WRESTLEDREAM II - 10/12/2024

[Greggulator]

Oh, the ultimate “there is no hope” ending is Dump shaving Chigusa’s head. Duh. That’s the peak.

[Niners Fan in CT]

I think I'd be higher on the finish if Mox had explained more in his promos of what their motivation is and if the night ended with some sort of "Oh wow! ok!"  moment but as is it just feels like the same old same old from Mox and the BCC and I also felt the pass out from Danielson was very abrupt.  

It's something where I can find myself liking it more down the road if the payoff is something worthwhile.  

I do think it's leading to Darby revenge tour so that's kinda cool 

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

1 hour ago, just drew said:

First of all, damn, man, what do you like? And this is coming from ME.

Second, Yuta didn’t look happy to be doing what he did. I’d love for him to come out Wednesday and say something like “Delores Yuta didn’t raise any fools. Mox & the rest of these guys are here today. Bryan isn’t. This was self preservation.” Something like that. 

He posted earlier in thread about liking Willow/Mariah May. Which makes sense, as Willow is fantastic.

[Hamhock]

Moxley the character reminds me of someone who secretly can’t read or write, whose hidden shame of his own dullardness fuels his animus and rage towards others - he can’t even express it verbally/logically above a sub-literate level; he just feels and acts.

[ExcellenceofAirPollution]

I'm hoping Moxley/BCC win all the titles one by one.....slowly they're added to the bag........

I'm still working on the rest.  My first two ideas were a big mega title bigger than the Saudi one and b) melting them down for a giant gold chain.  This clearly needs workshopping

[Curt McGirt]

3 hours ago, Lawful Metal said:

Fletcher going full heel is interesting because Fletcher and Takeshita despite actually being heels are like straight up babyfaces.  I don't know why you try to double down and fight it.  Very Vince-like.

It would be neat if they eventually just spurned Callis, did not turn face, and ended up being the cool heels everybody wants them to be. 

Now I'm imagining Renee just subtly naming stuff off menus for Mox in restaurants, specifically going for the stuff she knows he likes, and signing for the check because he doesn't know how to do the math for a tip. And him just making long, long passages into a portable tape player (the old kind with the microphone built in) to "write" his book. (Well, I can see that one actually happening, especially considering how it reads.)

[Octopus]

4 hours ago, Matt D said:

Here's my take on Danielson vs Mox.

 

Beautifully written, you tweetin machine!

[southofheavy]

Yeah, that piece is awesome. 

My favorite part, adding to the litany of suspected Jon Moxley learning disabilities: "He probably still types with two fingers."

Edited October 14, 2024 by southofheavy

[Curt McGirt]

The inference that Mox either wasn't in fifth grade or couldn't figure out how to play Oregon Trail in it is even funnier. 

[username]

I look at the reaction to the main and I have a thought. There are rules to pro wrestling, and it's not that you can't break them but that it is generally a bad idea to do so. AEW booked and promoted a match they ultimately had no intention of delivering in Danielson/Darby (they can theoretically run it a year or four down the road but that's so far in an indeterminate future it isn't really worth considering) and that breaks one of the big ones. On top of that it only became 100% clear this was the case when Mox won the title and even if not recognized on a conscious level I believe the disappointment broke through and shaded the moment. Fans will play along and boo Mox & Co for their dastardly attack but taking away that promised match that people wanted to see that gets directed at the company itself. I think Livingston earlier wrote something about people being distracted by what could have been to the detriment of what actually is... but that overlooks the fact that the could have been was put into the audience's mind by the company itself and if they find that preferable to what was actually delivered or resent it being yanked away it ain't the audience's fault, it was the bookers who decided to play with fire.

Or to state it simply: you run this exact same match and aftermath in a world where the Danielson/Darby match took place and it is my honest belief that it'd have been received much better.

Other quick thought: I understand why things are this way but I do not envy whoever has to write that first Adam Cole promo back and explain away all his past actions as those of a good guy. Then again, I look at Statlander and maybe they won't even bother.

[Craig H]

I want OC to beat Moxley for the title and at the end of the match, look at the title, then look at the black bag they're keeping the title in, give a shruge, put the title in that bag, and then put THAT into OC's Jansport backpack.

[Octopus]

1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:

The inference that Mox either wasn't in fifth grade or couldn't figure out how to play Oregon Trail in it is even funnier. 

