TheVileOne Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: These are okay, but we can go hotter. I need an earnest "might as well let WWE have MJF." AEW might as well let WWE have MJF if this is how they are going to book him going into a title run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, LF2 said: And what kind of booking “genius” doesn’t find room on an 11 match PPV card for Hangman Page, Orange Cassidy, Miro, Daniel Garcia, Wheeler Yuta, Eddie Kingston, and FTR??? That part I’m being deadly serious about too. People need to normalize leaving big names off some PPVs if they really believe what they're saying about them being too long. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, John from Cincinnati said: 818k, .28 demo. Looks like third-lowest rating of the year, second-lowest on Dynamite's regular night. Counting on everyone for outrageous takes, thank you. The show and company absolutely sucks. What a criminal waste of momentum and potential. A lot riding on them actually creating a meaningful angle from whatever they do at this PPV. Edited November 17, 2022 by A_K 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: People need to normalize leaving big names off some PPVs if they really believe what they're saying about them being too long. When he can make time for some of the lesser matches (Jungle Boy, Sting/Darby vs JJ/Lethal) then I think he can figure out how to fit his All Atlantic champion on the card. Plus Hangman is like Bryan, Mox, and MJF. He shouldn’t ever be left off a PPV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Hangman is injured. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, LF2 said: When he can make time for some of the lesser matches (Jungle Boy, Sting/Darby vs JJ/Lethal) then I think he can figure out how to fit his All Atlantic champion on the card. Plus Hangman is like Bryan, Mox, and MJF. He shouldn’t ever be left off a PPV. For fucks sake, Hangman is out with a concussion. Man, a whole lot of dog brained hot takes on here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.K.o.S. Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Definitely time to panic! Tony Khan should lead off Full Gear by coming out screaming, with his hair on fire, and just running in circles for 3 minutes while they play emergency sirens over the stadium speakers. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, S.K.o.S. said: Definitely time to panic! Tony Khan should lead off Full Gear by coming out screaming, with his hair on fire, and just running in circles for 3 minutes while they play emergency sirens over the stadium speakers. If emergency sirens are ringing but there's no one in the stadium to hear them, are they even ringing? Edited November 17, 2022 by A_K 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just drew Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, LF2 said: Can’t we just give WWE Britt Baker instead? That would hurt the woman’s division (AEW’s I mean) more than losing MJF would hurt the mens division. And what kind of booking “genius” doesn’t find room on an 11 match PPV card for Hangman Page, Orange Cassidy, Miro, Daniel Garcia, Wheeler Yuta, Eddie Kingston, and FTR??? That part I’m being deadly serious about too. Miro’s filming shit. Hanger’s out. I get the feeling Eddie is in the doghouse. I bet Garcia & Yutes will be big parts of the ROH ppv. FTR has some AAA and NJPW commitments coming up, I bet. Chillax. I’d bet we get a pretty hard reset after this ppv. Edited November 17, 2022 by just drew 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said: Definitely time to panic! Tony Khan should lead off Full Gear by coming out screaming, with his hair on fire, and just running in circles for 3 minutes while they play emergency sirens over the stadium speakers. Isn’t that just Jeff Jarrett’s theme? 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksweats Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, LF2 said: When he can make time for some of the lesser matches (Jungle Boy, Sting/Darby vs JJ/Lethal) then I think he can figure out how to fit his All Atlantic champion on the card. Plus Hangman is like Bryan, Mox, and MJF. He shouldn’t ever be left off a PPV. I mean Orange has been a focus of TV as of late, I understand the urge to give a PPV payday but I mean, it isn't that he isn't getting alot of attention. He did just wrestle Shibata. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, Craig H said: For fucks sake, Hangman is out with a concussion. Man, a whole lot of dog brained hot takes on here. I honestly forgot he was. I stand by most of what I said including Orange Cassidy should have got booked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, LF2 said: When he can make time for some of the lesser matches (Jungle Boy, Sting/Darby vs JJ/Lethal) then I think he can figure out how to fit his All Atlantic champion on the card. Plus Hangman is like Bryan, Mox, and MJF. He shouldn’t ever be left off a PPV. The answer is go the other way and drop three matches from the show. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, just drew said: Miro’s filming shit. Hanger’s out. I get the feeling Eddie is in the doghouse. I bet Garcia & Yutes will be big parts of the ROH ppv. FTR has some AAA and NJPW commitments coming up, I bet. Chillax. I’d bet we get a pretty hard reset after this ppv. ROH PPV is meaningless. They don’t draw worth a darn (compared to the AeW numbers). Eddie’s on Rampage tomorrow so he could have been booked is what I meant. FTR isn’t working New Japan until 1/4 as far as I know. Plus AAA isn’t running as Sammy, Fenix, and Pentagon are all on the PPV. It’s just silly some of the guys he’ll put on PPV but other name talent he’ll leave off just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Adam Bay Bay Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said: The answer is go the other way and drop three matches from the show. Using this idea what 3 would you cut? I’m obviously in favor of dropping the Jarrett tag, the cage match (it would be a good tv main event), and if I had to pick a third I’d move the TNT title match to Rampage tomorrow as the main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, LF2 said: ROH PPV is meaningless. They don’t draw worth a darn (compared to the AeW numbers). Eddie’s on Rampage tomorrow so he could have been booked is what I meant. FTR isn’t working New Japan until 1/4 as far as I know. Plus AAA isn’t running as Sammy, Fenix, and Pentagon are all on the PPV. It’s just silly some of the guys he’ll put on PPV but other name talent he’ll leave off just because. Eddie is getting horribly punished by getting to have his ultimate dream match vs Jun Akiyama. I'm sure he's extremely upset about it. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, LF2 said: When he can make time for some of the lesser matches (Jungle Boy, Sting/Darby vs JJ/Lethal) then I think he can figure out how to fit his All Atlantic champion on the card. Plus Hangman is like Bryan, Mox, and MJF. He shouldn’t ever be left off a PPV. They have 11 matches on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, LF2 said: Using this idea what 3 would you cut? I’m obviously in favor of dropping the Jarrett tag, the cage match (it would be a good tv main event), and if I had to pick a third I’d move the TNT title match to Rampage tomorrow as the main event. Jarrett tag most definitely 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the recovering AEW f Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, John from Cincinnati said: 818k, .28 demo. Looks like third-lowest rating of the year, second-lowest on Dynamite's regular night. Counting on everyone for outrageous takes, thank you. Rock solid proof that Burger King Chalkenger Brand AEW is a miserable catastrophic failure. Time to do a hard shift back into being a big weird indie catering specifically and exclusively to the hardcore fan-base. Spoiler Like me. Even though I live in Japan and my viewership (and that of all but two of the group of AEW nerds from all over the world I chat with online) is apparently meaningless in measuring how successful the company is Spoiler First time ever that a one off low rating plays into my personal crackpot theories! Spoiler It's fun. I see now why some folks can't help themselves. Edited November 17, 2022 by Gordlow 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 The show is just not good right now. There’s no way around it. Crowds sounded terrible the last two weeks Too much inconsistent booking, lack of vision, and the ROH problem. Khan has failed as a leader and the All Out incident is proof of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Gordlow said: Rock solid proof that Burger King Chalkenger Brand AEW is a miserable catastrophic failure. Time to do a hard shift back into being a big weird indie catering specifically and exclusively to the hardcore fan-base. Hide contents Like me. Even though I live in Japan and my viewership (and that of all but two of the group of AEW nerds from all over the world I chat with online) is apparently meaningless in measuring how successful the company is Hide contents First time ever that a one off low rating plays into my personal crackpot theories! Hide contents It's fun. I see now why some folks can't help themselves. sickosmeme.jpg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I'm pretty certain that AEW's never been particularly good at doing the things that people suddenly seem to be wanting it to do whereas it's still good at a lot of the things that it's always been good at, getting you excited that tomorrow Eddie Kingston's going to be facing Jun Akiyama or that we've got a Samoa Joe vs Wardlow vs Hobbs match in a day or two or whatever. The most exciting part of any Dynamite is when they announce the matches for Rampage and the most exciting part of any Rampage is when they announce the matches for Dynamite and the most exciting part of the PPVs is knowing you're going to see a bunch of matches not structured with the commercial breaks, which isn't great for all the time, but is good once in a while. It's a promotion that has a ton of talent, most of which are really fun to watch in the ring, that lets them wrestle the sort of matches they want to wrestle, and that has some slight patina of stories and angles to give them reason to wrestle. And that's great! I don't even know what's going on here right now. Is there a time where AEW was magically something different than that? Not in the last year and a half certainly. 11 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, LF2 said: Using this idea what 3 would you cut? I’m obviously in favor of dropping the Jarrett tag, the cage match (it would be a good tv main event), and if I had to pick a third I’d move the TNT title match to Rampage tomorrow as the main event. time to combine 4 matches into one Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, Luchasaurus, Chris Jericho, Sammy Guevara, Britt Baker vs Darby Allin, Sting, Jungle Boy, Claudio, Bryan Danielson, Saraya in.... the Chamber of Horrors 4 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) The simple answer is they put a lot of stock in CM Punk, and that stock has crashed like crypto trading company. They gave the dude their top belt twice in ppv main events, and each time he didn't make through the next Dynamite with the strap. Everything was lined up for him to be on top this summer, then bring it back around to cement a top homegrown, whether it be MJF or Wardlow. The downstream effects of Punk's bad luck and fuck-ups are being felt well down the roster. I don't really blame TK for going all in with Punk, as that looked like a good idea all the way through the dog collar match, and honestly, this would be a tough mess to clean up for anybody. I think his worst decision in the fallout was going back to Mox as champ. He needed to take his vacation as planned while Danielson or Omega righted the ship. Edited November 18, 2022 by Go2Sleep 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_K Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 200k more viewers than NXT for the flagship show leading into a PPV? Jesus. Resume heads in the sand, gentlemen. What a waste of talent and potential storytelling. Edited November 18, 2022 by A_K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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