybe he’ll mock MJF’s mom? EEEEEE I’m excited! 

Same, friend.

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22 minutes ago, Matt D said:

MJF has been wrestling more and more like an 80s WWF babyface. I want him to talk Joe into working it like Hogan vs Bossman/Earthquake/Andre/etc with the end game of getting the crowd to chant "Escape the Blue Cage!" with him as he convinces Tony to bankroll a blue cage.

I was thinking about that as well. Joe being the monster of the month for MJF to conquer. It works so well that they have the past moment of shove when Max was an extra. Add in the character history of his anger being driven by being bullied in school. This feud makes sense and can play into their strengths as performers. Maybe we’ll see a match like Sting vs Vader.

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Matt D

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So... let's start to think about Grand Slam, shall we?

Three hours to fill, two of Dynamite and one of Rampage. Or is it two and two like last year?

It's a lot to set up in 16 days but we're not supposed to give Tony crap for that.

There are a few stories that aren't ready to cook, like Jericho vs Sammy (or Jericho/Sammy vs FTR? if they don't go the other way with it? or Jericho/Sammy vs MJF/Cole if Jericho got his way which he won't) or Cole vs Strong. Here's what I think we do get though.

  • MJF vs Samoa Joe
  • Claudio vs Eddie Kingston
  • Toni Storm vs Ruby Soho

Past that, I'm not sure. What would you like to see?

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3 minutes ago, Matt D said:

 

  • MJF vs Samoa Joe
  • Claudio vs Eddie Kingston
  • Toni Storm vs Ruby Soho

Past that, I'm not sure. What would you like to see?

MJF vs Joe seems like a very welcome given. 

Claudio vs Eddie I presume they're saving for the next ROH ppv main but since you've proposed it I wouldn't mind them doing it on TV so Eddie can win with bigger exposure. Him holding up the ROH whatever NJ belt he has at the same time with the black and yellow confetti falling is a nice visual. 

They should probably get the belt off Saraya sooner than later given her limitations in the ring. Who should best her tho? I've always been dumbfounded by people's enthusiasm for Toni Storm but her new character really is entertaining and something new... just not sure you want to keep going back to her as champ so often. When I was watching the ppv last night I started thinking they should have just had Stat drop the belt to Ruby because of Saraya's interference then have Stat immediately rebound/upgrade by beating Saraya for the big belt at Grand Slam but obviously they didn't go in that direction. Willow should be champ soon but her vs Saraya with no build isn't a very exciting program. So maybe just bite the bullet and have DMD win it again so she can drop it down the line to Willow it Hayter when she's back. Given who Saraya's dating I would love for her to drop the belt in a squash to Nyla Rose but Nyla's so far out of the title picture I know that one ain't happening. Another fantasy scenario: casino battle royal for a shot at Saraya at Grand Slam, the Joker is Serena Deeb, Deeb wins and becomes new champ as a babyface. 

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5 minutes ago, Belgian_Waffle said:

Claudio vs Eddie I presume they're saving for the next ROH ppv main but since you've proposed it I wouldn't mind them doing it on TV so Eddie can win with bigger exposure. Him holding up the ROH whatever NJ belt he has at the same time with the black and yellow confetti falling is a nice visual. 

Next PPV isn't until December. Seems like a bridge too far if you ask me. I'd have Eddie win at Arthur Ashe and then do a Fight Without Honor for the main event of the December PPV.

I also have no idea who should beat Saraya. I like the idea of giving Athena all the belts in a Kenny Omega sort of way but I'm not sure anyone else would go for that. Deeb recently popped back up at the CAC to give Mickie James an award but I can't see her as a babyface right now. Watch them hotshot Jade vs Saraya.

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I would be totally down with Athena amassing belts. And on that note (and I presume this has been discussed before but I'm catching up) do we think the inspiration for the MJF/Cole long term saga with lots of detours and side players is to attempt something akin to the Bloodline/Zayne & Owens type epic sprawl? Because if so you could start setting up a BTYBB vs FTR rematch with BTYBB getting the belts this time. I know everyone expects/wants Bullet Club to beat FTR but Max & Cole vs White & Juice is a fresh matchup and would be entertaining as hell (and this coming from someone who hates Juice). But in any event you wouldn't run MJF/Cole vs FTR again on Grand Slam if you're already doing MJF vs Joe. 

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15 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

You’d think giving Kingston a win in New York (even if it is Queens) would likely send the crowd home happy. 

You are aware he is actually from Yonkers right (which unlike Queens is not part of NYC)?

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Apparently during Labor Day 2024, Chicago is hosting the Democratic National Convention. So running All Out there as well might be tricky.

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Looking forward to see how AEW shakes out this week. MJF/Samoa Joe is a feud I am into. The Cole stuff was not for me, not the substance but the execution, but  with Joe you can build a Flair/Vader dynamic (wish Joe hadn’t just lost a high profile singles match but Tony’s firmly in the lemonade business right now)

Danielson taking a bigger hand on Collision is a positive too. The Saturday show doesn’t have to be complicated, use the KISS principle and it should be fine

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5 hours ago, AxB said:

Apparently during Labor Day 2024, Chicago is hosting the Democratic National Convention. So running All Out there as well might be tricky.

The DNC ends almost two weeks (8/19 to 8/22) before Labor Day (9/2). 

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We're slugging along (my guess is that we just used up our traffic count for the month in a few days with the firing and PPV of the Year or what have you and are being throttled if "traffic count" is a thing), but there is another fun match!

 

 

 

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