What the fuck is dysentery?! 

[Curt McGirt]

"But why does it make a 'k' sound when there's a 'ch' there?" 

"That's just how it's pronounced, Johnathan. Now say it again with me... 'cholera'. KA-LER-AH."

[The Natural]

Meltzer:

Bryan Danielson retired as a full-time wrestler last night after losing the AEW World title to Jon Moxley. There is a lot to say about his career that we talked about on the show last night. He went out the way he wanted and the door is open for a return as a part-timer should he feel up to doing that. As he talked about this past week, it’s not a guarantee as he is going to undergo neck surgery and then he’ll make a decision. History tells us he’ll probably come back at least for some matches although who knows where the BCC will be by the time he’s ready to return.  

I talked last night about the first time I saw Danielson live, sitting with Nick Bockwinkel and Red Bastien, and their thoughts on that night and how it ended up changing the history of wrestling in a significant way. He got the career he dreamed of and better, and was a real credit to this industry. I know many didn’t like that it ended with a real heat angle and the reality is you just don’t know. In the past, angles like this have greatly boosted business but this is a very different era with different fans.

Edited October 14, 2024 by The Natural

[The Natural]

7 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

The inference that Mox either wasn't in fifth grade or couldn't figure out how to play Oregon Trail in it is even funnier. 

 

5 hours ago, Octopus said:

What the fuck is dysentery?! 

The Teen Titans GO! episode on the Oregon Trail is very funny.

[Gorman]

9 hours ago, southofheavy said:

Yeah, that piece is awesome. 

My favorite part, adding to the litany of suspected Jon Moxley learning disabilities: "He probably still types with two fingers."

I watched the MasterClass with Goosebumps author RL Stine, and he wrote 300 books with one finger.

[The Natural]

10 hours ago, southofheavy said:

Yeah, that piece is awesome. 

My favorite part, adding to the litany of suspected Jon Moxley learning disabilities: "He probably still types with two fingers."

 

1 hour ago, Gorman said:

I watched the MasterClass with Goosebumps author RL Stine, and he wrote 300 books with one finger.

My late great Mum was a qualified touch typing receptionist and taught me to. I can't remember the position you put your hands on the keyboard to reach all the keys but I can touch type without looking at the screen with two fingers. I tell people it's like a sixth sense...not the movie, smart arses or a spider-sense.

[AxB]

Speaking of AEW wrestlers and Oregon Trail:

https://x.com/MikeyRukus/status/1394505449475555328

is an oldie but a goodie

[Stefanie Sparkleface]

1 hour ago, The Natural said:

 

My late great Mum was a qualified touch typing receptionist and taught me to. I can't remember the position you put your hands on the keyboard to reach all the keys but I can touch type without looking at the screen with two fingers. I tell people it's like a sixth sense...not the movie, smart arses or a spider-sense.

I'm the same, I learned how to type when I was like... four or five by hunting and pecking with two fingers, then I was touch-typing with two fingers, then I just got faster with it. I can usually get to 70-75wpm with the pointer fingers, and I occasionally use the middle on my left hand.

[The Natural]

5 minutes ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

I'm the same, I learned how to type when I was like... four or five by hunting and pecking with two fingers, then I was touch-typing with two fingers, then I just got faster with it. I can usually get to 70-75wpm with the pointer fingers, and I occasionally use the middle on my left hand.

Good having a fellow touch typist!

Edited October 14, 2024 by The Natural

[Matt D]

Do note that I did have a point there! It’s not a judgment on how anyone is typing! 

I don't know if I actually needed that bit but I want to get across the idea that he's not like a lot of long time pro wrestling fans who had a shared online experience. Danielson, Punk, Hero, Eddie. They're all like them. If you read Mox's book, he's something else entirely. 
 

[Curt McGirt]

How about this analogy: Moxley is analog as compared with digital.

[just drew]

9 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

How about this analogy: Moxley is analog as compared with digital.

Mox is the baseball bat those guys from Office Space use to murder the shit out of that printer…

[Curt McGirt]

That's way better than me just simplifying Matt's idea

[Matt D]

10 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

How about this analogy: Moxley is analog as compared with digital.

Moxley does not know who Mavis Beacon and Carmen Sandiego are?