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I don't know if you want all WWE TV to be the "Daniel Bryan is the Greatest Wrestler in History Fan Club Show", but the things you're complaining about is pretty ridiculous. Being a main eventer doesn't mean always coming out on top, and losing to other top stars in competitive matches and getting dissed in promos doesn't means you're buried. BULL. This is honestly the biggest piece of selective memory I've seen on a wrestling board in some time. They've: - From the first day said he was nothing, pointed out that he has no charisma or mic skills and buried him with The Miz. He got the most high profile angle on the NXT TV show, came back as the special tag partner for Team Cena as a HUGE deal in his first PPV match, then was the only guy who got a big feud with an established guy in the Miz while the Nexus guys all got downsized. He was put down by heels, that's what heels do. I don't know if you want every feud with Daniel Bryan to be his opponent saying "you're the greatest, I'm not worthy". - Called him a geek, nerd, troll and goat for months on end. Heels and heel commentators say bad things about faces. It means he's important and the heels are jealous of him/dislike him because of the good he stands for. The unimportant ones either get nothing or get fake compliments for heels to show how full of shit the heels are. - When he got hot, they tried to turn him heel and make him yell NO, instead of YES. They did this for months on end for no real reason. He did turn heel. And it got him more over. His run with AJ was fantastic. YES was a face chant, NOs got him heel heat. No different than Angle and the "You suck" chants. A device to get heat - They pushed him as the weak link in a team with KANE. As part of a redemption angle that ended with him being the first worker to get a fall over the unstoppable Shield. - The whole Team Hell No storyline. Hugfests, seeing psychiatrists, getting in arguments at fast food restaurants then having Kane hunt him like he was Jason and have him run. Which all got super over and clearly had alot of time put into them. - Despite having multiple matches with main eventers like Orton and others, they said he wasn't in their league. And then he BEAT them. Heels said it, he proved them wrong. - They buried him for months against the Authority. DB got laid out and beaten down so many times that I thought I was watching reruns. He was the main protagonist to the biggest heel stable. He got outnumbered, that's the whole point of former stables, to outnumber people. Whenever he got any Authority member one of one fairly, he won. - They tried to turn him heel again with the Wyatt Family for no reason whatsoever. They did it for like two weeks. It was clearly planned to be a faux turn, and the ending got a ridiculous pop. It's an angle they run all the time, see Orton/Authority, Punk/New Breed, the face joins the heel group to gain their trust and secrets and then beats them up. Its the best way to get past a stable leader's lackeys. - They've produced some of the worst merchandise ever for him. They make terrible merch for everybody ever not named Punk or Edge. - They ruined two Royal Rumble's consecutively so he didn't win and did everything in their power to try to kill the heat. They put him over top heel Seth Rollins one week later in 2015, and he was selling a Sister Abigail to the guard-rail in 2014. Using DB to put over a guy they clearly see as future #1 heel in Bray isn't burying him, and if they wanted to kill his heat after, they'd make what he does unimportant or just keep him off tv. - They've ignored all of his popularity in his hometown and didn't even mention his various things with celebrities and the parade. They held the 2013 Slammy award in Washington just cause DB was winning Superstar of the Year - They have the easiest storyline ever in a face DB trying to get the belt back that he never lost against Brock and ignore it. They then have him lose to Big Daddy Cool Reigns and verbally suck him off. Cause they're building Reigns. Losing to Reigns in a 30 minute match isn't a burial, it's losing to your equal. They treated him as Reigns' equal throughout and after the feud, he just couldn't stop the man on a mission on that night. They did stuff like that with Hart and Foley all the time, when you're at that bulletproof level you can take a loss or two. - They then strap him in a WM ladder match with other people they aren't pushing, don't want to push, will never push and don't know what to do with. Those people are in the Andre the Giant Memorial match. The IC Title match is for "guys that are important that they stay over, but we can't all give one on one matches (and R-Truth)". And they've made DB the centre of the match and compared him going for the belt to guys like Savage and Steamboat and mentioned that winning would mean HE'S HELD EVERY BELT IN THE COMPANY IN UNDER 5 YEARS. Compare all this with way Roman Reigns has been booked in the last year and tell me he wasn't being buried. Bullshit. He's not Roman. Roman needs to be protected for his character's aura. DB's character is about overcoming odds. He can't overcome shit if he's never struggling or nevr being mistreated. Quite frankly, Roman needs more stuf to overcome if he wants to get over like Bryan. I've watched a lot of wrestling in my day and don't remember anyone else having to go through a fraction of what he's had to go through. You know the best part? He made almost all of it work, got more over no matter what crap they gave him and it's still not good enough! You don't remember because you've haven't seen a superstar come in and EVERY angle he's ever been in has been treated as important like Bryan for such an extended period since Taker or Brock. He's never once been a "we have nothing for you, you're gonna be off tv for a while guy" or "treading water on Superstars guy" or a "feud that's totally unimportant with no story behind it guy". Every thing they do with Bryan has a plan behind it and ends with him more over. That can happen once or twice for everybody, but with Bryan it's clear it's be design, otherwhile they'd Zack Ryder him and move on. He doesn't win every match and doesn't need to, his character development goes much deeper than "guy who wins all the time". But they've invested a shitload in him in terms of tv time and big moments/wins, and I don't what else you need to be a main eventer unless main eventer is only if you're THE MAN all the time ala Cena or Hogan.

Daniel Bryan stretches and takes in the view at Levi's Stadium.

I did find the whole "this is what REAL women look like!" line sort of funny. I get what they were going for but two super thin, super toned, very traditionally attractive women with professional hair extensions and makeup compared to two super thin, super toned, very traditionally attractive women with professional hair extensions and makeup and one has implants isn't the huge difference they seem to think it is.

Until I realized this was a typo, I thought you had gone deep and poetic on us.

Which two assholes from this board are these?

So anyway, this just popped up on my instagram...

"That Roman Reigns's ring work wasn't half bad." "No, it was all bad!"

I hope Tara does a run in just to piss you off.

"BRYAN BRYAN BRYAN!!!"

I see what you did there.

I don't think some of y'all know what "burial" means.

I think that was everyone.

So my meds didn't cost as much as I thought, so I had a little extra money, and... Yeah, Pillars of Eternity runs on my machine, and hoshit I have been teleported back 10 years and this is gorgeous and awesome. I'm sure the cats and my Mom will remind me to eat and sleep. ;-)

The only logical booking is for the Undertaker to somehow bestow his powers on Luke Harper so we get Super-Unbeatable-Zombie-Wizard Luke Harper who dominates the WWE for the next 20 years.

When I was a kid, Tito Santana wasn't my favorite wrestler, but it was damn close. You have to keep in mind, I started watching in 1990, and while Survivor Series 1990 was important to me as it was the PPV I rented over and over those first many months of watching, he wasn't a big star at that point. He was a mid-card babyface who would hit his flying forearm and knock the heel out of the ring and ultimately lose because that was the last bullet in his gun. I hadn't realized at that point that for years he used the figure-four. When he became El Matador, he seemed more distant to me, but I was glad he had a second finisher now (and a pretty cool one at that) because it made his matches instantly more interesting. When Razor Ramon came in, I instantly disliked him because when he said Hey Chico, I thought he was saying Hey Tito. I always felt some weird sense of pride that he was the guy, with Hogan, who was on the first nine Wrestlemanias. That stat meant something to me for some reason because even though Hogan wasn't my guy, Tito was. He was always a sentimental favorite for me, and it's not hard to see why. Tito Santana is the ultimate babyface. He's one of two people, with Steamboat, who I think never really played heel their whole career, at least not on a big stage. He's supposed to be the nicest wrestler in real life and one of the best people, a family man, a humble man and a kind man, and it came through in his character. There was the "latin temper" sure, but he was just a good guy. More than that, though, he perfected the simplest, most straightforward, and one of the most effective structures in wrestling: shine, heat, comeback. He'll talk about this on shoot interviews too, so it's theory. It's not just instinct like what you get out of other wrestlers. It's theory and dogma and it works. He outwrestles the heel to start. The heel cheats to get an advantage. He takes a beating. He comes back. They go to the finish. There is no wrestling more primal than that. He's amazing because he does the simple things so very well. He's great at working a hold during a shine. He's great at selling for his opponent during the heat. And he's great at showing that righteous fury during the comeback. He's the quintessential WWF TV worker of the 1980s, sure, but Santana vs Valentine might be the greatest feud in WWF history. If you actually sit down and watch the matches, as many as we have now thanks to the footage explosion of the last few years, that's a picture which really becomes arguable. He's one of the wrestlers I wish we had more of the territory work of. His AWA match against the High Flyers was in my top ten on the AWA set and there are some Bockwinkel matches that it kills me we only have clipped or not at all. Like I said, even coming in years after his major push, Tito was one of my favorite wrestlers. I always kind of envy the fans who came in a few years before me and really got to experience him as a force. I'm not sure I can think of any wrestler I'd want to cheer for more.

Sherri was my first wrestling crush as a kid, never cared much for Elizabeth. I remember when she would start with the crazy makeup that it was unique and demanded attention. Over time it was very easy to focus on how attractive she was, and there was that crazy factor that was hard to pass up. But she was such a damn good manager. Though Dibiase and Savage didn't need her to get over, she certainly added a lot when pairing with them. Shawn's heel run was a lot better with her as a manager. And Harlem Heat got more attention with her as well. I feel she gets overlooked when talking about the best managers of all-time. But man was she fun to watch.

It's just her size and athleticism. She's so much smaller than everyone else -- the Bellas can club the hell out of the other girls and Nikki does The Rack Attack. Paige is like a foot taller and has really great strikes. AJ has to use knots and twists (like the Black Widow) to really look credible. She's really good at portraying herself as clever and she does a really good job selling, I think. I still think she's the best mic-worker and actress of the lot. But that gap has narrowed. It used to be "infinite" but now it's "oh, they kind of gave it right back and didn't seem like idiots." I still think the Bellas need some help. Or the writing staff needs to tweak things more. AJ calling them failed actresses was met with "I'm not a failed actress." That's no-selling an insult and if HHH or someone did that the internet would be aflame. Something like: "You're a failed champion," while holding up the title triumphantly or "I'm not a failed actress. I'm the star of a hit TV show. I walk red carpets while you sign autographs for nerds at comic conventions" would have been aces. But still, it's way better than Cameron yawning when AJ was running her down in 2013. I did love Paige playing up her counterculture goth deal. She and AJ are the everywomen who have to overcome their professional jealousies and past tense relationship to beat the conniving champ and her twin sister. It's a really great simple feud that they've but some heat into. I really do believe AJ and Paige hate The Bellas.

At this point I'll just be glad when Mania's over. The build has been terrible, but there could be a few gems on the show. Having 7 matches scheduled for a 4 hour show, and two of those matches featuring 50+ year old guys doesn't exactly give me high hopes going in though.

Little Girl on the right side totally fucking makes the entire gif

Friday Night Lights fans are the TV equivalent of the noisy Daniel Bryan fans around here.

Actual tears of laughter at the thought of this. Just imaging EXCITABLE FACE COMMENTATOR VINCE trying to put it over "HAHAHAAAAAA WHATTA RIDE FOR THE BABY BULL! ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE WWF"

Dude had to pay his own gas to get to the vets though...

In preparation for Wrestlemania I just watched this instant classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur6XdaGNlTY Truly a must-see for every wrestling fan. One of the dog's wrestling moves is pissing his opponent in the face and then choking him until he passes out. I've never seen that one before, I think.

As per usual - it is all Matt's Fault

I'm sure Ian paid the dude in painkillers and had a fairly decent veterinarian take care of the stitches.

So, we're doing the Cop Station/ Rashkovsky's Car bit of the Prison Break set-up. You've got me, Luke, Paperback Ryback/ Petrol CB and a random kid who's level 14. I say me and Luke should do the Cargo ship, and Petrol and kid should do Police Station, but kid's like No, I want the combat mission, I want to get headshots. We trying to tell him that he hasn't unlocked Health Upgrades and decent armour and shouldn't go anywhere near a fight like that, but he's insistent. So we try it, and he dies a few times, and eventually he says he'll stay back and Snipe (even though he won't have unlocked a Sniper Rifle at all) while Luke basically solos it. Finally they've done their bit, and we've got the timetable and torched the police car, and lost the cops after I accidentally ran over a fireman on the way back, and I'm walking in my front door to drop the timetable in the planning room... and we fail. Because he died. Because after they dropped the car off, Luke started shooting at cars (to get more kills, to guarantee the Platinum for himself), and idiot kid joined in. But rather than stay behind the barrier in cover like Luke was, Idiot Kid was walking down the middle of the freeway spraying bullets left right and centre, and a car hit him. So we tried it again, and he died early. So we tried it again, and he left the game not long after we'd started, so that's a fail. And then I tried to load it up again and recruit a new fourth guy, and my PS froze. We got Waingro'd like a motherfucker.

Sabu saw that spot and said, "Nah. Too contrived."

impress girls?

Some of you need to fucking learn how to edit fucking quote boxes

Hard to believe its been 20 years since Eazy died...

This game rules...

College Humor generally is pretty funny. There's a lot worse alleged "humor" sites out there. Cracked.com for instance...

I thought for a moment Cool Arrow was outing himself as being Dawn Marie (saw that as an "i" not a Roman numeral 1).

Let's be honest, as a board we buried Bryan during March Madness, people in glass houses.

Hulk's shirt is amazing!

Kudos to the Bellas from stepping up their game a lot this past year. They were utterly worthless for years. They had absolutely no idea what to do in or out of the ring and at times looked like they actively were sabotaging anything that could "harm" them in some fashion. The biggest example of this was the AJ Pipe Bombshell. That was a huge moment for the division and got a giant live reaction... and those two nitwits and garbage person Eva Marie were busy screaming over it. SAY IT TO MY FAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEE!!! Nikki's feud with Steph this year was fun but her acting in it was absolutely atrocious. But Brie plays a really good awful human being and Nikki did a good job being exasperated as her servant. That was a good turn. They've also gotten decent in the ring, too. I really wonder if someone sat them down and said, "Hey. You're on Total Divas. You're two of our most famous personalities now. You two also date/married all-time great wrestlers. Learn the craft and take this seriously because you'll make some money." I really love AJ. She was the only Diva forever who showed like she actually cared about what the hell she was doing. I loved the Bryan/Punk/Kane love quadrangle and thought she stole the show those few months. But out of the four at the WM match, she's probably now the worst in-ring since she doesn't have the athleticism the Bellas and Paige have. She's still very good at conveying emotion and an in-ring character, though. It's not a knock on AJ at all -- it's just a lot of others stepped up, and good on them.

I love how the other wrestler just casually gets out of his contrived position.

I'm with you guys on the Bliss love. I see the progression. She's definitely a few steps up from where she was when she first debuted. Eventually, it will all fall into place like it did for Charlotte.

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Great feud video for Taker/Wyatt, helped make it come across as a bigger deal. Briefly uses "The Man Comes Around" which I still hope is part of Taker's entrance. Always love a great memorable feud vid, this looks to be the best for this year's Mania.

BULL. This is honestly the biggest piece of selective memory I've seen on a wrestling board in some time. They've: - From the first day said he was nothing, pointed out that he has no charisma or mic skills and buried him with The Miz. - Called him a geek, nerd, troll and goat for months on end. - When he got hot, they tried to turn him heel and make him yell NO, instead of YES. They did this for months on end for no real reason. - They pushed him as the weak link in a team with KANE. - The whole Team Hell No storyline. Hugfests, seeing psychiatrists, getting in arguments at fast food restaurants then having Kane hunt him like he was Jason and have him run. - Despite having multiple matches with main eventers like Orton and others, they said he wasn't in their league. - They buried him for months against the Authority. DB got laid out and beaten down so many times that I thought I was watching reruns. - They tried to turn him heel again with the Wyatt Family for no reason whatsoever. - They've produced some of the worst merchandise ever for him. - They ruined two Royal Rumble's consecutively so he didn't win and did everything in their power to try to kill the heat. - They've ignored all of his popularity in his hometown and didn't even mention his various things with celebrities and the parade. - They have the easiest storyline ever in a face DB trying to get the belt back that he never lost against Brock and ignore it. They then have him lose to Big Daddy Cool Reigns and verbally suck him off. - They then strap him in a WM ladder match with other people they aren't pushing, don't want to push, will never push and don't know what to do with. Compare all this with way Roman Reigns has been booked in the last year and tell me he wasn't being buried. Bullshit. I've watched a lot of wrestling in my day and don't remember anyone else having to go through a fraction of what he's had to go through. You know the best part? He made almost all of it work, got more over no matter what crap they gave him and it's still not good enough!

Bray Wyatt needs to not wrestle. He needs to sit in his rocking chair and delegate. It needs to mean something when he gets up. And he needs to be destroying dudes when he gets up. Breaking up the Wyatt family was stupid. Get them back together, push the hell out of Rowan and Harper with Bray as the ace in the hole. And have Bray only wrestle on ppvs.

Owens needs to keep that spinning fisherman buster off the second rope as a superplex/frankensteiner counter because it was badass.

I thought the proper way to sell the Stunner was the Rock's bounce all over the ring sell of it

Okay, now I'm thinking Diesel pulls Vader to the ring on a rickshaw while Vader pantomimes shifting gears. Vince on commentary: "Whatta ride!!"

Am I a good parent? Well I happened to walk by my 5 year-old daughter's bedroom yesterday while she was playing with her toys, and she had one of her dolls beating up another one while she growled, "Cero miedo!" So obviously the answer is yes.